Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Originally posted by quanchi112
They had already tied him up and tried to kill him. His inability to do anything past his first attack is the reason they banished him. Dorf was one of the shittiest end guys since he got beat three times in one game. Tom gets the victory due to his quicker reflexes, magical power, and killing curse.

You can't attach a no limits fallacy to this sword. Only a zelda fan would say something so blatantly fanboyish like this. This is what makes me pity the entire Zelda brigade. It is statements like these which make me feel sorry for you.

Dorf was humiliated by being their prisoner. Even more so after the triforce of power favored him and he was still beaten despite the mega amp.

Then please quit conceding to me.

Miscommunication. I don't mean that a single touch will instantly destroy anything evil, but it is more effective on them.

I take it you can show me how he was captured? Please do. And come now, youre going to chalk up his loss when the Master Sword was made to defeat someone in his position?

Find me the quote where I say "I concede to your argument" on anything I'm not admitting to :T

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dorf was already beaten without the sword. The sword just resisted the triforce's attempts to bring him back or resist death which only worked once anyway. Just anti magic to evil and power. No big deal and this type of thing occurs in fiction all the time.

I never said it did. Summoning the portal shows Dorf's slow reaction time during a conflict. Voldemort would have ample time to send a lot of powerful attacks his way or the killing curse which would end him in a blast.

Alright, sharing time again. Tom's standing there and a wall in front of him lights up. At what part does his reactions allow him to know that a portal is forming behind him? At what point does he choose to kill all of the sages instantaneously when they're not attacking him and are shaking in fear?.. Actually no, we know he would do the same thing Dorf did. HPGoF, resurrection scene, Tom talks to Harry, plays with Harry and then finally goes to kill Harry. OotP (or somewhere with the white floor) when Tom beats Harry he simply stands over him talking, and before he finishes him off he gets distracted. Tom's not always in 'auto kill all' mode either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think we can leave this be since you agree he's far weaker without the mega amp the triforce gives him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different versions of Dorf with different histories so no it's not in character for this Dorf making your comments irrelevant.

I said he can with his own easily reflectable magic but not all magic. It's on you to prove it but like I said it isn't in character anyway while he is in his own body. He only does so while possessing Zelda.

If a solid beam hits the other solid beam of energy then yes. This isn't an example of avada kedavra save the special circumstances in GOF which are irrelevant to Dorf. You need proof of it or him doing so in his own body. You don't have any proof thus you have no choice but to concede.

..now prove its easily reflectable magic when it explodes on contact with anything else. Prove its only Zelda's body that can do this when Dorf has everything Zelda has and more.. same sword, physically stronger, greater magical potency, far better control of powers.. Provide some reasons for you claims for once instead of just giving the most basic, weak answers of 'nah, don't count'. I even asked you for your solid reasoning before.

So it 'can' be deflected? All I needed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you don't have any proof Link's sword is special and can block magic but you just say so because well you are a fanboy. It's the master sword(planetary magic, insert other ridiculous hyperbole).

We aren't arguing the books here so again quit bringing up this sort of material because it is irrelevant. It won't kill the sword but it will damage it even by your own logic you agree.

Of course, cause the real canon would weaken your side right? Prove it can damage the sword then, don't just give your opinion on the matter. I know for a fact that it wont seeing as it bounces of statues.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the books he is gay but you have no proof the directors even covered this or gave it serious thought. The movies and books aren't all the same. So you'd need to prove it. It is something the movies didn't address but the books did. That's all.

No, his lack of experience and his lack of power also make this embarrassing for Dorf. Dorf has the most powerful plot device backing him in this game yet Link beats him with a weapon which can kill him. The weapon doesn't make Link able to that's his skill and what not. Link just beats him and Dorf can't resist death like he normally does. It shows how weak Dorf is despite all the triforce of power does for him.

Just had to read through the fan-hate to get to the relevant part. "It shows how weak Dorf is despite all the triforce of power does for him" Yes Im sure it shows he's weak when he and the ToP lose to the one weapon that was made to defeat someone like him with the Triforce.. Its like you don't read. Thats like saying a vampire is weak for losing to fire. Of course they're going to lose to their weaknesses.

And even if you were right here, it still has nothing to do with this fight unless you want to give Tom the Master Sword.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, in Hp the characters are far greater than the characters in Zelda. The wizards and the various creatures are far more impressive and intelligent than the characters from Zelda.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I won't read the OOT Link due to not beating it despite being at the end. Don't ruin this for me and drop all references to OOT. Link can't overpower them without having them on.

It just shows you can't hit him with an arrow and have to fight him with your sword. That's it. Only a fanboy would try to make something out of this.

Urm, yeah he can. You fight Gorons on death mountain without the boots, just the sword. You should know this if you've played the game.

"you can't hit him with an arrow" yeah that was kinda my point, but thanks for saying it again? Anyhow seeing as set animations that always happen > taking damage in gameplay, if you want to ignore the arrows then there goes that 'anyone can hurt Link' argument. Just like in WW, and just like in the Ganon fight right before, Ganondorf can dodge arrows.

Face it, your made HP stronger by ignoring things in the books like how AK fails on inanimate objects, then you gimp TP by ignoring its history and lore and then throwing your personal 'portrayals' around which funnily enough only effect your oppositions side. Why is it you think the HP verse is superior to the TP verse when you strengthen the formers side and limit the latter?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Now who ever said the sages tied him up? The sages are there to execute him, not do battle with him. So its because of a decisional choice not to engage defenceless, passive acting beings which means nothing.

Miscommunication. I don't mean that a single touch will instantly destroy anything evil, but it is more effective on them.

I take it you can show me how he was captured? Please do. And come now, youre going to chalk up his loss when the Master Sword was made to defeat someone in his position?

Find me the quote where I say "I concede to your argument" on anything I'm not admitting to :T

It kills them but doesn't power up Link in any way. It just allows him to kill Dorf. It's a plot device which has been done to death in fiction. In other areas of fiction the plot device makes the user more formidable but not in this game.

I don't need to show them capturing him since they defeated him before our eyes with the triforce of power favoring soulless ginger. Link needed aid and the skill to do so. Dorf lost due to being outfought in a sword battle. That's what ultimately lost him his life.

Soo you agree that it does repel evil powers? [/B]

Alright, sharing time again. Tom's standing there and a wall in front of him lights up. At what part does his reactions allow him to know that a portal is forming behind him? At what point does he choose to kill all of the sages instantaneously when they're not attacking him and are shaking in fear?.. Actually no, we know he would do the same thing Dorf did. HPGoF, resurrection scene, Tom talks to Harry, plays with Harry and then finally goes to kill Harry. OotP (or somewhere with the white floor) when Tom beats Harry he simply stands over him talking, and before he finishes him off he gets distracted. Tom's not always in 'auto kill all' mode either. [/B]

With regards to the sages Tom would have been avada kedavraing their asses up. Tom also could send one giant fire basilisk their way. Tom also can slash his wand which can cut the foe or shoot mega fireballs out of his wand. Or simply blast them.

As long as you can admit pre-ToP Dorf has nothing to do with this. [/B]

Yeah its in character, its not my fault you can't accept things. Ive already given the proof; magic explodes on contact so isnt some bouncy spell, Dorf > Zelda in every single way, Zelda had no magic powers at that time besides what Dorf was so no reason she could do anything, other weaker Dorfs have done so.. [/B]

..now prove its easily reflectable magic when it explodes on contact with anything else. Prove its only Zelda's body that can do this when Dorf has everything Zelda has and more.. same sword, physically stronger, greater magical potency, far better control of powers.. Provide some reasons for you claims for once instead of just giving the most basic, weak answers of 'nah, don't count'. I even asked you for your solid reasoning before. [/B]

So it 'can' be deflected? All I needed. [/B]

That's also not the avada kedavra.

"don't have any proof Link's sword is special" Yes, the Master Sword is a common hunk of metal.. no magical powers or stated repelling abilities at all 😐 I don't care about whatever planet thing or hyperbole youre talking about, the sword is stated to repel evil and has been shown to do so, being proof to its clam... as youve admitted a few moments ago.
The Master Sword repels/blocks magic and energy attacks (attacks from several characters, was even able to absorb and charge up from a lightning bolt), destroys barriers and protects the user from magic spells like curses. Farore's Flame made it "twice its original strength" of the Goddess Sword, which was already stronger than a normal sword. Din's Flame further increased its strength and sacred light, and the final Goddess blessing further increased that.
Normal sword < Goddess Sword < w/Farore < w/Din < w/Goddess blessing. That and using move like the Great Spin coats it in a magic damaging light. Its a powerful magical and physical blade, more if youre evil. [/B]

No, not more it just counters the triforce of power. That's it.

Of course, cause the real canon would weaken your side right? Prove it can damage the sword then, don't just give your opinion on the matter. I know for a fact that it wont seeing as it bounces of statues.

So youre going to ignore every lore that didnt pop up in the film, even if its canon to the verse. Why are you always against what a fictions creator states? [/B]

The fictional creator only has to do with her own book. The films slightly deviate and in some cases go to new ground all together. She wasn't the director so quit acting like she called the shots.

Just had to read through the fan-hate to get to the relevant part. "It shows how weak Dorf is despite all the triforce of power does for him" Yes Im sure it shows he's weak when he and the ToP lose to the one weapon that was made to defeat someone like him with the Triforce.. Its like you don't read. Thats like saying a vampire is weak for losing to fire. Of course they're going to lose to their weaknesses. [/B]

And even if you were right here, it still has nothing to do with this fight unless you want to give Tom the Master Sword. [/B]

Like I said, impressive by HP standards. Means nothing here. Though besides Tom, Albus, maybe one or two other wizards on that level and probably a those fierce dragons (not the wimp ones), what else? LoZ still has a bunch of Gorons who can punch room sized rocks about, Shadow Beasts who can tank bombs and one-shot anyone here, or the rain of arrows theyll receive, aerial assault from flying beasts, skelleton knights, intangible ghosts.. even massive things like that skeleton dragon. even for the monsters. [/B]

The Giants alone would dwarf the Gorons and were far more impressive. That didn't stop wizards from ruling this magical world. You fail to see what an army of wizards would be capable of.

Being ignorant to save face? Clicking that link and reading what I posted there and before gives solid proof that the Ganondorf in the child era of OoT is the exact same person as the Ganondorf in TP. Now you're admitting to ignoring facts. [/B]

Urm, yeah he can. You fight Gorons on death mountain without the boots, just the sword. You should know this if you've played the game. [/B]

"you can't hit him with an arrow" yeah that was kinda my point, but thanks for saying it again? Anyhow seeing as set animations that always happen > taking damage in gameplay, if you want to ignore the arrows then there goes that 'anyone can hurt Link' argument. Just like in WW, and just like in the Ganon fight right before, Ganondorf can dodge arrows.

Face it, your made HP stronger by ignoring things in the books like how AK fails on inanimate objects, then you gimp TP by ignoring its history and lore and then throwing your personal 'portrayals' around which funnily enough only effect your oppositions side. Why is it you think the HP verse is superior to the TP verse when you strengthen the formers side and limit the latter? [/B]

I didn't strengthen the Potterverse. They can time travel, freeze their opponents in their tracks, mindcontrol, shapeshift, etc. If I used any tactic employed in the Potterverse it's a horrific stomp. If anything I have given the Zelda camp a chance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I assumed the sages defeated him in combat. In any event it matters not since we see the ages do just that after his triforce amp kicks in. What do you mean defenseless beings ? They just tried to execute Dorf they were far from defenseless.
It kills them but doesn't power up Link in any way. It just allows him to kill Dorf. It's a plot device which has been done to death in fiction. In other areas of fiction the plot device makes the user more formidable but not in this game.
I don't need to show them capturing him since they defeated him before our eyes with the triforce of power favoring soulless ginger. Link needed aid and the skill to do so. Dorf lost due to being outfought in a sword battle. That's what ultimately lost him his life.

Wasnt the point about it its effectiveness? Cause being more damaging than any normal sword with +1 smiting is something.

No aid, skill something.. again man, sword skill. Sword. Not magic or anything else.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tom wasn't defeated by Dumbledore. Dorf was defeated by the sages. It's not just the heroes but every hero he's faced directly that we've seen that has defeated him. Tom also lost due to a multitude of reasons. It wasn't that Harry was more skilled it was due to the wand resisting Tom and actually being in the possession of Harry the entire time. It was also due to his friends eliminating every horcrux. It was through a lot of aid and trickery. Dorf at the end faced and lost to Link in a battle of skill. Awful.
With regards to the sages Tom would have been avada kedavraing their asses up. Tom also could send one giant fire basilisk their way. Tom also can slash his wand which can cut the foe or shoot mega fireballs out of his wand. Or simply blast them.

Listing Tom's powers is all well and good, but now you're forgetting about his character. As said there are times where instead of killing someone he stands there, sometimes just talking or gloating. We know Tom isnt always in auto-kill mode so no, he wouldnt be launching his best attacks at these helpless guys. Not in his character.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's in character in Zelda's body with a certain ball of energy. Not all magic is the same. I never once contested that. I never said Dorf couldn't do so in his own body I just said he wouldn't do so.

So Dorf can do so in his own body and his character has done so when he was possessing Zelda. Thats character + capable man.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes. I believe this specific attack can easily be repelled. Otherwise we'd see Link lopping off magical attacks the entire game and not just this one specific attack. I already have.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What attack do you believe Dorf can meet his solid beam with his own solid beam of energy ?
That's also not the avada kedavra.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree it is a plot device weapon made to counter the triforce of power but besides that it offers no real advantage. It doesn't break or destroy other swords or give the user any extra abilities.
No, not more it just counters the triforce of power. That's it.

The MS allows the user to channel their lifeforce through the blade to either shoot out blade beams or charge up slashes, TP Link can do the latter.
=Extra abilities, other Link's have been able to channel other magic spells through the sword, not important though.

"The goddess has blessed your blade (...) The sword is now imbued with the mythical power to drive back demons"
"You got the Master Sword! The legendary blade with the power to repel evil"
"The flames of Din have imbued your blade with a sacred white light that demons revile"
"The Master Sword is a sacred blade that evil can never touch. Evil cloaks you like a dark veil... and that blade is the only thing that can cleave it."
"The Master Sword--the evil-destroying sword that you pulled out of the Pedestal of Time"
"I offered my prayers here in the Earth Temple, praying that the power to repel evil would ever remain within the Master Sword."
"You cannot defeat me with a blade that does not sparkle with the power to repel evil! What you hold is useless"
"Link, the power to repel evil is not yet fully awakened."
"Link, I have fully restored the power to repel evil to your Master Sword"
"Now that the Master Sword is once again blessed with the power to repel evil"
"Its blade was specially tempered to resist evil power"
"The Master Sword was also forged to repel evil magic"

..yeah, its super effective on evil and evil magic. Not just those with the Triforce. Just like how Midna was effected by it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did it bounce of statues ? Voldemort's dark magic he unleashes itself has destroyed cement like structures. When did it bounce off a statue ?
The fictional creator only has to do with her own book. The films slightly deviate and in some cases go to new ground all together. She wasn't the director so quit acting like she called the shots.

Yeah, she was only the creator.. no credit to what she says is true. If Rowling says the AK curse can bounce of statues like nothing, thats true for the spell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It wasn't weakness exploitation. The master sword doesn't automatically beat him the wielder displayed more skill. Dorf couldn't resist having the sword impaled in his side. Being around the sword doesn't make him drop to his knees like k-nite would do to Superman.
Just pointing out that someone far less powerful than Dorf and with far less experience sonned him

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hp has the Giants, the golems, werewolves, giant spiders, dementors, the basilisk, the centaurs, Bellatrix, Dumbledore's brother, bellatrix Lestrange, Dobby.
The Giants alone would dwarf the Gorons and were far more impressive. That didn't stop wizards from ruling this magical world. You fail to see what an army of wizards would be capable of.

The biggest problem with HP is that they're glass cannons, all of them. All of the Wizards have normal human bodies, speed, reactions, durability.. if it lands and isn't blocked anything from the LoZ side can one-shot them. The spiders, centaurs, werewolves are just as durable. The Basilisk was killed by a human strength and a sword. Even a Giant collapsed defeated when a stature hit its leg.

Total is like I said, HP has the numbers but are glass cannons, LoZ has the power and can take a hit.

And no actually, I'm not failing to see anything. Ive seen the last film with a near literal wizard army.. Force push blasts, exploding spells making either tiny blasts or wall sized blasts, patronum, expelliarmus.. can't recall anything else. That and a lot of running from wizards and small monsters like spiders. So the creatures giving the numbers is the only thing that lets them compete. Theyre lucky they have the high-tier wizards as they're the only challenge on the HP side.
Besides maybe the patromum a Shadow Beast can tank every one of those spells in that 'war' scene.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I won't read in not having played through oot. What don't you get about that ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
My whole point had to do with physically contesting them. You cannot beat them without the boots in terms of strength.
He can lift them without the boots. He can throw them without the boots. He can take hits from them without the boots.

Youve already admitted that Link has superhuman strength. Youve also admitted that the boots only required for him to stop a charging one, youve failed to comment on the lifting and throwing so I can only assume you cant without admitting Link has this feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never once said someone would kill him with an arrow. He can also be struck by arrows even on horseback. He also can be struck by far slower swords. LOL.

I didn't strengthen the Potterverse. They can time travel, freeze their opponents in their tracks, mindcontrol, shapeshift, etc. If I used any tactic employed in the Potterverse it's a horrific stomp. If anything I have given the Zelda camp a chance.

C'mon that wasnt even an attempt. Might want to notice how A) throughout the fight he has his back, maybe side to Zelda and B) how can he dodge when he's sitting on a horse?

We even have another instance, Beast Ganon, to confirm that he can dodge arrows. Throughout the fight Ganon is wildly running around and can be struck by arrows, until halfway through the fight he becomes less wild, making better use of portals, teleporting and teleporting away from any arrow fired at him. If the wild Beast Ganon can focus and dodge arrows, Dorf can dodge arrows.

False, and covered that in the other thread.

I call Spite thread on this. Quanchi, if you are going to make a thread make it with people that can be considered level players and not just say 'He uses the Killing Curse. Done'. You're a Voldemort Fanboy and no matter what anyone says about someone you say Voldemort wins. You said the same with Voldemort against Doc Manhattan too.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Do they defeat him and his power in combat or do they simply open a portal behind him? Think the sages like the guy who administers the lethal injection. Poses no threat without a needle in hand the the guy strapped down. And Dorf knew it, they were shaking and shuddering at the very sight of him.

Wasnt the point about it its effectiveness? Cause being more damaging than any normal sword with +1 smiting is something.

No aid, skill something.. again man, sword skill. Sword. Not magic or anything else.

O_o that in no way related to anything I said..

The sword causes no more damage than a regular sword it just cuts off Dorf's ability to resist the fatal wound. It shows how shitty of a warrior he is. Link didn't trick him he beat his ass. Link became a warrior a few weeks prior to in all likelihood.

It's a plot device. Hell, in Hpotter Dorf could never find all of Voldemort's horcruxes or destroy him anyways. HPotter magic doesn't exist in Hyrule. Hyrule lacks the leadership, power, organization, and man power of the Potterverse. The races also seem far greater. Hyrule usually has one dragon at a time whereas dragons are chained up by the wizards due to their outright dominance over all else.

Listing Tom's powers is all well and good, but now you're forgetting about his character. As said there are times where instead of killing someone he stands there, sometimes just talking or gloating. We know Tom isnt always in auto-kill mode so no, he wouldnt be launching his best attacks at these helpless guys. Not in his character.[/B]

Tom threw the avada kedavra at Harry more than once. The guy does go for the kill and quite often. We also see him kill his own men with an avada kedavra. We also see him kill in Harry's mind with Avada Kedavara's left and right. I have rarely seen a villain hold back less than Voldemort. Tom also tries to kill Dumbledore multiple times during their duel. Unlucky for Dorf the same circumstances which kept harry alive won't be available for Dorf here.

Im talking about the same spell that gets reflected.

So Dorf can do so in his own body and his character has done so when he was possessing Zelda. Thats character + capable man.

Why that specific attack? The attack erupts on contact unless its repelled, so its not the attack. Whats the proof that no other magic attack can be reflected? (Even if the master sword has done so several times)[/B]

We need to see Dorf do so in his own body. I keep hearing about all this magical resistance so doesn't it make sense he wouldn't even feel the need to defend himself when he's in a much more powerful/durable body.

The only time I saw the avada kedavra met was due to special circumstances not available to Dorf here. One time in GOF.

Not thinking he beam-locks it, my point was that he could just deflect it or block it and throw it back once Tom stops firing. We know it can be blocked, we know it has been reflected, we know Dorf can reflect attacks, we know his sword will be fine.

Im not giving an opinion, Im stating a fact;
-Link's knight sword is weaker than the Goddess Sword before it got any special abilities.
-Farore is stated to make the blade sharper to become twice as powerful, and ends up dealing twice the damage.
-Din and the Goddess both up the strength of the Sword.
-Not even talking about its magical or smiting powers, purely physical stuff.
=In canon the Master Sword is physically several times stronger than any normal blade.[/B]

Potter magic can do so but we never see a sword do so. The Gryffindor sword shows it's very powerful yet I don't see anyone reflect magic in the same manner. Speculation.

I have seen it in combat. I am not saying it is a weak blade but that overall it doesn't give him any advantage in combat than a great blade normally does. The only advantage is it lets Link cut off Dorf's access to the power triforce when it strikes him fatal.

The MS allows the user to channel their lifeforce through the blade to either shoot out blade beams or charge up slashes, TP Link can do the latter.
=Extra abilities, other Link's have been able to channel other magic spells through the sword, not important though.[/B]

I didn't mean to imply it was a weak blade but not one that changes the overall playing field until you get to Dorf. Even then it doesn't but it gives you the opportunity to kill him.

Hyperbole. [/B]

..yeah, its super effective on evil and evil magic. Not just those with the Triforce. Just like how Midna was effected by it.[/B]

I not long posted the quote.

Yeah, she was only the creator.. no credit to what she says is true. If Rowling says the AK curse can bounce of statues like nothing, thats true for the spell.

So thats all its about? Sword skill? In a 100% swordfight, with no magic, abilities or other moves besides those of the sword?[/B]

Link showed he was superior skill wise to Dorf with a sword. It shows us little experience is required to take down Dorf. Doesn't this happen every time he shows up ? A link comes out of nowhere and destroys him.

IMO those few Giants/the Basilisk/Dragons are on the level of Blizzeta/Death Sword/Stallord/Dragons, with some advantage to HP monster high-tiers for having a few more in their ranks. Though, a giant swung for Harry, struck a bell with its huge weapon and failed to even dent it. Unable to dent a bell < Gorons strength feats.
Though LoZ takes the monster mid-tier and low-tier easily.[/B]

The biggest problem with HP is that they're glass cannons, all of them. All of the Wizards have normal human bodies, speed, reactions, durability.. if it lands and isn't blocked anything from the LoZ side can one-shot them. The spiders, centaurs, werewolves are just as durable. The Basilisk was killed by a human strength and a sword. Even a Giant collapsed defeated when a stature hit its leg.[/B]

Total is like I said, HP has the numbers but are glass cannons, LoZ has the power and can take a hit.

And no actually, I'm not failing to see anything. Ive seen the last film with a near literal wizard army.. Force push blasts, exploding spells making either tiny blasts or wall sized blasts, patronum, expelliarmus.. can't recall anything else. That and a lot of running from wizards and small monsters like spiders. So the creatures giving the numbers is the only thing that lets them compete. Theyre lucky they have the high-tier wizards as they're the only challenge on the HP side.
Besides maybe the patromum a Shadow Beast can tank every one of those spells in that 'war' scene. [/B]

Imagine how formidable the Hyrule army would be if it was an army of wizards. Hell, a few of them from Hyrule beat Dorf with the triforce of power.

Potterverse is on another level.

Hell, a few of them from Hyrule beat Dorf with the triforce of power.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Because theres no spoilers, no 'must play to get this' requirements. And its a solid piece of evidence that states that Child timeline Dorf is the very same Dorf in TP.

Youve already admitted that Link has superhuman strength. Youve also admitted that the boots only required for him to stop a charging one, youve failed to comment on the lifting and throwing so I can only assume you cant without admitting Link has this feat. [/B]

C'mon that wasnt even an attempt. Might want to notice how A) throughout the fight he has his back, maybe side to Zelda and B) how can he dodge when he's sitting on a horse?

We even have another instance, Beast Ganon, to confirm that he can dodge arrows. Throughout the fight Ganon is wildly running around and can be struck by arrows, until halfway through the fight he becomes less wild, making better use of portals, teleporting and teleporting away from any arrow fired at him. If the wild Beast Ganon can focus and dodge arrows, Dorf can dodge arrows.

False, and covered that in the other thread. [/B]

I never said he couldn't but a beast ganon is a different body which is more athletic. It's like comparing agility of a beast to a man. The animal body obviously has the advantage.

Then man up and accept the challenge.

Then man up and accept the challenge.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
I call Spite thread on this. Quanchi, if you are going to make a thread make it with people that can be considered level players and not just say 'He uses the Killing Curse. Done'. You're a Voldemort Fanboy and no matter what anyone says about someone you say Voldemort wins. You said the same with Voldemort against Doc Manhattan too.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
They could not, with all their power combined, overcome the triforce of power.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The one you declined?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I offered a challenge. You then started spewing nonsense about a character I am unfamiliar with. You came into my open challenge and have backed down at every turn. You are scared. It's cool.

So yeah, the one you declined.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That's funny. I'm actively trying to get you to own up to your own challenge, and you won't. It's that simple. I'm actually trying to draw you into [b]more debate, and you'll have none of it. You're the one backing down, and everyone can see it.

So yeah, the one you declined. [/B]

I'd destroy you in the thread and you know it. That's why you created the out. You are gutless.

Then how come I'm the one still pushing for the thread to happen? Spin more.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Then how come I'm the one still pushing for the thread to happen? Spin more.

Lol'd IRL.

This is just great. All talk, no trousers, eh Quan? You know damn well you'll get smashed in both threads, you're refusing my challenge now.

Quan is:
-Backing down
-Refusing to do the battlezone threads
-Trying to pin it everywhere but himself.

You're backing down, it's that simple.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol'd IRL.

This is just great. All talk, no trousers, eh Quan? You know damn well you'll get smashed in both threads, you're refusing my challenge now.

Quan is:
-Backing down
-Refusing to do the battlezone threads
-Trying to pin it everywhere but himself.

You're backing down, it's that simple.

Ganondorf wins. Simply because nothing can hurt him but the most powerful of holy weapons like the Master Sword. Even if Ganondorf does die he is able to reincarnate himself.

Ganondorf is immortal and despite his size is quick enough to dodge a sword and even arrows.

Sorry to say but even your beloved Achilies would fall to this titan.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lol'd IRL.

This is just great. All talk, no trousers, eh Quan? You know damn well you'll get smashed in both threads, you're refusing my challenge now.

Quan is:
-Backing down
-Refusing to do the battlezone threads
-Trying to pin it everywhere but himself.

You're backing down, it's that simple.

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
Ganondorf wins. Simply because nothing can hurt him but the most powerful of holy weapons like the Master Sword. Even if Ganondorf does die he is able to reincarnate himself.

Ganondorf is immortal and despite his size is quick enough to dodge a sword and even arrows.

Sorry to say but even your beloved Achilies would fall to this titan.

You say he can resurrect himself. LOL. He didn't do so when Link killed him. Voldemort can't be killed unless the horcruxes are destroyed.

Achilles isn't in this thread. You are embarrassing yourself. The best is when you said this isn't foreign cinema. You are all riled up. LOL.