What does that matter ? Dorf doesn't live in a world with pottermagic so acting like these attacks wouldn't work is fanboyish.He lives in a world with magic far more powerful than the magic of the potterverse.
They could not, with all of their power combined, overcome the triforce of power, which has fuelled such insane feats as turning off the sun while the bulk of Ganon's power was still sealed away.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNot in this game. LOL. In this game a sword killed him. One kill spell kills him. Someone like bellatrix could kill him.
He lives in a world with magic [b]far more powerful than the magic of the potterverse.They could not, with all of their power combined, overcome the triforce of power, which has fuelled such insane feats as turning off the sun while the bulk of Ganon's power was still sealed away. [/B]
I remember in oot when the game made it clear one dragon could dominate the land. Dragons are pets in HP. LOL at you.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNot at all. Sword of Gryffindor would destroy the weak blade.
A sword more powerful than the entirety of the potterverse combined, the Master Sword is as powerful as the completed triforce. It's also never confirmed that he's dead.
People can parry the thing in the game. LOL. That's one weak triforce.
The Master Sword is a incredibly powerful Holy Weapon. This is why Link could defeat Ganondorf. Ganondorf survived a sword through his chest before.
It is STATED that only Holy Weapons and his own Magics can harm him and ONLY with a Final blow from the Master Sword itself could he be defeated.
It is also STATED that Ganondorf is IMMORTAL. There are no Magic trinkets that keep him alive. Nothing for Voldemort to destroy in order to kill him. Ganondorf was even a Powerful Sorcerer BEFORE the Triforce of Power was put upon him.
Voldemort isnt Immortal. He extended his life by the use of Horcrux(probbaly spelled it wrong.). A couple of KIDS beat him, magic or no.
And the Sword of Griffindor? A weapon crafted by Wizards.
The Master Sword? Created by the GODS!
Comparing the Sword of Griffindor to the Master Sword is like Comparing Wood(SoG) to Steel(MS)! One is just stronger then the other. And if you deny this then LOL to you.
I do not say all this because I like Ganondorf. Infact As a Zelda fan it is in my head to destroy him. So I give you facts.
Ganondorf is Immortal Through and Through
Voldemort is not.
Only the most powerful of Holy Weapons can harm or defeat Ganondorf.
Voldemort is neither Holy or in possesion of a Holy Weapon.
Even if Ganondorf IS killed he is able to Reincarnate himself. (FACT! Look it up.)
Voldemort split his soul in order to maintain his life. Which means he has a limited number of times he can come back.
Link beat Ganondorf because Link HAS a Powerful Holy Object. Master Sword.
The Sword of Griffindor isnt HOLY at all.
You can keep preaching that Your Fanboy loved Voldemort would win but the FACTS are against you here.
Voldemort has no way to harm Ganondorf. Even if he could there is no way Voldemort could kill him.
Again, these are Facts. Do some Reasearch.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteDestroyed a Horcrux meanwhile Link's sword can't even give him an advantage against a mid level scrub in his own game. This isn't' the Soulreaver an impressive sword this is just the master sword. Even the name implies a lack of creativity.
Lol, that's a cute supposition, considering that it's survived centuries of use by and against characters well into the 100+ ton strength range without so much as a nick, and the sword of gryffindor's never done anything remotely impressive.
Originally posted by Scarlet FoxYes. Barely. The sword just cut off his source. While he is busy trying to surge back he is left vulnerable to an attack since he is just sitting there like a dope begging for more life.
The Master Sword is a incredibly powerful Holy Weapon. This is why Link could defeat Ganondorf. Ganondorf survived a sword through his chest before.
Meaningless words which have no bearing on outside the game fictional powers. These statements only apply to Zelda. If he came into the Potterverse he'd be dead in an instant. Much more powerful world.
It is STATED that only Holy Weapons and his own Magics can harm him and ONLY with a Final blow from the Master Sword itself could he be defeated. [/B]
No magical trinkets keep him alive ? The triforce of power. This is a fact. I mean please do some research. Voldemort formed his own horcruxes. He didn't just get his ass beat and luckily have the triforce of power save him from death. Thanks for downplaying Dorf. No, he wasn't. The guy was captured and executed. He did nothing impressive in the game prior to the amp we call the triforce of power.
It is also STATED that Ganondorf is IMMORTAL. There are no Magic trinkets that keep him alive. Nothing for Voldemort to destroy in order to kill him. Ganondorf was even a Powerful Sorcerer BEFORE the Triforce of Power was put upon him. [/B]
Voldemort was immortal until the Horcruxes were destroyed. Dorf was immortal until that mute kid with three weeks of experience killed him. You leave out a buttload of context. First Albus Dumbledore's involvement, years of planning, Snape's involvement, Harry's connection to Voldemort, and the aid from various individuals in destroying the Horcruxes. One scrawny 3 week experienced I get nervous around girls dork killed Dorf.
Voldemort isnt Immortal. He extended his life by the use of Horcrux(probbaly spelled it wrong.). A couple of KIDS beat him, magic or no. [/B]
Again, only a title. Those are pretty weak gods since mid level scrubs can parry the weapon. LOL.
And the Sword of Griffindor? A weapon crafted by Wizards.The Master Sword? Created by the GODS! [/B]
I agree if you switch around the master sword being wood to steel. Not even a contest. Play through the game it's Link's 3 weeks of awesome skill which kill his enemies.
Comparing the Sword of Griffindor to the Master Sword is like Comparing Wood(SoG) to Steel(MS)! One is just stronger then the other. And if you deny this then LOL to you.I do not say all this because I like Ganondorf. Infact As a Zelda fan it is in my head to destroy him. So I give you facts.
Ganondorf is Immortal Through and Through
Voldemort is not.
[/B]
You love the game and by association Dorf.
No, he isn't. Voldemort can simply kill Dorf himself though Dorf can never kill Voldemort due to the Horcruxes. LOL.
False. The master sword gives him no advantage through sheer power during the game. Voldemort doesn't need to be holy. By your logic the Beyonder can't kill Dorf if he chooses to be evil and is not holy. No limits fallacies aren't allowed.Only the most powerful of Holy Weapons can harm or defeat Ganondorf.
Voldemort is neither Holy or in possesion of a Holy Weapon.Even if Ganondorf IS killed he is able to Reincarnate himself. (FACT! Look it up.)
Voldemort split his soul in order to maintain his life. Which means he has a limited number of times he can come back. [/B]
Nope. He didn't do so in the game when 3 week experience Link 86'd him.
The objects need to be destroyed so he cannot come back. Dorf can't do so while Tom can kill him with one Avada Kedavra.
Hyperbole and no limits fallacy. Not allowed.
Link beat Ganondorf because Link HAS a Powerful Holy Object. Master Sword.
The Sword of Griffindor isnt HOLY at all.You can keep preaching that Your Fanboy loved Voldemort would win but the FACTS are against you here.
Voldemort has no way to harm Ganondorf. Even if he could there is no way Voldemort could kill him.
Again, these are Facts. Do some Reasearch. [/B]
SOG is more powerful so Dorf dies. Dorf dies a lot. LOL.
You don't even know the facts.
Prove Dorf can resist the killing curse. You cannot. LOL. It kills you. Fact.
Please learn something before you post again.
If he came into the Potterverse he'd be dead in an instant.
What's he die of, laughter?
Meaningless wordsCanon words.
No magical trinkets keep him alive ? The triforce of power.This is not a trinket. This is an artifact of godly power which he manipulated and fought his way into attaining, which transcends time. 🙂
Again, only a title.
By your logic the Beyonder can't kill Dorf if he chooses to be evil and is not holy.
Those are pretty weak gods since mid level scrubs can parry the weapon.Gameplay mechanics.
pretty weak godsThey only created the universe. shrug
Prove Dorf can resist the killing curse.The killing curse is not powerful enough to overcome the Triforce of Power, hence it cannot kill Dorf.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Bfring him is defeating him. Dorf was more powerful than they were so to fight him power versus power is stupid. They used whatever means they had and kicked Dorf out of Hyrule. The debaters from the video game versus forum are in the stone ages compared to comic versus debaters. You say they posed no real threat with a straight face after we see them battle field remove him against his will. All you are proving is how stupid Dorf can be in combat. He lost because he was too stupid to realize that they did have the means to defeat him.
The sword causes no more damage than a regular sword it just cuts off Dorf's ability to resist the fatal wound. It shows how shitty of a warrior he is. Link didn't trick him he beat his ass. Link became a warrior a few weeks prior to in all likelihood.
It's a plot device. Hell, in Hpotter Dorf could never find all of Voldemort's horcruxes or destroy him anyways. HPotter magic doesn't exist in Hyrule. Hyrule lacks the leadership, power, organization, and man power of the Potterverse. The races also seem far greater. Hyrule usually has one dragon at a time whereas dragons are chained up by the wizards due to their outright dominance over all else.
It does, its been proven below. Hypothetical: Link vs Tom in a swordfight, who would win? Obviously Link would, making Tom by your standards a 'shitty warrior'. Now, what priority does this have in this thread? Mage skills =/= warrior skills =/= archer skills =/= healer skills.
Again, talking about whats needed to truly kill Tom or what the wizards do has nothing to do with anything I mentioned in this part of the post. But I will say that Horcruxes can't protect him from losing as if for instance Dorf stabbed him,he would be floating around as a spirit waiting for someone to resurrect him again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Tom threw the avada kedavra at Harry more than once. The guy does go for the kill and quite often. We also see him kill his own men with an avada kedavra. We also see him kill in Harry's mind with Avada Kedavara's left and right. I have rarely seen a villain hold back less than Voldemort. Tom also tries to kill Dumbledore multiple times during their duel. Unlucky for Dorf the same circumstances which kept harry alive won't be available for Dorf here.
Now don't get me wrong, there are times where Tom flat out AKs people without a thought, but same goes for Dorf. Both characters have gone straight on the offensive, both characters have paused before doing anything. Meaning theres no reason to assume that Tom would fair any differently when he too isnt on auto-kill 24/7.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dorf wouldn't use this manner of attack in his own body in the first place. LOL. Moot point.
We need to see Dorf do so in his own body. I keep hearing about all this magical resistance so doesn't it make sense he wouldn't even feel the need to defend himself when he's in a much more powerful/durable body.
It can happen once or a million times, even if there are circumstances, the fact is it can be done.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Potter magic can do so but we never see a sword do so. The Gryffindor sword shows it's very powerful yet I don't see anyone reflect magic in the same manner. Speculation.
I have seen it in combat. I am not saying it is a weak blade but that overall it doesn't give him any advantage in combat than a great blade normally does. The only advantage is it lets Link cut off Dorf's access to the power triforce when it strikes him fatal.
So ? Enemies can still parry his attacks. Link needs his skill to defeat his foe with the proper tool for Dorf to separate his access to his amp. That's it.
I didn't mean to imply it was a weak blade but not one that changes the overall playing field until you get to Dorf. Even then it doesn't but it gives you the opportunity to kill him.
You asked for extra abilities Link gains from it in combat, I gave you some.
Yeah, it does. Besides dealing more damage with each blessing, and dealing more damage when the blade is charged with lifeforce?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You people are light years behind. Caveman level. It's like someone saying Odin from marvel comics is really omnipotent despite us knowing it's hyperbole.
It's hyperbole. There are varying degrees of power and the word evil doesn't mean Link can kill a guy capable of destroying a galaxy. Hyperbole.
"You cannot defeat me with a blade that does not sparkle with the power to repel evil! What you hold is useless" ~That statement was said by Ganondorf himself. And when "Link, I have fully restored the power to repel evil to your Master Sword" happens Ganondorf starts taking damage from it. Thats Ganondorf and a Sage confirming this power, with it then harming Dorf further proof to this.
"The Master Sword is a sacred blade that evil can never touch. Evil cloaks you like a dark veil... and that blade is the only thing that can cleave it." ~Statement said by Midna, and once Link gets the MS this statement is proven to be true. Not only that but Midna is repelled just by being near the glowing MS.
So no, its not hyperbole as its been proven. And please, get off that "you say its more effective on evil means youre saying it can destroy universal level evil with a single touch" train of thought. I'm saying, just like the game states and proves, that the MS repels and is more effective on evil beings/magic. Not making any and every evil thing explode, just the blade being more effective then it normally is when attacking them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't relevant to the movies version. This is only relevant to the book version. You keep arguing because you are a fanboy. You know the movie differed and was just based off the books.
Link showed he was superior skill wise to Dorf with a sword. It shows us little experience is required to take down Dorf. Doesn't this happen every time he shows up ? A link comes out of nowhere and destroys him.
Yeah thats great buddy, still absolutely nothing to do with the a fight outside a swordfight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Doesn't matter as only this game is allowed in this thread. Drop it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The boots are required for him to be able to stand up to these characters. I always said Link has superhuman strength. many do in all areas of fiction.
Originally posted by quanchi112
[size=1]I gave you canon scenes of him being hit by arrows. You ignore them. You also cling to gameplay which forces the player to beat him in a sword fight. So you can't have it both ways. Move on the horse. He can easily move his body or block them with a sword. He doesn't.
I never said he couldn't but a beast ganon is a different body which is more athletic. It's like comparing agility of a beast to a man. The animal body obviously has the advantage. Then man up and accept the challenge.
So Dorf can dodge arrows? Also Beast Ganon shows no speed advantage and shows no change in reactions besides being wilder, two things that keep his reactions the same or lower them as a beast.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They were wrecking the scenery around them easily. So what if the bell didn't get destroyed. Letting an old man overpower you in a wrestling match with boots on <<<<< a Giant not destroying a super huge bell. They outnumber them with monsters and their were hundreds of wizards. For anyone to argue Zelda wins needs to have their head examined.
No, they don't. The wizards can always protect themselves with their magic anyways. To say their reactions are human despite seeing them fly around and make split second decisions in combat is living in a fantasy world. A special weapon was needed to kill the Basilisk. The Golems were powerful, obviously.
Spit second decisions? When a humans reaction time is 0.2 seconds.. aka a split second decision? Cept that they arent constantly defending from everything, as the movie proves, especially in the mass battle scenes.
Really? I thought it was the sword shoved through its skull.. The sword only had an unknown charm before stabbing it, nothing to say how strong it is or compare to.
And I love this: Golems being able to bring down Giants means they are 'obviously powerful'.. but when Bo can wrestle with Gorons it means Gorons are obviously weak. Nice.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Potter verse has them in numbers, intelligence, abilities, raw power, versatility, more powerful monsters, and a dark wizard who cannot die unless all his Horcruxes are destroyed. Imagine how formidable the Hyrule army would be if it was an army of wizards. Hell, a few of them from Hyrule beat Dorf with the triforce of power.
Potterverse is on another level.
Ganondorf laughs at Voldermort's magic and then punches his face in. /thread
Ganondorf is the Ultimate embodiment of Evil and Hate. He IS Evil and Hate. And since your little tickle of a death spell is based on Hate, since you have to mean it and WANT the person dead, not to mention the Killing curse is Dark Magic, I still stand by that this 'Curse' wont kill him since only Holy weapons/Spells can.
And if you still spew out that I have no proof that it wont kill him, you have no proof that it would. My facts are true and reasonable. Your facts are just... Just.
You can continue to cry about Voldemort losing this Vs Match and continue to ***** that Voldemort wins but truth is he wont.
Everyone here says Ganondorf wins this. You being the hardcore tightass Fanboy, you cant get past that.
If you put Ganondorf up against someone I can seriously see him losing to I willbe the first to admit it, but its NOT Voldemort.
So go ahead and Cry Hard about that fact. Nurse on your thumb a bit. Get some vague reasonings in your head. And then post it here just so we can all Laugh and point.
And when you say a FACT of Ganondorf isnt 'Allowed' in your little thread then you are gimping Ganondorf in order to win something you know Voldemort would lose to.
Just FYI I wasnt even this adamant about the McClane threads cause honestly I got both sides. I could see how McClane would lose or have a hard time. Which is why I didnt post much, but THIS THREAD is one where it is obvious that Ganondorf wins and you are just Voldemorts ***** trying to make him look good.
Go back to the drawing board on this one cause there is no way Voldemort wins. I have given Facts of his feats. You have given facts of Voldemorts. I have seen the movies and read the books. I have played the game and more. I even looked up stuff on Ganondorf because for a split second I thought I might of been wrong. Guess what? I wasnt.
Ganondorf IS Immortal.
Ganondorf can only be harmed by Holy magic/weapons or his own magic cast back at him.
IF Ganondorf is killed he can be revived or he can Resurect.
Voldemort has the Horcrux but only 7. He is Immortal as long as he has them, like you said. But when he dies he uses one up in order to come back! They are peices of his Soul and when he uses one to return he is using that peice of his soul. When he comes back with it, that one is gone. Ganondorf doesnt have that.
So go cry to your Voldemort blow up doll and ask yourself why you cant win this. Cause you cant.
As far as 'HP World is stronger' Show me proof. Show me a document between the creater of HP and Zelda that says HP world is stronger magic. Because if you cant it is all in your little mind that HP world is stronger, not to say that Zelda is stronger mind you.
Originally posted by Robtard
Ganondorf laughs at Voldermort's magic and then punches his face in. /thread
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThe guy who won 1 of 4 confrontations is going to laugh ? That's pretty stupid on his part but it's Dorf so whatevs.
What's he die of, laughter?
Canon words.This is not a trinket. This is an artifact of godly power which he manipulated and fought his way into attaining, which transcends time. 🙂
Because holding an entire country, probably an entire planet, in permanent time stop, while in a weakened state, is the sign of a weak artifact?
Strawman fallacy.
Gameplay mechanics.
They only created the universe. shrug
The killing curse is not powerful enough to overcome the Triforce of Power, hence it cannot kill Dorf.
Hyperbole just like when Odin is stated as omnipotent in the comics.
Trinket/artifact, etc. it's something else keeping him alive possessing magical power. The difference is Voldemort created his own means while Dorf just lucked his way into his. Dorf loses every time. I agree.
Weaker world. Obviously.
So you choose to argue for it only now and again. Then my point is proven.
That's how it's portrayed. I have seen Kain one shot kill his enemies when his reaver is upgraded. Not so with Link so you can't argue gameplay mechanics. His skill is rammed down our throat not his badass sword. he needs the skill to pull it off.
Weak universe. Obviously.
Based off what ? A sword did so. No attack killed him immediately and saying it won't overcome it when it's a different attack entirely is fanboyism at it's finest.
Originally posted by BloodRainI said they beat him. He was defeated despite being far more powerful. Being more powerful doesn't mean you are more formidable. this is just another example.
Admitting they didnt beat him and his power in combat, good, thats all I ask as thats the only relevant thing here. Just as with Tom losing to Harry, Dorf's 'defeat' was circumstantial. And you seem to be missing the point again, as its not what we know, its what Dorf knew. Dorf knows that the sages are not combat beings, he knows he can one-shot them, he can see them shaking in fear and all the while pulling a sword from his chest and coming to terms with him suddenly getting the ToP.. what he didnt know was that the sages had this trick up their sleeves. So no, to Dorf and anyone else in his shoes the sages were just the weak executioners.It does, its been proven below. Hypothetical: Link vs Tom in a swordfight, who would win? Obviously Link would, making Tom by your standards a 'shitty warrior'. Now, what priority does this have in this thread? Mage skills =/= warrior skills =/= archer skills =/= healer skills.
Completely different. Voldemort didn't lose in a contest of skill to Potter whereas Link bested him due to his skill. Dorf's sword wasn't tampered with nor did Link have a piece of Dorf's soul in him thus keeping him alive.
So you admit Dorf underestimates his foes. Good enough for me. He still lost.
Dorf uses a sword whereas Tom doesn't. I am not asking who is better with a wand Voldemort or Link I am saying with both combatants going at each other Link proved to be more skilled than Dorf despite the overwhelming experience edge in Dorf's favor. Si the conclusion I come to is this. If someone with a few weeks training can best Dorf in something he is familiar with then what will happen when the more experienced most badass wizard in a world of fictional wizards squares off against him. The competition is much greater there than in Hyrule so it's an easy conclusion to reach.
I agree I was just comparing their fictional cocks so to speak. In a pissing contest Tom still wins but for the purpsoes of these threads both can be killed.Again, talking about whats needed to truly kill Tom or what the wizards do has nothing to do with anything I mentioned in this part of the post. But I will say that Horcruxes can't protect him from losing as if for instance Dorf stabbed him,he would be floating around as a spirit waiting for someone to resurrect him again.[/B]
She was completely at his mercy. Tom also imo wanted to test Snape's loyalties and see how he reacted to this.
When he wasnt talking to him, yes.
Charity Burbage: lets her talk before killing her, a pause.
Gregorovitch; lets him beg, pauses before killing him.
GoF: Tom is resurrected, 'wakes up', talks to henchmen, calls henchmen, talks to henchmen, plays with corpes.. then finally approaches Harry when he has so much time to kill him, and he was bound. Then he talks to Harry, fingers him, releases hims and challenges him to a fight, then he plays with him by making him bow, plays with him by pushing him down, plays with him by using the pain curse, talks to Harry, deflects his attack and talks more while Harry's defenceless on the ground, picks him up and turns his back on Harry giving him to time to flee.. /then/ he attempts to kill Harry only 6 mins later.
OotP: Tom stands right behind Harry and speaks to him, disarms him and stands there.. then Albus shows up.
The the scene where he's standing over Harry or sees' him in the woods and just stares at him for a while.[/B]
Tom was just rezzed and once he got to Harry and the duel began. He threw the avada kedavra immediately. No one in the films throws the curse more or even half as much as Voldemort. He also had limited screen time.
I am not arguing soon as the bell rings he throws the killing curse but it is a possibility given how often/quickly he's done so.
I don't think Dorf would hold back either but I don't see him possessing anything in his arsenal as dangerous as the killing curse.
Now don't get me wrong, there are times where Tom flat out AKs people without a thought, but same goes for Dorf. Both characters have gone straight on the offensive, both characters have paused before doing anything. Meaning theres no reason to assume that Tom would fair any differently when he too isnt on auto-kill 24/7.The only time I saw the avada kedavra met was due to special circumstances not available to Dorf here. One time in GOF.
We've never seen Dorf do so here so you are just speculating again. It's going to hit him and hurt him.
No, we don't. We see Dorfs actions/thoughts/mind-set/character choose to reflect it. We know Dorf is physically capable of doing so. Physically able and in-character are two things you asked for and now that they're here youre asking for more specifics, even after admitting he can do so.It can happen once or a million times, even if there are circumstances, the fact is it can be done.[/B]
We don't know if he can reflect the killing curse. You assume he can but there's nothing to suggest he can. The only attack he repels is his one specific bolt which Link also can reflect. I also said it isn't in character in his own body to even try doing so since we don't have one single example of him doing so.
They have been reflected due to Harry Potter magic. Dorf doesn't have access to Harry Potter magic so the only conclusion you can reach is speculative at best. Yes, it can destroy horcruxes because it's powerful enough but not reflect the killing curse.
Thats the thing.. not only is Dorf able to reflect magic attacks, HP spells have also been reflected in-verse, and they don't need a sword to do so because Dorf's sword can. Godric's Sword had an unknown charm to it and was able to destroy Horcruxes from the Basilisk vemon.. no repelling or other magical properties.You asked for extra abilities Link gains from it in combat, I gave you some.
Yeah, it does. Besides dealing more damage with each blessing, and dealing more damage when the blade is charged with lifeforce?
Do you even know what hyperbole is? You do? Good. Now what happens when you take a statement and evidence to support the statement? It becomes fact.[/B]
The one extra ability leaves him wide open to a death blow.
This tactic leaves him vulnerable. Not very wise against someone who specializes in mid range combat.
No, this is still hyperbole. You are not understanding me. His statement only applies to Zeldaverse it doesn't apply to Potterverse. So in his own game nothing can defeat the top save the master sword, right ?"You cannot defeat me with a blade that does not sparkle with the power to repel evil! What you hold is useless" ~That statement was said by Ganondorf himself. And when "Link, I have fully restored the power to repel evil to your Master Sword" happens Ganondorf starts taking damage from it. Thats Ganondorf and a Sage confirming this power, with it then harming Dorf further proof to this.
"The Master Sword is a sacred blade that evil can never touch. Evil cloaks you like a dark veil... and that blade is the only thing that can cleave it." ~Statement said by Midna, and once Link gets the MS this statement is proven to be true. Not only that but Midna is repelled just by being near the glowing MS.
So no, its not hyperbole as its been proven. And please, get off that "you say its more effective on evil means youre saying it can destroy universal level evil with a single touch" train of thought. I'm saying, just like the game states and proves, that the MS repels and is more effective on evil beings/magic. Not making any and every evil thing explode, just the blade being more effective then it normally is when attacking them.
Canon >
You disagreeing with canon lore is your own issue.Yeah thats great buddy, still absolutely nothing to do with the a fight outside a swordfight. [/B]
Something is either powerful enough or not. This is but that doesn't prove a thing when we start talking about other fictional universes.
The blade might deal out more damage but the wielder still needs to be experienced enough to do so.
The books aren't canon to the movies. The movies are canon to the books. They contradict each other and are not the same.
It has to do with the skill level of Dorf and his overall competency.
Originally posted by BloodRainI am only using this Dorf. We see this Dorf from the moment he gains favor from the top and then we see his return back to Hyrule. We then see him die. LOL.
Y'know I dont think I will. I think I'd rather go by your own OP, "versus just this specific version of Ganondorf" by using the specific Ganondorf from TP which is the same guy in the Child timeline. You even wrote it out yourself.Thats nice and all, but I wasnt asking about how he 'stands up' to them now was I? I mean, you saw what Ive asked for right? You're still talking about horizontal strength, Im talking about vertical strength. Please reply to what Im talking about.
Now youre failing to understand the word ignore.. shame. How is an arrow shot at his back the same as one shot from the front? How can Dorf make his horse dodge an arrow? Unless you think he's going to react to an arrow that he cant see, and instantly make a non-arrow speed/reaction animal dodge the shot or somehow be able to turn around on the horse to slash the arrow and spin back..? Key word being 'behind him'.
Me? Who was it that was convinced that Link gets hurt by weak monsters because 'it happens in gameplay'?
I am replying to the complete picture here. He requires them as did Bo. Neither were superhuman studs separating themselves from the pack.
Being on a horse gives him an advantage. You can't have it both ways. If you really want to cling to the part of the game where arrows are not allowed to be used due to the game forcing you to swordfight him then you're dishonest. You know you are. Either way arrows hit him; canon.
Link isn't immune to weaker monsters. That's the point. Not that it has to happen but if it does then he obviously feels pain and can die.
So a four legged beast shows no advantage over a two legged dorf ? See what I mean. It's just blatant dishonesty at this point. If you can't see the difference in real life or the manner in which beast dorf moves as being far more athletic and faster then I can't help you. If you are going to lie to me and yourself there is nothing I can do.
They knocked it over like it was nothing. We see someone with far less size and power best them with boots on. That's an actual peer comparison and they fail. Giants are on another level. Link couldn't outwrestle or overpower the Giants with his boots on.
So Dorf can dodge arrows? Also Beast Ganon shows no speed advantage and shows no change in reactions besides being wilder, two things that keep his reactions the same or lower them as a beast.
Yeah and did you see the damage? The best thing I saw was knocking over a few tons of rock.. doesn't compete with Gorons strength feats. Friendly wrestling <<< killing-level attacks, you should know that. Plus glass cannons.Spit second decisions? When a humans reaction time is 0.2 seconds.. aka a split second decision? Cept that they arent constantly defending from everything, as the movie proves, especially in the mass battle scenes.
Really? I thought it was the sword shoved through its skull.. The sword only had an unknown charm before stabbing it, nothing to say how strong it is or compare to.And I love this: Golems being able to bring down Giants means they are 'obviously powerful'.. but when Bo can wrestle with Gorons it means Gorons are obviously weak. Nice.
No its just the numbers, plus glass cannons. The wizards have human bodies, the majority of the monsters are as tough as their animal counterparts = glass canons. [/B]
If you can't touch the glass you can't break it. They also have one shot kill methods which have nothing to do with overall durability.
The Golems are stabbing and using weapons not locking hands and seeing who is stronger. It's like me overpowering a 7 year old. Sure, I can do that all day but if he gets a knife it's going to cut into my flesh easily. You sound as if you can't comprehend the difference here.
What monsters are weak ? They all seem far more powerful than Zelda monsters. In oot one dragon could dominate the entire world. In Pottersville they are pets.
Originally posted by RobtardWrong Dorf. Horrible logic. Incorrect. Voldemort can win with one killing curse.
Ganondorf laughs at Voldermort's magic and then punches his face in. /thread
Originally posted by Scarlet FoxThat's applying a no limits fallacy. Something is generally usually either specifically designed for weakness exploitation or powerful enough to do so. You have zero evidence to stand on.
Ganondorf is the Ultimate embodiment of Evil and Hate. He IS Evil and Hate. And since your little tickle of a death spell is based on Hate, since you have to mean it and WANT the person dead, not to mention the Killing curse is Dark Magic, I still stand by that this 'Curse' wont kill him since only Holy weapons/Spells can.And if you still spew out that I have no proof that it wont kill him, you have no proof that it would. My facts are true and reasonable. Your facts are just... Just.
You can continue to cry about Voldemort losing this Vs Match and continue to ***** that Voldemort wins but truth is he wont.
Everyone here says Ganondorf wins this. You being the hardcore tightass Fanboy, you cant get past that.
If you put Ganondorf up against someone I can seriously see him losing to I willbe the first to admit it, but its NOT Voldemort.
So go ahead and Cry Hard about that fact. Nurse on your thumb a bit. Get some vague reasonings in your head. And then post it here just so we can all Laugh and point.
And when you say a FACT of Ganondorf isnt 'Allowed' in your little thread then you are gimping Ganondorf in order to win something you know Voldemort would lose to.
Just FYI I wasnt even this adamant about the McClane threads cause honestly I got both sides. I could see how McClane would lose or have a hard time. Which is why I didnt post much, but THIS THREAD is one where it is obvious that Ganondorf wins and you are just Voldemorts ***** trying to make him look good.
Go back to the drawing board on this one cause there is no way Voldemort wins. I have given Facts of his feats. You have given facts of Voldemorts. I have seen the movies and read the books. I have played the game and more. I even looked up stuff on Ganondorf because for a split second I thought I might of been wrong. Guess what? I wasnt.
Ganondorf IS Immortal.
Ganondorf can only be harmed by Holy magic/weapons or his own magic cast back at him.
IF Ganondorf is killed he can be revived or he can Resurect.Voldemort has the Horcrux but only 7. He is Immortal as long as he has them, like you said. But when he dies he uses one up in order to come back! They are peices of his Soul and when he uses one to return he is using that peice of his soul. When he comes back with it, that one is gone. Ganondorf doesnt have that.
So go cry to your Voldemort blow up doll and ask yourself why you cant win this. Cause you cant.
As far as 'HP World is stronger' Show me proof. Show me a document between the creater of HP and Zelda that says HP world is stronger magic. Because if you cant it is all in your little mind that HP world is stronger, not to say that Zelda is stronger mind you.
The killing curse does what it does in the films unless you can disprove it. You can't just say it doesn't do what it's done on film.
I am not crying I am debating. You aren't thinking and are angry about something.
It's a small number of people. I have seen people in other forums argue for Voldemort other than myself. If I was the only person on the planet then maybe you'd have a point.
Most of your post is you being emotional. 🙂
I am not gimping anyone. Most on here already say he wins so you are arguing you want him to win harder iyo. LOL. I am not allowing book version just movie. He didn't have a lot of time on the screen either.
You just said I gimped a character and now admitted he wins hard. You are making a fool of yourself. It's almost as bad as when you said these aren't foreign films and just wanted to take a shot at me, toots.
Dorf died. In the game he died. Saying he can't be killed by anyone is a no limits fallacy and a ridiculous one since we see him die. So how your stance is only good weapons or characters can hurt him. Your logic is so biased it's a joke.
If a evil being can create a universe they can't harm him because he's the ultimate embodiment of evil, etc. LOL.
Watch the films.
