Originally posted by ScreamPasteit is efficient it requires sacrifice then that person is protected.
Then why are you arguing it? The love charm is simple, and inefficient.Zant didn't steal Lanayru's light, though, he just beat him up, Link never had to return Lanayru's light in order for him to appear during the final battle.
He can beat him up but he can't cover the land in twilight with him back.
I am dancing all over Hyrule.
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Originally posted by BloodRainThis has already been covered. You're just repeating yourself. I backed my claims you haven't. 🙂
Summed up: It kills those it hits, though its proven that protections do in fact exists.Isn't that what I just said?
Ya mean the part where Dorf decided to manipulate and use Zant for his own purposes? And that's for Zant, not all of Twilight.
And you know a definition of a word means nothing without the practical examples proving the Twilight itself somehow sparred him.
Lol what are you on about now? So let me get this straight; Ganondorf gave Zant power, so that means Ganondorf now gains immunity from the Fused Shadows with are above both the amped Zant and Twilight? Well that makes sense..
Guess this is where we herpderp and remind the floor of whom the Twilight Princess is.
Is Ganondorf the Twilight Princess? No? Shocking.
Thank you. The magic within Dorf resisted death to that level. Magically induced, stabbed, via bullet wound, a brutal beating, burnt crispy... either way, and you said it yourself, what was resisted was the body being totalled with death.
1. This is a sum up of known facts to draw a conclusion. For instance; Fact, the spell can and has been blocked.
2. So? A character with mind control powers can be shown in his verse that no one can resist him, because they can't. Now does that mean a character who has resisted it couldn't resist him, just because none of the featless people have? No, the second will resist. If a character (not saying Dorf, just generalization) has proven to resist a form of death, they would fair well against a death curse unless the feats speak in its favour.
3. Has. Gave you the list. Go back and read it if you've forgotten. Now what was the point? Right, AK. Yes, AK has never been shown to kill someone with defences.
4. Unlike Midna, Dorf isn't the Twilight Princess the Fused Shadows specifically chose to give power to. Fact remains.
5. "and was resisting Twilights affect, just as the other Triforce wielders have proven." Way to miss another point.
6. Something you've both failed to and refused to give evidence for. Not forgetting this until you prove it. Get on it.
7. Resisted death. Literally was just saying this. Why are you parroting me?
Explain how the Mirror is a magically afflicting spell. Would like to see that. And citing the Master Sword? The weapon that has throughout LoZ history been proven to be an incredibility strong artefact with its main focus coming from its holy, anti-evil power? Sorry, what was the point in mentioning the Sword again?
Originally posted by BloodRainIt is you who lost. You tried trapping me into a circular argument whereas I have definitively backed all my claims.
Hm, a quick win.. though not surprised as you haven't been able to prove what I've asked for or dig up an argument. Losing the one thing you've been good at man.Can I take that as a +10%? 😛
I win you lose, k.
My argument is still up there, without a dent. Coupled with a complete, and rare, 'cant do it' approach?
Don't remember you confirming symbiosis besides saying it sounds like the definition, or how Dorf is suddenly a princess like Midna, or anything on the AK thing besides "its a different sort of death/resistance". Sure looks like backed up claims to me.
Get back to your BZ mode, would do some good.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Summed up: It kills those it hits, though its proven that protections do in fact exists.Isn't that what I just said?
Ya mean the part where Dorf decided to manipulate and use Zant for his own purposes? And that's for Zant, not all of Twilight.
And you know a definition of a word means nothing without the practical examples proving the Twilight itself somehow sparred him.
Lol what are you on about now? So let me get this straight; Ganondorf gave Zant power, so that means Ganondorf now gains immunity from the Fused Shadows with are above both the amped Zant and Twilight? Well that makes sense..
Guess this is where we herpderp and remind the floor of whom the Twilight Princess is.
Is Ganondorf the Twilight Princess? No? Shocking.
Thank you. The magic within Dorf resisted death to that level. Magically induced, stabbed, via bullet wound, a brutal beating, burnt crispy... either way, and you said it yourself, what was resisted was the body being totalled with death.
1. This is a sum up of known facts to draw a conclusion. For instance; Fact, the spell can and has been blocked.
2. So? A character with mind control powers can be shown in his verse that no one can resist him, because they can't. Now does that mean a character who has resisted it couldn't resist him, just because none of the featless people have? No, the second will resist. If a character (not saying Dorf, just generalization) has proven to resist a form of death, they would fair well against a death curse unless the feats speak in its favour.
3. Has. Gave you the list. Go back and read it if you've forgotten. Now what was the point? Right, AK. Yes, AK has never been shown to kill someone with defences.
4. Unlike Midna, Dorf isn't the Twilight Princess the Fused Shadows specifically chose to give power to. Fact remains.
5. "and was resisting Twilights affect, just as the other Triforce wielders have proven." Way to miss another point.
6. Something you've both failed to and refused to give evidence for. Not forgetting this until you prove it. Get on it.
7. Resisted death. Literally was just saying this. Why are you parroting me?
Explain how the Mirror is a magically afflicting spell. Would like to see that. And citing the Master Sword? The weapon that has throughout LoZ history been proven to be an incredibility strong artefact with its main focus coming from its holy, anti-evil power? Sorry, what was the point in mentioning the Sword again?
You agree it kills who it hits so you concede the argument. Wonderful.
They were of a mutual dependence. That fits the definition perfectly for a symbiotic relationship. Who cares if either is manipulating they are both getting what they wanted and it fits the definition.
You have no examples. Perfect. You have no evidence at all. I do.
Ganondorf isn't effected from the power he is lending Zant to enact his spells. Spell is also designed to target Hylians who depend on light.
Originally posted by quanchi112The clip shows this is a non feat for Midna due to her nature touching the fused shadows. I already posted this noob.
By your own video the fused shadows are only harmful by nature to the beings who remain in the light so not Midna or Ganondorf.3:05 in the video. Thanks for the assist. No feat for Dorf or even Midna since she doesn't dwell in the light.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=roxTF3lUmOc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DroxTF3lUmOc
Zelda is getting ethered.
His nature is darker so it isn't corrupting him since he is already corrupt. 🙂
He resisted a natural death due to a wound not a magical spell which induces death.
1. By wizards with superior reflexes than Dorf and abilities. Apples and oranges.
2. No, they'd have to resist specific magic. Voldemort was immortal but the spell can kill him. It is a magical death.
3. False. It killed an immortal. Dorf has no defenses against specific magic. Looks at the mirror and the master sword.
4. They also corrupt those beings aka good guys not the Twili people or evil guys.
5. Who was resisting ?
6. Failed to prove what ? What specifically ?
7. A natural death due to a wound not a specifically induced magical death.
IT PHYSICALLY transports you into another realm. Sword dispelled his magic. That's all. Specific magic worked as did the mirror.
Cumstain? I do believe I've gotten under your skin.. though the insults could do with some work.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You agree it kills who it hits so you concede the argument. Wonderful.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They were of a mutual dependence. That fits the definition perfectly for a symbiotic relationship. Who cares if either is manipulating they are both getting what they wanted and it fits the definition.You have no examples. Perfect. You have no evidence at all. I do.
Ganondorf isn't effected from the power he is lending Zant to enact his spells. Spell is also designed to target Hylians who depend on light.
Bring me evidence that the moon does not exist. Just like that its meaningless. Also deflection, bring me proof that Twilight itself spares him. Keep in mind, Twilight was not created by Dorf, and we all know Dorf is still vulnerable to his own magic.
Lol its not a spell nor is it targeting Hylians.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The clip shows this is a non feat for Midna due to her nature touching the fused shadows. I already posted this noob.His nature is darker so it isn't corrupting him since he is already corrupt.
If I said that to you, you'd say its the words of a fanboy.. What bothers me is that you know the TF has actively protected Link and Zelda, but will refuse it for Dorf.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He resisted a natural death due to a wound not a magical spell which induces death.1. By wizards with superior reflexes than Dorf and abilities. Apples and oranges.
2. No, they'd have to resist specific magic. Voldemort was immortal but the spell can kill him. It is a magical death.
3. False. It killed an immortal. Dorf has no defenses against specific magic. Looks at the mirror and the master sword.
4. They also corrupt those beings aka good guys not the Twili people or evil guys.
5. Who was resisting ?
6. Failed to prove what ? What specifically ?
7. A natural death due to a wound not a specifically induced magical death.
IT PHYSICALLY transports you into another realm. Sword dispelled his magic. That's all. Specific magic worked as did the mirror.
How does that not sound like death resistance to you? Especially as the wound was ignored.
1. Confirmation, good. So a fact.
2. Next you'll be telling me a character has to specifically resist HP verses AK to count as resistance 😐 You're using the wrong label for 'immortal'. And as you don't know the specifics of AKs powers, you cant say much.
3. Lol wrong type of immortal. If Tom was shot in the head, this immortal would still die.. well that part would. IF it killed a higher level immortal (with regen, protection, or true immortality) then its impressive. Yep, already listed three types.
4. Shadow Beasts are corrupted Twili. Bulbins and Babas also lost it. Its not a biased thing.
5. Dorf, Zelda, Link.
6. You keep saying the arrows are purely physical without any holy light afflicting powers on it. Even though that's exactly what the Spirits do, and what Zelda specifically asked for, and also what we see with its energy on Dorf.
7. How is that not resisting death? Who says you need the exact specific type?
It transported him.. point? Zelda and Link were transported yet its known as a fact that the TF still protects them from Twilight. Forgot about 'top level sacred anti-evil'. What specific magic..?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It didn't and she had a weakness.
Ganondorf has a weakness.
When did the arrows on video banish them ?
http://youtu.be/cWlJ2Zk62rU?t=2m58s
He isn't immune to force no. There is a clear difference in that though.Nah.
It outright proves he isn't immune to the Fused Shadows.
Originally posted by quanchi112
By your own video the fused shadows are only harmful by nature to the beings who remain in the light so not Midna or Ganondorf.3:05 in the video. Thanks for the assist. No feat for Dorf or even Midna since she doesn't dwell in the light.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=roxTF3lUmOc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DroxTF3lUmOc
Zelda is getting ethered.
Ganondorf is from the World of Light. Congrats on shooting your own argument in the foot though.
Originally posted by The ScenarioGanondorf is the King of the darkness and dabbles in black magic. His nature isn't a good natured being from the world of the light which was the point. You missed it as always.
Ganondorf has a weakness.http://youtu.be/cWlJ2Zk62rU?t=2m58s
It outright proves he isn't immune to the Fused Shadows.
Ganondorf is from the World of Light. Congrats on shooting your own argument in the foot though.
The Fused Shadows wouldn't corrupt him or Midna. There goes that feat. You guys and your silly myths.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Cumstain? I do believe I've gotten under your skin.. though the insults could do with some work."Summed up: It kills those it hits, [b]though its proven that protections do in fact exists.
"Yeah, Dorf gets out and gets a puppet. Big deal, he literally creates those with a snap of his finger. I could list a ton of words it matches up to, meaningless. What has meaning is saying 'why' this gives Dorf immunity.
Bring me evidence that the moon does not exist. Just like that its meaningless. Also deflection, bring me proof that Twilight itself spares him. Keep in mind, Twilight was not created by Dorf, and we all know Dorf is still vulnerable to his own magic.
Lol its not a spell nor is it targeting Hylians.
Thats actually my point.. its not a feat for Midna, she's the exception.
If I said that to you, you'd say its the words of a fanboy.. What bothers me is that you know the TF has actively protected Link and Zelda, but will refuse it for Dorf.
How does that not sound like death resistance to you? Especially as the wound was ignored.
1. Confirmation, good. So a fact.
2. Next you'll be telling me a character has to specifically resist HP verses AK to count as resistance 😐 You're using the wrong label for 'immortal'. And as you don't know the specifics of AKs powers, you cant say much.
3. Lol wrong type of immortal. If Tom was shot in the head, this immortal would still die.. well that part would. IF it killed a higher level immortal (with regen, protection, or true immortality) then its impressive. Yep, already listed three types.
4. Shadow Beasts are corrupted Twili. Bulbins and Babas also lost it. Its not a biased thing.
5. Dorf, Zelda, Link.
6. You keep saying the arrows are purely physical without any holy light afflicting powers on it. Even though that's exactly what the Spirits do, and what Zelda specifically asked for, and also what we see with its energy on Dorf.
7. How is that not resisting death? Who says you need the exact specific type?
It transported him.. point? Zelda and Link were transported yet its known as a fact that the TF still protects them from Twilight. Forgot about 'top level sacred anti-evil'. What specific magic..? [/B]
It kills who it hits. Ganondorf dies when it strikes him since no one can sacrifice his or herself for him. 🙂
You said prove he has a symbiotic relationship. I did. That's why you're a troll because you won't acknowledge a fact.
You have no proof the spell was used against him to turn him into a helpless spirit so who cares. Targeting people without powers for the most part. Like its some awesome feat or something. They are t equipped or even aware of what is occurring.
So basically those who have powers are the exception and those who don't fall victim. And this is supposed to be impressive ? Do you even hear half the dumb shit you say ?
Not of a magical death of a wound which causes death. Entirely different.
1. Concession accepted.
2. The word immortal is exactly the correct word as you don't ever die of old age. That is exactly what an immortal is. Dorf has been bested by specific magic before.
3. Immortal doesn't mean unkillable. Practically every immortal who is unkillable can still be killed. Quit trying to use your narrow minded definition here.
4. This has nothing to do with the fused shadows though.
5. So anyone with powers, not impressed.
6. It is just a force though. There is no specific point other than to hurt like any magical force.
7. When a magically induced power came into play Dorf died. 😆
Ms killed him.
Anyone with powers can resist but the random idiots aka citizens fall victim but this spell destroys any other universe just because you idiots believe so despite the lack of evidence. Unbelievable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ganondorf is the King of the darkness and dabbles in black magic. His nature isn't a good natured being from the world of the light which was the point. You missed it as always.
"Good natured" is irrelevant and not stated anywhere in game. The only criteria is being from the World of Light, which Ganondorf is. Are you claiming that Ganondorf is not from the world of light?
The Fused Shadows wouldn't corrupt him or Midna. There goes that feat. You guys and your silly myths.
What happened to your argument that Midna was affected because she got more aggressive? If they have feats of affecting characters they shouldn't, it's just that much more impressive that Ganondorf resisted.
Originally posted by The ScenarioYou claimed thr triforce protects them so even according to you it isn't a feat. Citizens don't have any powers or protection from anything aka nothings. My point proved it already.
"Good natured" is irrelevant and not stated anywhere in game. The only criteria is being from the World of Light, which Ganondorf is. Are you claiming that Ganondorf is not from the world of light?What happened to your argument that Midna was affected because she got more aggressive? If they have feats of affecting characters they shouldn't, it's just that much more impressive that Ganondorf resisted.
Dorf's nature and he had powers which the others had as well. Who did it change who had powers ?
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I mean this is getting rather pitiful.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed thr triforce protects them so even according to you it isn't a feat. Citizens don't have any powers or protection from anything aka nothings. My point proved it already.
Um, no? Yes, the Triforce of Power protects Ganondorf, how does that make it not a feat? That's pretty much what I've been claiming the whole time.
Dorf's nature and he had powers which the others had as well. Who did it change who had powers ?😂
I mean this is getting rather pitiful.
Uh, Midna? As per your earlier argument?
Originally posted by The ScenarioIt never was used against him and the only people it worked against had no powers of any kind.
Um, no? Yes, the Triforce of Power protects Ganondorf, how does that make it not a feat? That's pretty much what I've been claiming the whole time.Uh, Midna? As per your earlier argument?
It is like showing super heroes kill random people and proclaiming how badass they are.
Zant specifically changed her. Twilight wouldn't work on her to turn her into a helpless spirit since she is from Twilight. No person with any powers was turned into a helpless spirit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It never was used against him and the only people it worked against had no powers of any kind.
Yes it was, Midna did it twice. You realize we're talking about the Fused Shadows, right?
It is like showing super heroes kill random people and proclaiming how badass they are.
Like AK killing random people so it must be so badass, right?
Zant specifically changed her. Twilight wouldn't work on her to turn her into a helpless spirit since she is from Twilight. No person with any powers was turned into a helpless spirit.
We're talking about Fused Shadows, remember?
Originally posted by The ScenarioDid what twice ?
Yes it was, Midna did it twice. You realize we're talking about the Fused Shadows, right?Like AK killing random people so it must be so badass, right?
We're talking about Fused Shadows, remember?
Killed wizards. Wizards have powers. 😂
Yes, that is different than the specific spell which only works when the circumstances are right.
