Originally posted by quanchi112
This is Tp only. I can tell you're losing since you're arguing for other games. 😂Luminos beats the shitty spell. Harry at age 8 could stop this stupid spell.
It's obvious you're losing because you haven't produced any feats for AK.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThey hurt him which implies enough attacks could kill him. What can hurt you but can't eventually kill you ? 🙂
The Light arrows appear in TP as well as WW and OoT <3 They're formed from the Light Spirits who are regional+, they can't kill Ganondorf, AK cannot.It's obvious you're losing because you haven't produced any feats for AK.
Ak kills him. Can kill you if it touches the big toe unlike the crappy Master Sword.
Originally posted by quanchi112Ohh, you were saying that the wizards can make some sort of defensive spells, not that they actually did in the face of the spell. I was actually asking for evidence of their natural defences so we can establish just what level of spells AK can overcome. We already know love charms and objects and render the spell useless, meaning it has limits.
Love and self sacrifice charm which protects the one who was saved.There was a symbiotic relationship. Dorf further empowered the magic.
Yes, she asked for power to harm him but it wasn't enough force to kill him.
It did not corrupt Midna until she put it on. Dorf only held it.
Ak delivers instant death ala the magical variety not like a sword impalement which eventually can kill a mortal. Maples and oranges. It's like saying look plugging someone's nose kills them so naturally if someone can resist this they can resist Ak.
Again, prove this connection. Opinions are nice and all, but facts are needed of this symbiosis.
Can you prove it was power alone, and not the affinity? Back up your claim.
The fused shadows are the ancient magic of her people.. Don't forget that the is the Twilight Princess. She was the only one able to grasp the full power. And the others? "But the moment Darbus reached out and touched the treasure...everything went wrong. He collapsed...and before our very eyes transformed into an unspeakable monster!" grabbing was all it took. How did Dorf fair?
To a mortal level, yes. Hah.. no. Because it wasn't that Dorf so happened to resist a stab would. He actually resisted death. For all intents and purposes he was on deaths door, and then the ToP woke him up. He resisted death. He will do so here. Unless you give me some feats, finally.
Originally posted by quanchi112That would be more threatening if you didn't already unleash part of your BZ argument.. despite how lackluster and weak it was. You've been over-hyping yourself. Tut tut.
Trust me Bloodrain I only toy with you Fanboys and in battlezone form you'll see my true debating prowess. Shame Xanatos backed out at the last minute.
Originally posted by BloodRainSomeone still dies though every time it is used. No one can jump and save Dorf in a versus thread so irrelevant.
Ohh, you were saying that the wizards can make some sort of defensive spells, not that they actually did in the face of the spell. I was actually asking for evidence of their natural defences so we can establish just what level of spells AK can overcome. We already know love charms and objects and render the spell useless, meaning it has limits.Again, prove this connection. Opinions are nice and all, but facts are needed of this symbiosis.
Can you prove it was power alone, and not the affinity? Back up your claim.
The fused shadows are the ancient magic of her people.. Don't forget that the is the Twilight Princess. She was the only one able to grasp the full power. And the others? "But the moment Darbus reached out and touched the treasure...everything went wrong. He collapsed...and before our very eyes transformed into an unspeakable monster!" grabbing was all it took. How did Dorf fair?
To a mortal level, yes. Hah.. no. Because it wasn't that Dorf so happened to resist a stab would. He actually resisted death. For all intents and purposes he was on deaths door, and then the ToP woke him up. He resisted death. He will do so here. Unless you give me some feats, finally.
That would be more threatening if you didn't already unleash part of your BZ argument.. despite how lackluster and weak it was. You've been over-hyping yourself. Tut tut.
Death of Zant--GANON
I shall house my power in you..
If there is anything you desire, then I shall desire it, too.
You people honestly are starting to make me genuinely sick. You lie and you deny the obvious meaning in an attempt to exaggerate his feats.
Dorf beat her. He didn't put it on so just like her he was fine. Simple explanation. Quit picking and choosing what applies.
He resisted a mortal stabbing but not the effect or the damage. It was still a wound but not an immediate magically induced death. He never never resisted something like this and when magic was involved he died. 😂
You're a dishonest debater and a fanboy. I didn't want to believe it but that is who you are. You are devoid of objectivity.
Originally posted by quanchi112Oh don't just ignore the post, it makes this so boring when you don't play along. Now where were we? Oh yes, defences. Can you show me AK overcoming some? Even a weak one will do at this point. Regardless is someone died with the love charm means nothing as the love charm is not what I'm arguing about. Merely the fact that there are known defences against AK, meaning its not a no-limits kill-all spell like the cowards tend to believe.
Someone still dies though every time it is used. No one can jump and save Dorf in a versus thread so irrelevant.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Death of Zant--GANON
I shall house my power in you..
If there is anything you desire, then I shall desire it, too.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You people honestly are starting to make me genuinely sick. You lie and you deny the obvious meaning in an attempt to exaggerate his feats.
Now, back to the feats. Can you or can you not prove that despite the Spirits shown holy light and Zelda asking for just that, that its actual power meant nothing and it only became a strong, bright, normal arrow?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dorf beat her. He didn't put it on so just like her he was fine. Simple explanation. Quit picking and choosing what applies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He resisted a mortal stabbing but not the effect or the damage. It was still a wound but not an immediate magically induced death. He never never resisted something like this and when magic was involved he died.
Now we get back to basic facts to draw a conclusion;
1. AK Limitation- It is capable of being blocked physically and even deflected by certain types of magic.
2. AK Limitation- AK only has one trait, a death curse. Resist that and you're sound.
3. AK Limitation- Has never been shown to kill someone with some kind of defence, when we know it is possible to happen.
4. Afflicting magic resistance- Dorf has grabbed an artefact proven to corrupt on touch, with no issues.
5. Afflicting magic resistance- ..and was resisting Twilights affect, just as the other Triforce wielders have proven.
6. Afflicting magic resistance- ..and also has resisted the holy light of the Spirit, who have the power to push back Twilight and knock Midna out via presence alone.
7. Death resistance- Dorf, thanks to the ToP, was able to literally stop dying. His wound was unaffected, but he still resisted death.
A death curse that we know has limitations with no showings against those with defences, against someone with both afflicting magic and death resistance?
Originally posted by quanchi112Heyy look, more talking. Is this where we have a nice little chat? Should I get the tea and biscuits? Personally I thought we were here to debate the point, but whatever floats your boat kiddo.
You're a dishonest debater and a fanboy. I didn't want to believe it but that is who you are. You are devoid of objectivity.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteMaster sword kills him. Light arrows hurt him. The light arrows have no feats to suggest as such but this is the debating I am used to from you guys. Everything Hyrule based is great despite no proof.
The Master Sword defeats him. 🙂 And the light arrows are >>> Voldemort, let alone the sword.
😂
Originally posted by BloodRainFalse. We know it kills those it hits. The only known protection has to first kill someone to protect the intended target. Kill curse is pretty formidable. Nothing in the Zelda universe is a oneshot death spell.
Oh don't just ignore the post, it makes this so boring when you don't play along. Now where were we? Oh yes, defences. Can you show me AK overcoming some? Even a weak one will do at this point. Regardless is someone died with the love charm means nothing as the love charm is not what I'm arguing about. Merely the fact that there [b]are known defences against AK, meaning its not a no-limits kill-all spell like the cowards tend to believe.Congratulations for telling us Dorf gave power to Zant, which we all knew? Now show me the symbiosis of Twilight choosing to spare Dorf. Fruitless, really, as we've already seen the TF protect both Link and Zelda, that saying it wasn't the case with Dorf is a weak claim.
Not my fault if you get a weak stomach in debates /shrugs/.
Now, back to the feats. Can you or can you not prove that despite the Spirits shown holy light and Zelda asking for just that, that its actual power meant nothing and it only became a strong, bright, normal arrow?
Lol what? He didn't put it on like her? Even though she did put it on..? See, its a bit curious how you believe Twilight spares Dorf via symbiotic trust, when the Fused Shadow piece which chose Midna, the chosen Twilight Princess, that it not corrupting her like it instantly did to three beings means nothing to her being naturally fine with it. Ganondorf is not the Twilight Princess. Ganondorf did grab hold of the corrupting stone, and was fine.
It was already on the verge of killing him before the TF intervened. As you yourself have admitted to, the wound was not healed, meaning the physical wound itself isn't what the TF protected him from.
Now we get back to basic facts to draw a conclusion;
1. AK Limitation- It is capable of being blocked physically and even deflected by certain types of magic.
2. AK Limitation- AK only has one trait, a death curse. Resist that and you're sound.
3. AK Limitation- Has never been shown to kill someone with some kind of defence, when we know it is possible to happen.
4. Afflicting magic resistance- Dorf has grabbed an artefact proven to corrupt on touch, with no issues.
5. Afflicting magic resistance- ..and was resisting Twilights affect, just as the other Triforce wielders have proven.
6. Afflicting magic resistance- ..and also has resisted the holy light of the Spirit, who have the power to push back Twilight and knock Midna out via presence alone.
7. Death resistance- Dorf, thanks to the ToP, was able to literally stop dying. His wound was unaffected, but he still resisted death.A death curse that we know has limitations with no showings against those with defences, against someone with both afflicting magic and death resistance?
Heyy look, more talking. Is this where we have a nice little chat? Should I get the tea and biscuits? Personally I thought we were here to debate the point, but whatever floats your boat kiddo. [/B]
If there is anything you desire I shall desire it too.
symbiotic - A relationship of mutual benefit or dependence.
Fits the definition exactly.
When did anyone throw a Twilight spell at Dorf anyway ?
Dorf has a symbiotic relationship with Zant and again it didn't corrupt Midna by touching it. Continue to act silly it only hurts your case.
I agree the magic resisted the effects of the physical wound which is a natural death in which the body shuts down. This isn't a magically induced death which takes place from the Ak.
1. I never said that it couldn't be blocked or avoided. Quit mincing my words.
2. It has never been resisted outside extenuating circumstances.
3. Dorf has never resisted specific magic.
4. So did Midna. Nothing exciting there.
5. He resisted Midna's attacks and defeated her. He just resisted magical force is all. Not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination.
6. The magic was of a physical kind only and clearly affected Dorf. He was not immune to the light arrows. 🙂
7. He resisted a natural death due to a wound not a magically induced death which leaves the body completely fine.
You have not proven limitations but I can prove specific magic works against Dorf. Mirror and the Master Sword.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Master sword kills him. Light arrows hurt him. The light arrows have no feats to suggest as such but this is the debating I am used to from you guys. Everything Hyrule based is great despite no proof.😂
The Master Sword is legitimately planetary, AK can't kill someone with 1.12 of a soul.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteLight arrows hurt him. That was the point. He did not resist or display immunity.
The light arrows are the light spirits. Your move.The Master Sword is legitimately planetary, AK can't kill someone with 1.12 of a soul.
No, it isn't. The sword was parried by the executioners sword. It dispelled magic and thus killed the weak usurper king.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYes, they did they just didn't defeat him.
Except that they didn't hurt him.Oh look, you're being wrong. The Master Sword is factually planetary, mah boi. The Sages sword not being snapped in half says a lot more about the sages than Fi.
No, it isn't. The sword is just a magical sword which can dispel magic. That's all. Doesn't kill with a single attack and can be parried by other swords.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteIf he laughed them off why did he lose his horse ?
Righto, he literally laughed at them.Shame it literally cut a continent out of the Earth and has overcome the completed triforce, shattered castle size barriers, held the world in a time stop, and killed the original evil. The Master Sword > Your Voldemort fangirling.
Not in Tp which is the only thing relevant.
In this game it can be parried and can't kill unless it strikes a mortal wound which can also dispel magic.
🙂
Because Link unseated him with the Master Sword.
Awh, look at you trying to cover your ears and ignore the Sword's power. They're canon to TP.
In this game it is the Master Sword and the only thing that causes Ganon any harm, showing itself to be well above Midna's castle busting power. Something Voldemort cannot claim.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteIf the light arrows did not hurt him they would bounce right off. They did not.
Because Link unseated him with the Master Sword.Awh, look at you trying to cover your ears and ignore the Sword's power. They're canon to TP.
In this game it is the Master Sword and the only thing that causes Ganon any harm, showing itself to be well above Midna's castle busting power. Something Voldemort cannot claim.
No, this is only Tp. In the game we use the feats for the sword only.
Executioners sword clearly harms him to which he bears a wound later. The guy can't even heal from past damage. Awful. Cut him and his skin won't even heal itself over the wound.
