Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Started by quanchi11294 pages

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Avada kedavra is small potatoes next to the master sword, so, no, it isn't.

You don't seem to realize Ganon is what Voldemort wants to be when he grows up. The things Voldemort attempted to do, Ganon succeeded at.

Horcruxes why? For immortality. Becoming unrivalled in power? Ganon achieved this, Voldemort did not.

No, it isn't. What character can you oneshot in the game with the master sword ? The avada kedavra is a one shot kill method. LOL.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They already defeated him. That's the point.
Before he had his piece of the triforce you nitwit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Before he had his piece of the triforce you nitwit.
When he got the outside amp they still defeated him. LOL. Even an amped Dorf is a loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was bound and chain like an s and m victim. Dorf then received an amp from an outside power source. Dorf still despite this was still defeated by means of a bfr.

You claim he was upgraded again but he was still defeated by a hero who lacked experience. Yes, I can. Titles are titles. You can pretend the sword is badass all you want because it killed the amped Dorf. I know the sword gave him no advantages over his enemies in the game. Link relied on Midna's aid, gear, and skill throughout his mega quest.

That's sacrificial love magic in a one on one duel so there goes that option. Secondly, when is it stalemated by magical attacks ? Thirdly, name the scene from the movie. This is the movie version.
When did this occur in the movie ?
You have been all over the map here and ignored the movies while citing something Dorf cannot replicate here. UIs his mother or a devout follower here to eat the curse ?

You cited other games whereas this is only the Tp version of Dorf. Secondly, Dorf can send his own reflected attacks in Zelda's body not someone elses. You seem extremely biased. You want to cite book showings, ignore context, and cite multiple zelda games. LOL.

One last time: He was defeated before he got the ToP... What on Earth does him being bfr'd have to do with his power or getting beaten?

His magical potency was increased, I didn't say anything about his physical body or weakness to the Master Sword. Right gonna look past most of that sentence cause it has nothing to do with your own point. You compared a guy with holy arrows/sword to a guy that throws magic around.. how is that a comparison? If Dorf gets stabbed by a magical holy sword that somehow means dark magic will beat him?

You're missing the point. It was deflected. It doesn't matter how or who, the fact is that the possibility is there and it can happen. That beam struggle with Harry and some other parts I read. Are you seriously going to ignore the official material and canon lore about the death curse cause you didnt see it in the movie? 😐 Even then theres scenes where the curse hits something and it only makes a very small explosion (GoF and OotP). The attacks Dorf deflects do the same thing.

They're all Ganondorf, especially the OoT on as that him with the same (well lower) level of power. And the TP example? He uses a sword to reflect the attacks. The same sword he uses to fight with in his body 🙂

And if he can dodge an arrow how will the curse hit him?

How did Ganon get the ToP? It just sort of appeared on the back of his hand?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When he got the outside amp they still defeated him. LOL. Even an amped Dorf is a loser.
Right, because Ganondorf at the weakest we've ever seen him on screen is 'amped'.

He wasn't at full power, had no idea what was going on at first, and got sucked through the mirror while he was surprised. Oh****. Wanna know what's interesting about that? It's of no use to Voldemort in this thread. Voldemort can't use the mirror, Ganondorf's not weakened or surprised, and non of Voldemort's spells are powerful enough to impact Ganondorf.

So, really, what's your point?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
How did Ganon get the ToP? It just sort of appeared on the back of his hand?
Twilight Princess takes place after OoT, but that flashback was to a time during OoT.

At the end of OoT Link goes back in time, warns Zelda and prevents the events of the future timeline from ever happening, but Ganondorf in the alternate timeline still touched the triforce.

When he did in that alternate timeline, Ganondorf recieved it in both timelines.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Right, because Ganondorf at the weakest we've ever seen him on screen is 'amped'.

He wasn't at full power, had no idea what was going on at first, and got sucked through the mirror while he was surprised. Oh****. Wanna know what's interesting about that? It's of no use to Voldemort in this thread. Voldemort can't use the mirror, Ganondorf's not weakened or surprised, and non of Voldemort's spells are powerful enough to impact Ganondorf.

So, really, what's your point?

The triforce of power is an outside power source which just amped him. Now you are still crying that an amped Dorf was easily defeated. LOL.

Yes, he did. He killed one and then was defeated. Dorf was too slow to react and was easily beaten. Voldemort can torture him with crucio or one shot him with avada kedavra.

The killing curse is better at killing than the shitty sword some inexperienced hero kills the retard Ganon with each time.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Twilight Princess takes place after OoT, but that flashback was to a time during OoT.

At the end of OoT Link goes back in time, warns Zelda and prevents the events of the future timeline from ever happening, but Ganondorf in the alternate timeline still touched the triforce.

When he did in that alternate timeline, Ganondorf recieved it in both timelines.

I probably shouldn't have asked.

The triforce of power is an outside power source which just amped him. Now you are still crying that an amped Dorf was easily defeated. LOL.
Congratulations, your ignorance is showing. The ToP is standard for Ganondorf, it's 'his' piece, you might as well call Mjolnir an outside amp for Thor.

Yes, he did. He killed one and then was defeated. Dorf was too slow to react and was easily beaten. Voldemort can torture him with crucio or one shot him with avada kedavra.

Prove that Voldemort's magic is powerful enough, burden of proof.

I've proven multiple times that Ganondorf has both magical and physical resistances that Voldemort cannot overcome. Castle destroying attacks do nothing to him and planetary level magic is required to put him down, what does Voldemort have in that range?

Provide something, or gtfo. I'm not replying until you bring something to the table worth discussing, it's a waste of time.

Originally posted by BloodRain
One last time: He was defeated before he got the ToP... What on Earth does him being bfr'd have to do with his power or getting beaten?
A bfr is a win on this forum. Did Dorf want to take a vaca ? No, that means he was beaten against his will.

His magical potency was increased, I didn't say anything about his physical body or weakness to the Master Sword. Right gonna look past most of that sentence cause it has nothing to do with your own point. You compared a guy with holy arrows/sword to a guy that throws magic around.. how is that a comparison? If Dorf gets stabbed by a magical holy sword that somehow means dark magic will beat him?[/B]
That's an amp then. His physical body never displayed immunity to anything. The power triforce amped him to survive and then failed him against the master sword.

Why wouldn't it ? The dark magic is intended to kill. Why is Dorf immune ? You can't just think words like holy or what not mean something here.


You're missing the point. It was deflected. It doesn't matter how or who, the fact is that the possibility is there and it can happen. That beam struggle with Harry and some other parts I read. Are you seriously going to ignore the official material and canon lore about the death curse cause you didnt see it in the movie? 😐 Even then theres scenes where the curse hits something and it only makes a very small explosion (GoF and OotP). The attacks Dorf deflects do the same thing.[/B]
It's his own magic and he's in another body. You can't provide one example of him in his own body blocking someone elses magic so you concede the point. The only time the beam was locked in was GOF and those were special circumstances outside Dorf's abilities.

Dorf never deflects anyone else's magic. When did Voldemort use the avada kedavra in OOTP ?


They're all Ganondorf, especially the OoT on as that him with the same (well lower) level of power. And the TP example? He uses a sword to reflect the attacks. The same sword he uses to fight with in his body 🙂

And if he can dodge an arrow how will the curse hit him? [/B]

Alternate timelines mean different versions with different memories. This is just the TP Dorf.

When does Dorf do so in his own body against foreign magic ?

When does he dodge an arrow in TP ? He didn't dodge Link's sword which is far slower than an arrow. He also didn't dodge the sages either. LOL.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Congratulations, your ignorance is showing. The ToP is standard for Ganondorf, it's 'his' piece, you might as well call Mjolnir an outside amp for Thor.

Prove that Voldemort's magic is powerful enough, burden of proof.

I've proven multiple times that Ganondorf has both magical and physical resistances that Voldemort cannot overcome. Castle destroying attacks do nothing to him and planetary level magic is required to put him down, what does Voldemort have in that range?

Provide something, or gtfo. I'm not replying until you bring something to the table worth discussing, it's a waste of time.

This Dorf used it as an amp. It clearly amped him. It didn't know him prior to so it's an amp for this version. he still lost right after he got it. Voldemort kills an amped Dorf. The funny thing is he didn't earn it. Thor's hammer was created for him and contains his own personal power. Read some comics. The triforce of power isn't Dorf's personal power.

We already know it's abilities. If you dispute it can't hurt him the burden is on you, jackass.

Destroying a castle has to do with durability and is entirely different than avada kedavra. It was also off screen and I believe Midna did so.

Says the guy who has been responding that it's suddenly a waste of time. You have to prove he can resist these attacks and quit going off on tangents that have nothing to do with this fight.

I already have proven as much.

It takes planetary magic to put Ganondorf down. Voldemort lacks planetary magic. Q.E.D.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I already have proven as much.

It takes planetary magic to put Ganondorf down. Voldemort lacks planetary magic. Q.E.D.

No, you haven't. It's like saying Professor Xavier can't take out the Hulk because he can destroy planets all the while acting like mental attacks are the same as physical ones. Avada Kedavra kills him. He will still have all of his precious ginger hair for the open casket funeral. You need to disprove it otherwise you concede.

It's like saying Professor Xavier can't take out the Hulk because he can destroy planets all the while acting like mental attacks are the same as physical ones.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

It takes planetary level magic to put Ganondorf down.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I already have proven as much.

It takes planetary magic to put Ganondorf down. Voldemort lacks planetary magic. Q.E.D.

The sword is magic.

Voldemort's magic is too weak to affect him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Reading comprehension is your friend.

It takes planetary level [b]magic to put Ganondorf down.

The sword is magic.

Voldemort's magic is too weak to affect him. [/B]

Magic can attack your physically, mentally, your soul, etc. You are just foolishly assuming all magic only attacks the durability of the flesh. The twilight sword can be parried by any knight with a sword and you call this planetary. When does it shatter other swords even ?

You need to prove it then.

The twilight sword? The **** are you even talking about? The Master Sword is the one that put Ganondorf down, lol.

And it's just a lot more powerful than Voldemort is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A bfr is a win on this forum. Did Dorf want to take a vaca ? No, that means he was beaten against his will.

But does it reflect on his abilities or in any way related to this thread? Because unless Tom brings out a bfr portal..

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's an amp then. His physical body never displayed immunity to anything. The power triforce amped him to survive and then failed him against the master sword.

Why wouldn't it ? The dark magic is intended to kill. Why is Dorf immune ? You can't just think words like holy or what not mean something here.


Upgrade, amp.. either way its a boost to his normal self and he didnt have it until much later.

I can when Dorf himself and others admit that its the holy power of the Master Sword thats his weakness. The Master Sword is the failsafe to the Triforce, kinda in the job description.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's his own magic and he's in another body. You can't provide one example of him in his own body blocking someone elses magic so you concede the point. The only time the beam was locked in was GOF and those were special circumstances outside Dorf's abilities.

Dorf never deflects anyone else's magic.

When does Dorf do so in his own body against foreign magic ?

Youre grasping at straws.

Was a magical attack deflected? Yes.

Was it him doing it? Technically yes as his body was literally inside/possessing her in his twilight form. Even if you dont want the feat here, him doing it in OoT proves he can do it with his own body.

Was it with the same weapon he's using in this match? Yes.

The Curse can be blocked with little to no damage, and despite special circumstances the Curse can be blocked by magic and reflected back at him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Voldemort use the avada kedavra in OOTP ?

In the bank fight scene I think, dunno googled that one. But I have seen the GoF one and its only does minor damage to a rock.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Alternate timelines mean different versions with different memories. This is just the TP Dorf.

Memories mean nothing if the body and powers are all equal. The only difference is when one version gets a special amp.

The OoT Link that fought Adult Link would have the /exact/ equal level of power to the TP one due to both having the same thing; the ToP.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When does he dodge an arrow in TP ? He didn't dodge Link's sword which is far slower than an arrow. He also didn't dodge the sages either. LOL.

The boss fight in both his beast form and his human form. He dodges arrows the second they're near him. Arrows > those magic beams.

Originally posted by BloodRain
But does it reflect on his abilities or in any way related to this thread? Because unless Tom brings out a bfr portal..
I never once said Tom defeats him in this manner but it does show how slow he is to react to attacks. He sat there as they did so.


Upgrade, amp.. either way its a boost to his normal self and he didnt have it until much later.

I can when Dorf himself and others admit that its the holy power of the Master Sword thats his weakness. The Master Sword is the failsafe to the Triforce, kinda in the job description.[/B]

I am glad you concede he is upgraded or amped.

I am also glad you admit the sword isn't really that powerful it's just anti Dorf. Link shows despite his lack of experience he can best dorf in a sword duel. That's just in Hyrule so Hyrule and Dorf specifically have no proven defenses against the killing curse.


Youre grasping at straws.

Was a magical attack deflected? Yes.

Was it him doing it? Technically yes as his body was literally inside/possessing her in his twilight form. Even if you dont want the feat here, him doing it in OoT proves he can do it with his own body.[/B]

No, I am not.

His own inside another body. The attack is also very slow. We are just using Tp versions only. Dorf didn't repel the sages magic when it was used against him.


Was it with the same weapon he's using in this match? Yes.

The Curse can be blocked with little to no damage, and despite special circumstances the Curse can be blocked by magic and reflected back at him.

In the bank fight scene I think, dunno googled that one. But I have seen the GoF one and its only does minor damage to a rock.[/B]

He reflects his own magic in another body which is coming at a very slow rate of speed at him.

Prove it then. You claim it can so provide the links.

You clearly don't know. That's the problem with you zelda fans you argue without even being somewhat familiar with his opponent.


Memories mean nothing if the body and powers are all equal. The only difference is when one version gets a special amp.

The OoT Link that fought Adult Link would have the /exact/ equal level of power to the TP one due to both having the same thing; the ToP.

The boss fight in both his beast form and his human form. He dodges arrows the second they're near him. Arrows > those magic beams. [/B]

Yes, they do. You'd have to prove they are equal and in character. If I see someone gunned down irl and dedicate my life to martial arts then I am not equal to me living a life as a monk. This is only due to this game. Quit trying to break the rules because you love Dorf.

That isn't canon iirc an if he decides to use beast form it will be worse since he has to transform leaving himself vulnerable and since Midna just overpowers him when he gets close.

Crucio and dorf is on his back in extreme pain.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The twilight sword? The **** are you even talking about? The Master Sword is the one that put Ganondorf down, lol.

And it's just a lot more powerful than Voldemort is.

I mistyped it after I have already called it the master sword many times. LOL. You need to prove it. The sword doesn't cut through other swords or oneshot killed anyone. So far the avada kedavra is winning.