Originally posted by ScreamPasteProbably because it wasn't a direct hit with the bladed edge of the axe. Regardless of your Link wanking let your opponent hit you with the axe after the scene and tell me if it hurts Link at all. if it does then I have backed my claim that he isn't immune.
You mean like he did in that scene and was [b]unhurt by? Someone with Achilles' strength would break his own arm before hurting Link with an axe. [/B]
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I have proven Link is durable. Durable things require strength to hurt. Achilles lacks sufficient strength. Q.E.D.Answer the question Quan, do the boots make Link stronger? Yes or no?
You will answer yes or no, or you won't receive the attention you so crave, it's that simple.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThe boots make the feat possible. Without them he can't even interact with the Gorons. The game makes it crystal clear without them neither he nor Bo can best them. Now quit asking the same questions I have answered already.
Not answering then? Concession accepted.Just in time, too. I'm going to see Testament. 🙂
Originally posted by ScreamPasteDon't threaten me I am an alpha male. Neither Bo nor Link were portrayed as super strong in the games just strong enough. If Link was super strong he'd annihilate his foes or be on another level due to super strength but he was not.
I didn't ask if they make it possible, cockwit.Do they make him stronger? Yes or no?
This is your last chance, boyo. **** it up again and you cease being amusing and start being depressing. I don't socialize with people who depress me.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is more battle aware so he wouldn't be caught that off guard by himself. he isn't tending to some woman so he will be focusing unlike Link.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Lots of characters can't do the same thing as he did. Take Russell Crow's character from the Gladiator. He is awesome in battle ye he didn't ride into battle with the same sense of awe Achilles did. Achilles stormed the beach before his massive army all docked and he still took it easily.
Another example would be SS Link dashing head on into about 50+ armed monsters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Link doesn't have anything close to the battle awareness seen by Achilles. That's the point. We see it multiple times I mean the guy gets put on his ass from that huge snow creature or whatever iirc in a canon scene. Just a clumsy, awkward hero without the ability to speak.
And you know that when you start with the character-personal jabs it seems like you're hating on Link, right?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It gives him different abilities than his human form.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Achilles is taking on a massive army. In Hyrule there is no massive army and never does Link take the opposition on in huge numbers directly. Link has supernatural help which helps him defeat his enemies. Achilles needs no help destroying his enemies only when their numbers greatly outnumber him. Link uses her help against a single foe.There's a difference with two stupid monsters fighting you than a beach spawned army shooting arrows at you and spears while you are fighting warriors all around you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is strong enough for the tasks set before him but never does he just show a superior strength to just dominating his opponents with his sword. There's a reason he masters the techniques he needs his skill to get him through. He isn't portrayed as this super strong you can't **** with me kind of guy like a Russell Edgington.
Very confusing. If Link isnt strong then these 'mastered techniques' would have to compensate for that to defeat the monsters and things he defeats. Kinda goes against him not being skilled.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I could care less what you classify him as. It has no relevance here since he can kill Link. His skill is also far greater than Link's in the game.
Originally posted by BloodRainI am saying he seems to be more aware in general of his enemies than Link is. Link also had a companion who was aimed at defeating zant to double fail on Link's behalf.
So youre saying that he wouldn't be caught off guard by an invisible force? That his focus would let him defend from a shockwave he cant see? C'mon, Link getting knocked back by a telekinetic blast means nothing against him, less so compared to Achilles who has nothing to suggest he could do anything here.What about lets say any martial arts film with a human protag. I remember hearing several pros saying just how difficult it would be to take on several foes, but these guys can take on dozens of guys at once. You Chan's, Lee's, Li's, Jaa's.. Noland's Batman.. Eizo&Connor from Assassins Creed.. All action protagonists take on several people at once and they're never taken as above human limits in their combat.. Achilles did nothing that any other action hero hasn't done a million times.
There are other guys with battle awareness beyond Link. I am glad you agree. Most of the action heroes do things real life people cannot do thus making them superhuman. To suggest otherwise is well ridiculous. Deja Vu.
That Link isn't in this thread so please stop breaking the rules because you really like the Zelda universe.
Another example would be SS Link dashing head on into about 50+ armed monsters.You tell me how being battle aware would allow you to react to a force push and maybe Ill see what you mean. The worlds greatest martial arts master would get knocked aside if a guy standing in front of him released a shockwave from his body. So you tell me exactly what Achilles would do.[/B]
Throw a spear into his foe before they pushed him.
Link is a stupid character. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
And you know that when you start with the character-personal jabs it seems like you're hating on Link, right?Yeah.. faster dashing which is useless in a fight, weaker attacks, less manoeuvrability in a fight, no access to skills/techniques/items/range, no shield.. tell me again why he'd choose this form?[/B]
Against an army; yes. More than two since we see him taking on multiple foes and warding off a spear and an arrow. All of this is taking place in succession from a multitude of different directions to boot.
..so he needed help then? When Link has his sword drawn when does he get assistance?
And youre looking at his feat in a broad sense. Sure he killed 20 people, but how many were around him/targeting him at a time? Two. About two at a time. How is taking on two people at a time some awe-inspiring thing?No he's strong enough because he's strong. Remember when Scenario posted that link to the creator stating that Link is superhumanly strong? Creator portrayal.[/B]
I agree he is superhumanly strong. He isn't strong to the point most are suggesting in his fights. It doesn't translate over into his portrayal.
He is skilled but not to the point of Achilles. That isn't a knock on Link's skill it's just he's no Achilles. Link is strong but not to the point of a Russell Edgington who was portrayed as vastly stronger than his foes. That's not a knock against his strength either.
Very confusing. If Link isnt strong then these 'mastered techniques' would have to compensate for that to defeat the monsters and things he defeats. Kinda goes against him not being skilled.Your proof for Achilles being more skilled so far has been him defeating two guys at a time. Your proof that Link has less skill is.. nothing so far. [/B]
Achilles taking over a beachhead with a fraction of his force. Achilles' leadership and skill accomplished the task.
Strange, I seem to recall you being scared of a simple question, and now your posturing, acting like it's not your own fault I've gotten bored. Cute.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I have proven Link is durable. Durable things require strength to hurt. Achilles lacks sufficient strength. Q.E.D.Answer the question Quan, do the boots make Link stronger? Yes or no?
You will answer yes or no, or you won't receive the attention you so crave, it's that simple.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what swrod fights are you basing this off of ?Quit obsessing over the boots I have answered these questions a thousand times over.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not answering then? Concession accepted.Just in time, too. I'm going to see Testament. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
The boots make the feat possible. Without them he can't even interact with the Gorons. The game makes it crystal clear without them neither he nor Bo can best them. Now quit asking the same questions I have answered already.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You avoided it again.Do. They. Make. Him. [b]Stronger?
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Irrelevant. They make the feat possible. What's funny is some old goon also did so with the boots.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I didn't ask if they make it possible, cockwit.Do they make him stronger? Yes or no?
This is your last chance, boyo. **** it up again and you cease being amusing and start being depressing. I don't socialize with people who depress me.
Look how many chances I gave you, Quan. Oh, and then this gem.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Don't threaten me I am an alpha male. Neither Bo nor Link were portrayed as super strong in the games just strong enough. If Link was super strong he'd annihilate his foes or be on another level due to super strength but he was not.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Two things.First, I laughed.
Second, [b]concession accepted.
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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link is class 100+ to an undeniable degree. You'll note that class 100+ includes everyone who can lift from 101 tons over their head to things like Hulk, and beyond.
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Did I really miss THAT much in the gaming world these past 20 years?
Since when does Link, of ALL people, have the physical strength to lift over one hundred TONS of weight???