Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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There we go. I'll take a livestream of you surrendering your life please.
This guy right here (bran), is amazing.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
well, you're wrong, and both Carver and Mindset were here to witness ithttp://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/423735055064526618
http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/423735048718548767
http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/422506670334171231
http://www.formspring.me/JonathanHickman/q/422506643889092662
There we go. I'll take a livestream of you surrendering your life please.
Dude you're wrong,
Just check out what Reed Says.
" That Earth is like an island breaking the surface of an ocean"
and
" he is literally pushing an entire universe hidden from us".
This further proves that the earth was not a representation of the universe in this comic.
Per Reed, the Earth is like an Island, the hidden universe is the Ocean. He can see the earth getting pushed back but not the universe which is hidden. Cap with the IG was pushing the entire universe not just the planet, nor was the planet a representation of the universe.
Similar differentiation was made between the earth and the universe in the hyperion comic.
It was clearly stated that he tried to hold the 2 earths apart but they broke which caused the universe to collapse.
This is Superman Prime, far more powerful than normal Post-Crisis Superman.
Besides, Hyperion is a new development - give Superman 52 some time to rebuild all of Supes post-crisis continuity and I bet he's been given a boost. Hell, post-crisis has better feats than pre-crisis in some areas, just in less areas. Superman is a walking Dues Ex Machina, I think the writers acknowledge that he was the first, and thus must to retain Alpha-masculine status, Superman is the standard and in the past when Marvel pushed...i.e. Sentry...the writers pushed back and Superman still is on top.
Originally posted by DiesldudeThat doesn't make a lick of sense. The incursion didn't suddenly change in the way it happened just because the words were different.
Dude you're wrong,
Just check out what Reed Says.
" That Earth is like an island breaking the surface of an ocean"
and
" he is literally pushing an entire universe hidden from us".This further proves that the earth was not a representation of the universe in this comic.
Per Reed, the Earth is like an Island, the hidden universe is the Ocean. He can see the earth getting pushed back but not the universe which is hidden. Cap with the IG was pushing the entire universe not just the planet, nor was the planet a representation of the universe.
This is much different from what was stated in the comic with Hyperion.
It was clearly stated that he tried to hold the 2 earths apart but they broke which caused the universe to collapse.
Also, the Earth is like an island breaking the surface means that that was all they could see, but it represented much more.
Hell, Reed used "the other Earth - the other universe - away."
The Earth represented a universe, as confirmed by Hickman himself when he said Hype failed, Cap didn't in the universe feat.
Twisting words game doesn't work when the writer confirms it bucko.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I agree, Hyperion is a monster especially if you consider what he did.2 shot the hulk, something that an amped Zeus failed to do.
So it's
Hyperion > Zeus > _____ . Carver i'll leave it to you to fill in the blank.LOL .
No Hyperion is not Skyfather, he's trans herald, back when Superman Prime was the buzz there was no "trans"; it was just High Herald...Prime would be considered trans as well, and at this rate 2011- Superman as well. 👆
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That doesn't make a lick of sense. The incursion didn't suddenly change in the way it happened just because the words were different.
Also, that would mean that the universe is supposed to be ignored in the Hype feat, and then all of the sudden it jumps out of nowhere and says "Hey, I just got here suddenly, watch me explode" when the Earth (universe) breaks apart. Cap pushed the other universe safely away. Hype stalled the universe until it broke apart around him... with one hand.Also, the Earth is like an island breaking the surface means that that was all they could see, but it represented much more.
Hell, Reed used "the other Earth - the other universe - away."The Earth represented a universe, as confirmed by Hickman himself when he said Hype failed, Cap didn't in the universe feat.
Twisting words game doesn't work when the writer confirms it bucko.
3 - It was clearly stated that Hyperion held the 2 earths from colliding before they broke under the pressure. the universe didn't break, the planets broke under the pressure, the universe died as a cascading result of the earths breaking.
There is no twisting of the words.
Originally posted by DiesldudeYou are ignoring them where he confirms it
1 - You are using ambiguous one sentence replies on twitter to counter on panel explanation.
2 - If you check the star brand Vs IG thread, everyone there was thinking that hickman referred to cap when he said cap failed the IG didn't.3 - It was clearly stated that Hyperion held the 2 earths from colliding before they broke under the pressure. the universe didn't break, the planets broke under the pressure, the universe died as a cascading result of the earths breaking.
There is no twisting of the words.
That would be ignoring the Hype part. Everyone who's right (Team Right) knows he was referring to Hype.
Steve didn't fail either in the context of the question, as the question never talked about the gems exploding (like the universes Hype survived). The Gems didn't fail. Hype did. Simple pimple.
2 Earths that represented universes.
A massive twisting of words. You're ignoring that even if you're right (that the Earth is just an island in an ocean) that the universe would be directly behind it just like it would have been behind the Earth in the Cap case (if you're right). IE, it still equals out to a universe.
The only way it wouldn't have been a universe Hype was trying to fist into place, is if the universe jumped out of nowhere like a spooky ghost as soon as the planets touched. Which is wrong as per Cap pushing it away.
Now if you'll excuse me, this representation of Team Right has to beat off, another representative will be with you shortly.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You are ignoring them where he confirms it
The on panel would have been an explanation had NA 3 never came out and confirmed that the Earth's represented universe... and then Hickman double confirmed it.
Just because it didn't go in depth, doesn't mean we ignore the part where they did actually go in depth.
Let's take an example close to your heart. Superman vs Superman in IC. Now in the main title, the battle with Kal-L, and homo never stated that reality was being effected from their punches. Does that mean that just a car was destroyed? Not if we go by tie-ins where we get explanations that reality was being sodomized. It's not a retcon, the IC comic wasn't wrong. Just that another comic went more into details and you Superman fellers are happier for it.
And the Hype example is like that (under the same writer too). We got a look at where Hype came from and why, and then we get an explanation of just wtf actually happens when an Earth starts ramming his dickhole into another Earth. It's actually a universe ramburgling another universe with Earth serving as its spirit guide.That would be ignoring the Hype part. Everyone who's right (Team Right) knows he was referring to Hype.
Steve didn't fail either in the context of the question, as the question never talked about the gems exploding (like the universes Hype survived). The Gems didn't fail. Hype did. Simple pimple.2 Earths that represented universes.
A massive twisting of words. You're ignoring that even if you're right (that the Earth is just an island in an ocean) that the universe would be directly behind it just like it would have been behind the Earth in the Cap case (if you're right). IE, it still equals out to a universe.
The only way it wouldn't have been a universe Hype was trying to fist into place, is if the universe jumped out of nowhere like a spooky ghost as soon as the planets touched. Which is wrong as per Cap pushing it away.
Now if you'll excuse me, this representation of Team Right has to beat off, another representative will be with you shortly.
It's obvious even you don't believe that chit and are just trolling.
I'll play along...
you are using 2 different comics but they both differentiated between universe and the earth.
According to Reed The Earth was visible, the universe not. clear distinction.
2 planets broke because hyperion tried to hold them apart, which resulted in them breaking. This caused a cascading affect to kill the universe.
But you rather take the words of the writer(unverified id) on twitter who was in all likelihood trolling. Just look at his responses, form the links you supplied.
1 - "he failed Gems didn't"
2 - "yes" <- LOL this is in reply to the dude who asked if he was missing something.. when after he said that hyperion survived 2 universes exploding on him. Sure enough he was missing something.
3 - "There you go" - to the same dude.
4 - "Those golden big boy pants."
Now how do these troll posts on twitter prove that the earth = universe?