Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's a magical door which sucked him through, like a drain. We see this clearly in the cutscene, he wasn't grabbed or TK'd through, he was pulled through by suction.

Wizards have no innate defenses and none with defenses have ever been killed by AK. AK has overcome magic resistance 0 times.

Consistant feat*. You don't know what a mechanic is.

Voldemort cannot hit him, harm him with it, or avoid it being sent back in his face. Voldemort is helpless.

Yes, they do as we clearly see throughout the films. Ak kills what it hits. The only way to defend is to against it is sacrificing your life by having the choice and protecting a loved one.

That is not a counter.

Yes, he kills him. Voldemort wins as he is the superior magical user.

What magic? The air in the room that pulled him through?

Show me one instance of AK killing a wizard who was protected.

Your 'argument' isn't valid, it requires no counter, I'm correcting you.l

Show Voldemort overcoming comparable magic resistance, or no, he cannot even harm Ganondorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
What magic? The air in the room that pulled him through?

Show me one instance of AK killing a wizard who was protected.

Your 'argument' isn't valid, it requires no counter, I'm correcting you.l

Show Voldemort overcoming comparable magic resistance, or no, he cannot even harm Ganondorf.

They all have magic the only way to protect yourself is to have someone else die in your stead.

False.

He overcame Harry's protection by using Harry's blood to be reborn into his new body.

So because Wizards use Floo Powder, none of them have magical resistance...? The mirror is a door, Ganon was sucked through it. What's your point? This has no bearing on his magic resistance.

So you have no showings of it killing someone who had defenses.

Concession accepted.

Lol. That's funny, since he never did manage to kill Harry. So AK has never killed anyone with defense? Ganon has defense. Ganon is immune.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)K-nite kills him if it can be close long enough,
2) Dorf is a living being who is on the same level as humans but has magic making him formidable. He can be killed as has.
3) nope, it protects against that certain transformation from its world which isn't the same thing. That is also the Toc not the top as evidence.
4) it protected him from the durability fatality not the magical part.

I have given evidence you have ignored. Ak works as you have no proven he can resist the death magic. Game over.

2) Magic saving him from human-level fatality, yes. The same what we've seen from AK.

3) Me: "the TF resists powerful afflicting magic." Your response: "to a certain point ".
Or to flesh that out; In retaliation to a powerful afflicting magic, the Triforce protects the user to a certain point. The same reason Dorf and Zelda can survive in both realms to no ill-effect.

4) If that were true the 'durability' part would have been dealt with. It wasn't, only the fatality was regardless of the wound.

Yeah no. You have not posted a single link, quote, statement, video or any sort of evidence for your case besides giving me your personal opinion on it. What's that worth against facts?

HH, game statements, character quotes and the intention of its creator > your opinion.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So because Wizards use Floo Powder, none of them have magical resistance...? The mirror is a door, Ganon was sucked through it. What's your point? This has no bearing on his magic resistance.

So you have no showings of it killing someone who had defenses.

Concession accepted.

Lol. That's funny, since he never did manage to kill Harry. So AK has never killed anyone with defense? Ganon has defense. Ganon is immune.

We see it kill various wizards.

You already conceded.

Due to a Horcrux being inside him and someone protecting and lying he was dead.

Ganondorf is dying.

Originally posted by BloodRain
1) So you're saying direct physical contact means nothing here?

2) Magic saving him from human-level fatality, yes. The same what we've seen from AK.

3) Me: "the TF resists powerful afflicting magic." Your response: "to a certain point ".
Or to flesh that out; In retaliation to a powerful afflicting magic, the Triforce protects the user to a certain point. The same reason Dorf and Zelda can survive in both realms to no ill-effect.

4) If that were true the 'durability' part would have been dealt with. It wasn't, only the fatality was regardless of the wound.

Yeah no. You have not posted a single link, quote, statement, video or any sort of evidence for your case besides giving me your personal opinion on it. What's that worth against facts?

HH, game statements, character quotes and the intention of its creator > your opinion.

2) Dorf is nothing more than a magic user as well. Ak kills magic users.

3) An indirect area of effect thing not a particular specific direct magical attack.

4) The magic staved off the durability death. That's the issue here. Ak is instant death. Specific magic not a mortal wound.

Hyperbole is ridiculous. Cling to it.

Bottom line: AK can be blocked with love shields. . .and Priorincantantum... and physical objects... and someone having a claim on the wand... and beam struggles...

What can't block it?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Bottom line: AK can be blocked with love shields. . .and Priorincantantum... and physical objects... and someone having a claim on the wand... and beam struggles...

What can't block it?

Voldemort also has Crucio and many other attacks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am saying that they all have access to magic and we see only one method of self sacrifice being the only way to protect a loved one.

We see it kill various wizards.

You already conceded.

Due to a Horcrux being inside him and someone protecting and lying he was dead.

Ganondorf is dying.

Learn what a concession is.

So both times Harry was hit with it, the guy who cast it on him suffered for it. Voldemort. One time he didn't even have magic resistance, just a piece of Voldemort's soul. haermm Christ, it can't even kill 1.12 undefended people.

Ganon is too resistant. Voldemort might as well try to hurt Iron Man with his fists.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So you're saying Wizards can cast spells. Okay. This does not make them magic resistant. AK has never killed anyone with magic resistance.

Learn what a concession is.

So both times Harry was hit with it, the guy who cast it on him suffered for it. Voldemort. One time he didn't even have magic resistance, just a piece of Voldemort's soul. haermm Christ, it can't even kill 1.12 undefended people.

Ganon is too resistant. Voldemort might as well try to hurt Iron Man with his fists.

You demonstrate them all the time.

Yes, due to love sacrifice and unknown Horcrux. The Ak killed the part of Voldemort inside him.

Ganondorf is a joke to IronMan. Voldemort kills IronMan as well as Ganondorf.

What's your point here exactly? That Ganon doesn't use the spells wizards do? Okay. This has nothing to do with the fact Wizards do not have magic resistance and Ganondorf does.

By pointing out your own. 🙂

A simple charm and 0.12 of Voldemort's soul. Lol.

ORLY? haermm

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
What's your point here exactly? That Ganon doesn't use the spells wizards do? Okay. This has nothing to do with the fact Wizards do not have magic resistance and Ganondorf does.

By pointing out your own. 🙂

A simple charm and 0.12 of Voldemort's soul. Lol.

ORLY? haermm

Ak kills him.

That charm requires sacrificial death so it is anything but simple.

I am glad you didn't disagree to Voldemort killing Ganondorf.

And it never kills anyone being protected by said shield spells.

AK has no feats to suggest it can.

It's straight up called simple in universe.

It should be obvious by now that Voldemort has no feats allowing him to so much as tickle Dorf. 🙂 Also I made that thread for you.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And it never kills anyone being protected by said shield spells.

AK has no feats to suggest it can.

It's straight up called simple in universe.

It should be obvious by now that Voldemort has no feats allowing him to so much as tickle Dorf. 🙂 Also I made that thread for you.

Yes, it does.

That doesn't mean mean with regards to power.

Dorf always gets beat. Voldemort beats him.

It shows that AK is completely ineffective against anyone with even a modicum of defense.

Prove it.

It doesn't matter how powerful it is, since we know carrying 0.12 extra soul is enough to protect you, too. That's pathetic.

Ganondorf is too magically resistant to be so much as tickled. He breaks Voldemort in half.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It shows that AK is completely ineffective against anyone with even a modicum of defense.

Prove it.

It doesn't matter how powerful it is, since we know carrying 0.12 extra soul is enough to protect you, too. That's pathetic.

Ganondorf is too magically resistant to be so much as tickled. He breaks Voldemort in half.

You first.

That is what was killed.

False. Needed to be rezzed after a bfr.

That is not what it shows at all, no one with any protection has ever been killed by AK.

Concession accepted.

So it killed 0.12 of a person. Greaaaat feat. Harry was hit and survived because of 12% extra soul. It'll do nothing to Dorf who carries the ToP.

Show AK killing an immortal or someone with resistance. 🙂

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That is not what it shows at all, no one with any protection has ever been killed by AK.

Concession accepted.

So it killed 0.12 of a person. Greaaaat feat. Harry was hit and survived because of 12% extra soul. It'll do nothing to Dorf who carries the ToP.

Show AK killing an immortal or someone with resistance. 🙂

You did.

It killed the part of him living in Harry.

We have already been over this. Dorf can die. And has. 😄

So you can't show it ever overcoming any amount of protection. Good.

You can't provide evidence. Good.

So it killed 0.12 of a person. Lel.

So you have no showings of AK doing anything even moderately impressive, and it cannot effect Ganondorf? Good.