Achilles(Troy) vs. Link(TP) in a sword fight

Started by Dolos13 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
I can tell you are playing it off like you were but I know better.

No, I really believe you're a racist based on one stereotypical comment; as a scientist believes in gravity based on empirical evidence.

You see my intuition approaches precognition. 👆

Originally posted by Dolos
No, I really believe you're a racist based on one stereotypical comment; as a scientist believes in gravity based on imperical evidence.

You see my intuition approaches precognition. 👆

It's empirical evidence just so you know.

Do you favor or believe the Star wars badasses of the big screen can beat let's say Albus or Voldemort for a majority ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's empirical evidence just so you know.

Do you favor or believe the Star wars badasses of the big screen can beat let's say Albus or Voldemort for a majority ?

I missed out on the whole Harry Potter franchise. LOTR, The Matrix and Star Wars won me over as a kid. After which I stopped watching fantasy films of the sort. Missed out on the Twilight franchise as well.

Originally posted by Dolos
I missed out on the whole Harry Potter franchise. LOTR, The Matrix and Star Wars won me over as a kid. After which I stopped watching fantasy films of the sort. Missed out on the Twilight franchise as well.
You missed out on Lord Voldemort. You sicken me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You sicken me.

Good.

Originally posted by Dolos
Good.
That's not a good thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not a good thing.

It is if it means less conversing between the two of us.

😛

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Originally posted by Dolos
It does if it means less conversing between the two of us.

😛

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I do inspire fear in my enemies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do inspire fear in my enemies.

Yeah sure, that's what it is.

That's why everyone in this thread has chosen to stop arguing with you. They understand how thick scary you are.

👆

Oh dear God what sin did we blight this Earth with to deserve such a punishment as a meeting like this?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Oh dear God what sin did we blight this Earth with to deserve such a punishment as a meeting like this?

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think he'd be unaware of what was going on at that time. His battle awareness was legendary. You saw the clip. The guy was knocking spears out of the air while blocking arrows behind his back casually.

Yeah that didnt really answer my question..

Can Achilles.. react.. to an invisible force shockwave. And if show present something that says why.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying Link's awareness skills are shit compared to Achilles who has to do with stimuli all over the battlefield.

Based on what are Link's awareness skills shit in comparison? Achilles was impressive but show me an action film where the character cant do the same thing.

Even less to the point is that this has nothing to do with reacting to an untelegraphed, unseen shockwave.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Achilles doesn't use a supernatural character or a wolf like body either. Achilles doesn't use small armies against foes. Achilles fights one on one. Achilles took over the beach with a small amount of men. The guy's in another league than Hyrule which army is like a joke.

Achilles had to deal with an army. Link never has to deal with all that stimuli coming at him from all angles. Link also has Midna around to help him.

Unless you think that his wolf form is better in a fight than his human form :/ and further think that he'd used that form all the time.

"Achilles fights one on one. Achilles took over the beach with a small amount of men."
So he needed help? Hey if you say Mida helps Link in combat based on maybe one instance when only in his wolf form, then Achilles gets help from the small army to fight the numbers.

Weapon-wise there isnt much of a difference. Foe wise there is; Achilles takes on 20 humans at must 2 at a time with a small army behind him.. Link takes on hordes of monsters ganging up on him. Link fights monsters more than 2 v 1.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link isn't portrayed as superior to his foes with strength. Russell is. Link has to use the right skill or strike or weapon to win. He doesn't just overpower his foes into submission. Russell was portrayed as in another lreague against superhumanly strong opponents.

You agree he is a superhuman so concession accepted. You are progressing wonderfully. To easily cut the gold statue in half that is pretty much superior to human beings limits.

Yes because Link's never had a contest of strength before or needed strength to do certain things.

..Okay listen to my words one more time; "Thats what a peak human in fiction is." In real life Achilles would be a superhuman just based on having peak strength and speed at the same time.. but having both of those together is classed as just peak human in fiction. So like I said, everything about him is peak human apart from his strength which is low superhuman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You'd have to prove Link is immune to a sword. You also have no proof that Link used his freakish strength to overpower his enemies.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Link's immune to swords being used by people below a certain strength level. Achilles is [b]far beneath that level.
YouTube video

Here he shoots arrows with enough force to destroy a diamond/gem, and then proves himself not only capable of moving Fyrus' multi-ton mass, but overpowering him to pull his feet out from under him.

YouTube video Here Link stops Dangoro's 60-ish ton mass in motion without being crushed or even harmed, then lifts and throws him like a ragdoll.

This is the beginning of Link's quest, while he's still so weak that OoT Link considers him 'unworthy of the proud green of the tunic he wears'. haermm

You done? [/B]


YouTube video

Come again?

haermm Oh shit I can't ever remember ever seeing that scene.

Tanking an axe to the face from a guy that can oneshot massive beasts? Yeah...

Originally posted by BloodRain
haermm Oh shit I can't ever remember ever seeing that scene.

Tanking an axe to the face from a guy that can oneshot massive beasts? Yeah...


Indeed.

Quan's still avoiding my question; I wonder if Quan thinks the boots make Link more durable, too?

Originally posted by Dolos
Yeah sure, that's what it is.

That's why everyone in this thread has chosen to stop arguing with you. They understand how thick scary you are.

👆

Beaten into submission. If you haven't noticed there are people still responding to my arguments. Most are weak willed and run to bed rather than face me.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
YouTube video

Come again?

I already responded to this in depth. You aren't debating.
Originally posted by BloodRain
haermm Oh shit I can't ever remember ever seeing that scene.

Tanking an axe to the face from a guy that can oneshot massive beasts? Yeah...

Surviving a car crash with the force involved doesn't mean you are immune to punches either. Let that guy hit you with the axe right after and you're going to die. The point is he isn't immune to axes or any sharp weapons. That's a fact.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yeah that didnt really answer my question..

Can Achilles.. react.. to an [b]invisible force shockwave. And if show present something that says why.[/B]

He is more battle aware so he wouldn't be caught that off guard by himself. he isn't tending to some woman so he will be focusing unlike Link.


Based on what are Link's awareness skills shit in comparison? Achilles was impressive but show me an action film where the character cant do the same thing.[/B]
Lots of characters can't do the same thing as he did. Take Russell Crow's character from the Gladiator. He is awesome in battle ye he didn't ride into battle with the same sense of awe Achilles did. Achilles stormed the beach before his massive army all docked and he still took it easily.

Even less to the point is that this has nothing to do with reacting to an untelegraphed, unseen shockwave.[/B]
Link doesn't have anything close to the battle awareness seen by Achilles. That's the point. We see it multiple times I mean the guy gets put on his ass from that huge snow creature or whatever iirc in a canon scene. Just a clumsy, awkward hero without the ability to speak.

Unless you think that his wolf form is better in a fight than his human form :/ and further think that he'd used that form all the time.[/B]

It gives him different abilities than his human form.

"Achilles fights one on one. Achilles took over the beach with a small amount of men."
So he needed help? Hey if you say Mida helps Link in combat based on maybe one instance when only in his wolf form, then Achilles gets help from the small army to fight the numbers.[/B]
Achilles is taking on a massive army. In Hyrule there is no massive army and never does Link take the opposition on in huge numbers directly. Link has supernatural help which helps him defeat his enemies. Achilles needs no help destroying his enemies only when their numbers greatly outnumber him. Link uses her help against a single foe.

Weapon-wise there isnt much of a difference. Foe wise there is; Achilles takes on 20 humans at must 2 at a time with a small army behind him.. Link takes on hordes of monsters ganging up on him. Link fights monsters more than 2 v 1.[/B]
There's a difference with two stupid monsters fighting you than a beach spawned army shooting arrows at you and spears while you are fighting warriors all around you.


Yes because Link's never had a contest of strength before or needed strength to do certain things.[/B]
He is strong enough for the tasks set before him but never does he just show a superior strength to just dominating his opponents with his sword. There's a reason he masters the techniques he needs his skill to get him through. He isn't portrayed as this super strong you can't **** with me kind of guy like a Russell Edgington.

..Okay listen to my words one more time; "Thats what a peak human in fiction is." In real life Achilles would be a superhuman just based on having peak strength and speed at the same time.. but having both of those together is classed as just peak human in fiction. So like I said, everything about him is peak human apart from his strength which is low superhuman. [/B]
I could care less what you classify him as. It has no relevance here since he can kill Link. His skill is also far greater than Link's in the game.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already responded to this in depth. You aren't debating.

Surviving a car crash with the force involved doesn't mean you are immune to punches either.


Go ahead, rationalize how that's not a durability feat.

Cars have seatbelts, airbags, and brakes. There are no brakes on the Link-Train.

link-rape

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Go ahead, rationalize how that's not a durability feat.

Cars have seatbelts, airbags, and brakes. There are no brakes on the Link-Train.

link-rape

It all depends on where the blade hits you and how your body was reacting at the time. If Link just stood there and let someone hit him with an axe; would he live ?

The same goes for the car it depends on the movement of your body ie. that you don't tense up and what not. It doesn't mean you are immune to far less force in that of a punch.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It all depends on where the blade hits you and how your body was reacting at the time. If Link just stood there and let someone hit him with an axe; would he live ?

The same goes for the car it depends on the movement of your body ie. that you don't tense up and what not. It doesn't mean you are immune to far less force in that of a punch.

You mean like he did in that scene and was unhurt by? Someone with Achilles' strength would break his own arm before hurting Link with an axe.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I have proven Link is durable. Durable things require strength to hurt. Achilles lacks sufficient strength. Q.E.D.

Answer the question Quan, do the boots make Link stronger? Yes or no?

You will answer yes or no, or you won't receive the attention you so crave, it's that simple.