The Mad Celestials vs Tiamut/Exitar/Arishem/Ziran

Originally posted by Slaanesh
being more powerful than the entire 4th host combine..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
the UN is capable of universal destruction..that feat just seems stupid.

And afterward Eson was none the worse for wear:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15161675/2.jpg.html

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Heck, even a random/no-name Mad Celestial tanked a blast from the UN at the beginning of the arc:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15161676/3.jpg.html

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
How many Mad Celestials are there in this thread? Is it just the 4 that fought Galactus/Franklin, or the whole race that attacked the Council?

Only a few 🙂

^How many?

I said four earlier. Still have Tiamut"s team winning

Originally posted by Galan007
...And what has any member of the 4th Host done on panel that is superior to one-shotting(possibly killing) Galactus amped by 4 worlds, with a casual hand-blast? I'm asking a legit question here; there may very well be a feat I am unaware of.

Originally posted by Galan007
...And what has any member of the 4th Host done on panel that is superior to one-shotting(possibly killing) Galactus amped by 4 worlds, with a casual hand-blast? I'm asking a legit question here; there may very well be a feat I am unaware of.

This might be your opinion, but it is still fact that the [nullification] energies from the UN physically struck Eson:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15161674/1.jpg.html

And afterward Eson was none the worse for wear:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15161675/2.jpg.html

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Heck, even a random/no-name Mad Celestial tanked a blast from the UN at the beginning of the arc:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15161676/3.jpg.html

none of the mad Celestials can oneshot Galactus..they got beat up by him..only the Voltron Celestial oneshotted Galactus..so i don't think i need to give an example of the 4th host oneshotting Galactus cuz that's impossible..the writer says those mad Celestials are at least equal to their 616 counterpart..so Exitar being more powerful than the entire 4th host combine kinda make me think he's about equal to the voltron Celestial..

well..if u look at those reed that fire the UN..they kinda have trouble with it..it makes me think that they are not that competent in wielding the UN..it's either that or that feet is kinda stupid cuz they can't even beat Galactus..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
the writer says those mad Celestials are at least equal to their 616 counterpart..so Exitar being more powerful than the entire 4th host combine kinda make me think he's about equal to the voltron Celestial..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
well..if u look at those reed that fire the UN..they kinda have trouble with it..it makes me think that they are not that competent in wielding the UN..it's either that or that feet is kinda stupid cuz they can't even beat Galactus..

...As did the no-name Mad Celestial earlier in the arc.

Originally posted by Galan007
I think it might be possible that Exitar is equal to the mecha Celestial, but it's extremely hard for me to put him on that level when he's got no feats that are remotely comparable to what the mecha Celestial did.... One-shotting a massively amped Galactus with a casual hand-blast is an unbelievably impressive feat. I really can't stress that enough.

Reed was focusing that hard on using the UN because he didn't want to be nullified as well(which was a foolhardy endeavor in the end.) However, that doesn't change the fact that he still blasted Eson with the UN and Eson tanked those nullification energies.

...As did the no-name Mad Celestial earlier in the arc.

i know..that feat is insane..but from my point of view..being more powerful than the entire 4th host combine is insane too..that's why i put them at about equal..unless u believe Galactus can take on the entire 4th host of coz..then i'll understand why u think Exitar can't match the voltron Celestial..

that's why i said it's a stupid feat..if Eson can really tank a true UN blast which is capable of destroying and recreating universe..why the hell can't 4 of them beat Galactus??so i have to assume those UN blast isn't at true power..one of those Reed died after using the UN rite??

Originally posted by Slaanesh
i know..that feat is insane..but from my point of view..being more powerful than the entire 4th host combine is insane too..that's why i put them at about equal..unless u believe Galactus can take on the entire 4th host of coz..then i'll understand why u think Exitar can't match the voltron Celestial..

Do I think Exitar might be able to defeat an amped Galactus? Possibly. Do I think he could do so as effortlessly as Voltron did? No. Exitar has done absolutely nothing on panel indicative of such. Speechification only goes so far.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
that's why i said it's a stupid feat..if Eson can really tank a true UN blast which is capable of destroying and recreating universe..why the hell can't 4 of them beat Galactus??

Originally posted by Slaanesh
so i have to assume those UN blast isn't at true power..one of those Reed died after using the UN rite??

Originally posted by guy222
I said four earlier. Still have Tiamut"s team winning

Good points Galan.
These type of debates aren't usually my cup of tea (I argue heralds the most).
But I know a good argument when I hear one.

Agreed

Mad Celestials form Voltron and defeat the 616 Celestials...

With the 616 Celestials, we have statements which indicate that they may be superior; with the Mad Celestials we have better `feats which point to superiority...

Mad Celestials for the win...

Okay. I will respectfully disagree

Originally posted by Galan007
What is the 4th Host's best feat? Cumulatively(key word) defeating Odin /w/ Destroyer? Given that NINE Celestials comprise the 4th Host, and ALL of them had to attack Odin in unison to win, Exitar being more powerful than them doesn't overtly impress me... Also recall that Exitar had to gather energy for "several thousand years" just to become powerful enough to beat The One(an oversized Watcher.) :/

Do I think Exitar might be able to defeat an amped Galactus? Possibly. Do I think he could do so as effortlessly as Voltron did? No. Exitar has done absolutely nothing on panel indicative of such. Speechification only goes so far.

Because Galactus was amped. Massively.

Your assumption is incorrect. Reed being destroyed when he activated the UN is just a side effect of the UN itself(this has been stated in almost every medium the UN has appeared in.) Either way, the user dying doesn't make the nullification energies in the initial blast any less... Nullify-ie. The UN only fires one type of energy.

if u want feat..i can't give it too u..the 4th host doesn't really have many feat..but the writer says those mad celestial is equal to their 616 counterpart..u do see why i think being more powerful than 9 celestials is impressive rite..9 celestials that is equal to those mad celestials..u probably don't care much about what the writer says..but i do..

u think he was amp to the point he can take on 4 being who tank a device that can destroy and recreate reality??he ate 4 planet..not a galaxy..Galactus is powerful..but not that powerful..

if i'm not mistaken..the user only died if their mind wasn't strong enough..them not being strong enough effect the power of the nullifier rite..like i said..it's either they are not competent enough to use the UN or that feat is stupid..

Who would u say is the most powerful of T2

Exitar

Galan do you believe Eson and the no named Celestial could tank the same attack that was used in Abraxas arc ?

I agree with both Galan and Slaneesh.

Galan is right and I've also argued this before,
it makes no difference what size the nullification sphere is,
the same energies that erase Space-Time shoot out of the UN
to erase an atom or the Multiverse.

ie. If a being/entity gets hit by the UN and survives,
then said being/entity is withstanding the same amount of force
that erased Abraxas/Eternity/Infinity.

That said, Slaneesh .. I agree. That shit makes No sense!

That is to say, Celestials (specially Eson) should not be tanking UN hits.

@Galan ... Thanos survived using the UN in Reality 9777, so has Galactus in 616.

That detail depends on the will. (survival after using it)