Originally posted by Zack MI really hope the dceu continues for years to come. Every cinematic universe needs a whipping boy competitorlikethe dceu.
Synder and his vision IS all but gone. From now on, I expect films that are more director driven, like what Jenkins delivered. And even some of Snyder's vision was still intact.I expect some good stuff from Wan and Sandberg. Those directors are basically starting from scratch, as was shown on Sandberg's tweet. Nothing of Snyder there.
Originally posted by InhumanGolgo didn't read the article. This is a pr nightmare for the dceu. Mit just keeps getting worse. First Martha now Mustachegate.
"The Question For 'Justice League' Isn't How Much Money It Will Make, But How Much It Could Lose"TLDR:
After it's all said and done , educated estimates indicate that it could either lose about 50 million or make 50 million profit total.
Box office forums have it all wrong as usual.
Originally posted by Inhuman
"The Question For 'Justice League' Isn't How Much Money It Will Make, But How Much It Could Lose"TLDR:
After it's all said and done , educated estimates indicate that it could either lose about 50 million or make 50 million profit total.
Box office forums have it all wrong as usual.
What does BO forums have wrong??
They're just estimating. We don't know how much JL will bring in merchandise or home video, let along WW box office.
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Originally posted by Zack M
What does BO forums have wrong??They're just estimating. We don't know how much JL will bring in merchandise or home video, let along WW box office.
You keep repeating this 600 million dollar number which means nothing.
You're failing to mention all the marketing costs and all the other costs like distribution (on top of the 300 million) that make it so Justice League has to make WAY more than just 600 million to make a profit.
Originally posted by Zack MYou don't know so quit acting as if you're a Warner executive. This is a huge disaster and stains the brand. This is beyond the worst case scenario after opening weekend. When Thor hands your team it's ass comparing opening weekends it's just a sad day for dceu fans. No other way to spin it. Just take it, *****.
What does BO forums have wrong??They're just estimating. We don't know how much JL will bring in merchandise or home video, let along WW box office.
Originally posted by Inhuman
You keep repeating this 600 million dollar number which means nothing.You're failing to mention all the marketing costs and all the other costs like distribution (on top of the 300 million) that make it so Justice League has to make WAY more than just 600 million to make a profit.
I didn't get that from BO forums, I got that from a Forbes article I posted earlier. I didn't say 600 would be enough, the article also added merchandise and other ways movies get profit, like home video sales. Just like the article you posted.
Originally posted by InhumanGolgo is upset that the dceu brand is stained so much by this now it isn't hey how much of a profit did this make to will this make a profit at all. It's become a risk now for them to make a high budgeted dceu film. They have greatly devalued the characters to the general public.
You keep repeating this 600 million dollar number which means nothing.You're failing to mention all the marketing costs and all the other costs like distribution (on top of the 300 million) that make it so Justice League has to make WAY more than just 600 million to make a profit.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Jonathan Kent's loyalty has always been to Clark above all else. Didn't you see how crazy obsessed he was in Smallville too?Them taking it a bit further in MoS doesn't invalidate the underlying message. The Kents want great things for Clark, but they've always been overprotective of him.
The idea and the execution were just more separate than they should have been.
He would never try to let others die simply to protect his son. Even the Smallville Pa Kent's actor had spoken about it right after MoS' airing.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
He would never try to let others die simply to protect his son. Even the Smallville Pa Kent's actor had spoken about it right after MoS' airing.
Pa Kent doesn't want innocents to die. Even in MoS, he doesn't want anyone to die. We're being shown that he's out of his depth, trying to raise a son with the powers of a demi-god. He says "maybe" because he doesn't have a definitive answer, and he's obviously not sure how to handle all of this.
I think people are confusing his uncertainty with a desire to see people get hurt.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Pa Kent doesn't want innocents to die. Even in MoS, he doesn't want anyone to die. We're being shown that he's out of his depth, trying to raise a son with the powers of a demi-god. He says "maybe" because he doesn't have a definitive answer, and he's obviously not sure how to handle all of this.I think people are confusing his uncertainty with a desire to see people get hurt.
He does, "maybe" is already very low when we are talking about a bus full of kids. There shouldn't be any question about WHAT to do in that kind of situation. Such a guy would never raise Kal El to be Superman.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
He does, "maybe" is already very low when we are talking about a bus full of kids. There shouldn't be any question about WHAT to do in that kind of situation. Such a guy would never raise Kal El to be Superman.
He reacts the way he does because he's afraid for his son. Even in that same scene, he's telling Clark that he's going to change the world.
Sure, the execution isn't great (which is part of MoS's largest issue imo), but the idea behind it is no different than Pa Kent in the comics or in Smallville: Clark comes first. Always.
Originally posted by -Pr-
He reacts the way he does because he's afraid for his son. Even in that same scene, he's telling Clark that he's going to change the world.Sure, the execution isn't great (which is part of MoS's largest issue imo), but the idea behind it is no different than Pa Kent in the comics or in Smallville: Clark comes first. Always.
What should someone like Pa Kent do? Swim there to save kids, cover for Clark and be happy about how did he use his power for. This is the guy who could make Kal El Superman.
Costner's acting already saved it a lot, otherwise it would have been heavily criticized. There is a huge difference between "Clark is more important than others" than "To protect Clark's power not being exposed, I could consider letting a bus of innocent kids die". That's something Lex Luthor would do.
Originally posted by Slowpoke
It's not an excuse to let a bus of kids to die simply because Clark's power might be exposed. Again ANYONE who think about something else when a bus of innocent kid's lives were in danger, should be considered as very very low on morality.What should someone like Pa Kent do? Swim there to save kids, cover for Clark and be happy about how did he use his power for. This is the guy who could make Kal El Superman.
Costner's acting already saved it a lot, otherwise it would have been heavily criticized. There is a huge difference between "Clark is more important than others" than "To protect Clark's power not being exposed, I could consider letting a bus of innocent kids die". That's something Lex Luthor would do.
TBH, I do so where you're coming from, I just think we have different interpretations of the scene, so I can't see us agreeing.
Either way, I wouldn't call it a great scene anyway.