Voldemort vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

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The only sword that's ever defeated him is the Master Sword.

Simple charm, Ganondorf could dispel it with a thought and it killed Voldemort.

Simple charm, 0.12 of a soul, not once has AK killed someone with any defense at all.

That Link at the time was not as powerful as he is later in the game.

Link had help from the light spirits, Zelda, and Fi, actually, and Link is not relevant to any argument against Ganondorf in this thread since no one in HP could touch him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The only sword that's ever defeated him is the Master Sword.

Simple charm, Ganondorf could dispel it with a thought and it killed Voldemort.

Simple charm, 0.12 of a soul, not once has AK killed someone with any defense at all.

That Link at the time was not as powerful as he is later in the game.

Link had help from the light spirits, Zelda, and Fi, actually, and Link is not relevant to any argument against Ganondorf in this thread since no one in HP could touch him.

That is a sword. 🙂

No, he couldn't. A simple mirror defeated him. 🙂

Dorf doesn't have any other souls inside him so he dies.

False.

Link won at the end. Dorf had help from Zant and his minions as well.

In the same way that Superman is a man, I guess.

No, he moved through it. And again, not a 'simply mirror'. It's a doorway to another world.

Ganondorf has the ToP, so no.

Cry.

Link with a planetary artefact and the help of physical gods, any of which could end Voldemort with a thought.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
In the same way that Superman is a man, I guess.

No, he moved through it. And again, not a 'simply mirror'. It's a doorway to another world.

Ganondorf has the ToP, so no.

Cry.

Link with a planetary artefact and the help of physical gods, any of which could end Voldemort with a thought.

Just a sword which negates his magic.

Well, describing a charm which requires self sacrifice makes about as much sense as calling it a simple mirror.

I will instead smile.

Link had no planetary feats in the game with it. Anyone could parry it in the game.

Link couldn't end anyone with a thought.

🙂

And now you're lying. I like it when you resort to blatant lies.

No, because the charm is described in universe as simple, this is canon. It is referred to as 'a simple charm'.

You're trying to hard to act like the gameplay matters.

Learn your syntax, that is in clear reference to the light spirits, Link would end them with a particularly hard look.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And now you're lying. I like it when you resort to blatant lies.

No, because the charm is described in universe as simple, this is canon. It is referred to as 'a simple charm'.

You're trying to hard to act like the gameplay matters.

Learn your syntax, that is in clear reference to the light spirits, Link would end them with a particularly hard look.

It isn't simple though. It requires death in order to grant someone protection.

😂

It does but the sword is blocked canonically by another sword.

😂

Based on him ending who with a look ?

Woo, so it's not a very efficient charm.

The Sage's sword, which is made by the sages.

Your mother's celibacy.

link-rape

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Woo, so it's not a very efficient charm.

The Sage's sword, which is made by the sages.

Your mother's celibacy.

link-rape

It is efficient but it requires death and quick thinking to jump into the path of the intended victim.

So ? It blocks the master sword. So can any other sword. Keep ignoring everything.

Quit taking things personally.

That's not efficient. At all.

It's also made from magic more powerful than exists in the HPverse, the sages guard the sacred realm, lol.

Link could crush Voldemort between his eyebrows if he wanted.

link-rape

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That's not efficient. At all.

It's also made from magic more powerful than exists in the HPverse, the sages guard the sacred realm, lol.

Link could crush Voldemort between his eyebrows if he wanted.

link-rape

It protected Harry. It is efficient.

Baseless claim.

More of this ridiculous baseless claims I reduce you to.

At the cost of someone else's life, that's inefficient.

You seem upset by how comparatively weak HP wizards are.

I'm serious about that, Link could murder Voldemort with just his eyebrows.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
At the cost of someone else's life, that's inefficient.

You seem upset by how comparatively weak HP wizards are.

I'm serious about that, Link could murder Voldemort with just his eyebrows.

That is the price you pay to protect another.

Magical light can drive away the twilight magic. Easy, peesy.

In your mind unicorns are real.

No it isn't, how many asses has Dumbledore saved in the movies?

You're clinging far too hard to that. No one in HPverse has the raw power needed to separate Twilight from the world.

In my mind unicorns are sexy. That's different.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No it isn't, how many asses has Dumbledore saved in the movies?

You're clinging far too hard to that. No one in HPverse has the raw power needed to separate Twilight from the world.

In my mind unicorns are [b]sexy. That's different. [/B]

He saved. Harry. Boom.

All that is needed is magical light. I already proved it with your help.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He saved. Harry. Boom.

All that is needed is magical light. I already proved it with your help.


Yeah, he saved Harry without throwing himself in the way of any spells.

Except the game flat out proves you wrong, and you're trying to misinterpret a quote to lowball. In reality it takes vast amounts of power to separate Twilight and the world it's merged with.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yeah, he saved Harry without throwing himself in the way of any spells.

Except the game flat out proves you wrong, and you're trying to misinterpret a quote to lowball. In reality it takes vast amounts of power to separate Twilight and the world it's merged with.

He did jump into the middle of a blast. OOTP.

No, just light not a lot of power. Find me a quote which says a lot of power. I've destroyed your myth.

He used his wand to defend himself and others except when he died, which he did on purpose.

Wrong, if all it took was light then removing Twilight would be easy, and it is not. If light could stop it alone, Zant couldn't have called down Twilight in the presence of a light spirit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He used his wand to defend himself and others except when he died, which he did on purpose.

Wrong, if all it took was light then removing Twilight would be easy, and it is not. If light could stop it alone, Zant couldn't have called down Twilight in the presence of a light spirit.

I know.

It says that plain as day. Light can remove it but the light spirits had their light stolen.

😆

Then why are you arguing it? The love charm is simple, and inefficient.

Zant didn't steal Lanayru's light, though, he just beat him up, Link never had to return Lanayru's light in order for him to appear during the final battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. We know it kills those it hits. The only known protection has to first kill someone to protect the intended target. Kill curse is pretty formidable. Nothing in the Zelda universe is a oneshot death spell.

Summed up: It kills those it hits, though its proven that protections do in fact exists.

Isn't that what I just said?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If there is anything you desire I shall desire it too.
symbiotic - A relationship of mutual benefit or dependence.

Fits the definition exactly.

When did anyone throw a Twilight spell at Dorf anyway ?

Ya mean the part where Dorf decided to manipulate and use Zant for his own purposes? And that's for Zant, not all of Twilight.

And you know a definition of a word means nothing without the practical examples proving the Twilight itself somehow sparred him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dorf has a symbiotic relationship with Zant and again it didn't corrupt Midna by touching it. Continue to act silly it only hurts your case.

Lol what are you on about now? So let me get this straight; Ganondorf gave Zant power, so that means Ganondorf now gains immunity from the Fused Shadows with are above both the amped Zant and Twilight? Well that makes sense..

Guess this is where we herpderp and remind the floor of whom the Twilight Princess is.

Is Ganondorf the Twilight Princess? No? Shocking.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree the magic resisted the effects of the physical wound which is a natural death in which the body shuts down. This isn't a magically induced death which takes place from the Ak.

1. I never said that it couldn't be blocked or avoided. Quit mincing my words.

2. It has never been resisted outside extenuating circumstances.

3. Dorf has never resisted specific magic.

4. So did Midna. Nothing exciting there.

5. He resisted Midna's attacks and defeated her. He just resisted magical force is all. Not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination.

6. The magic was of a physical kind only and clearly affected Dorf. He was not immune to the light arrows.

7. He resisted a natural death due to a wound not a magically induced death which leaves the body completely fine.

You have not proven limitations but I can prove specific magic works against Dorf. Mirror and the Master Sword.

Thank you. The magic within Dorf resisted death to that level. Magically induced, stabbed, via bullet wound, a brutal beating, burnt crispy... either way, and you said it yourself, what was resisted was the body being totalled with death.

1. This is a sum up of known facts to draw a conclusion. For instance; Fact, the spell can and has been blocked.

2. So? A character with mind control powers can be shown in his verse that no one can resist him, because they can't. Now does that mean a character who has resisted it couldn't resist him, just because none of the featless people have? No, the second will resist. If a character (not saying Dorf, just generalization) has proven to resist a form of death, they would fair well against a death curse unless the feats speak in its favour.

3. Has. Gave you the list. Go back and read it if you've forgotten. Now what was the point? Right, AK. Yes, AK has never been shown to kill someone with defences.

4. Unlike Midna, Dorf isn't the Twilight Princess the Fused Shadows specifically chose to give power to. Fact remains.

5. "and was resisting Twilights affect, just as the other Triforce wielders have proven." Way to miss another point.

6. Something you've both failed to and refused to give evidence for. Not forgetting this until you prove it. Get on it.

7. Resisted death. Literally was just saying this. Why are you parroting me?

Explain how the Mirror is a magically afflicting spell. Would like to see that. And citing the Master Sword? The weapon that has throughout LoZ history been proven to be an incredibility strong artefact with its main focus coming from its holy, anti-evil power? Sorry, what was the point in mentioning the Sword again?