The Mad Celestials vs Tiamut/Exitar/Arishem/Ziran

Started by zopzop6 pages

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He was just trying to do damage control

He wrote a crappy story, and the fans zopped him. Scramble to appease them


At least he had enough common sense to realize he phucked up.

Hickman, on the other hand.................. 馃槝

Originally posted by zopzop
At least he had enough common sense to realize he phucked up.

Hickman, on the other hand.................. 馃槝

Hickman can't apologize for some of his readers smelling of foot cheese zop.

馃槵

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hickman can't apologize for some of his readers smelling of foot cheese zop.

馃槵


Meh, we'll see. Like I said, only the Starbrand can redeem him now. But I'm not holding out hope.

Originally posted by zopzop
Meh, we'll see. Like I said, only the Starbrand can redeem him now. But I'm not holding out hope.
You'll love it up until Starbrand gets punched out by Galactus...

Just like the Mad Celestials

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You'll love it up until Starbrand gets punched out by Galactus...

It's funny you should say that, see what's going on in the upcoming issue of the Avengers?

Just like the Mad Celestials

Shut up 馃檨

Originally posted by zopzop

It's funny you should say that, see what's going on in the upcoming issue of the Avengers?

Shut up 馃檨 [/B]

eh?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
eh?


The IG is gone and the Illuminati are apparently turning to Galactus for help, this ties in to what's going on in the Avengers issue concerning the Starbrand.

I swear to christ, if Hickman has Galactus beat the Starbrand, I'm declaring a comic jihad.

Originally posted by zopzop

The IG is gone and the Illuminati are apparently turning to Galactus for help, this ties in to what's going on in the Avengers issue concerning the Starbrand.

I swear to christ, if Hickman has Galactus beat the Starbrand, I'm declaring a comic jihad.

Oh I knew about that. I thought something was released like dying Galactus and Starbrand

Although I'm curious if Galactus and Starbrand user guyman will even meet.

Also this:
http://i50.tinypic.com/k3ku3n.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/ohjyp2.jpg

If Galactus doesn't beat Starbrand, then it's giant pis. 馃檪

agreed

Originally posted by Galan007
My friend, Franklin Richards(a confirmed universal reality warper) was unable to defeat 3 Mad Celestials solo, and had to literally sacrifice himself via a last-ditch kamikaze attack just to defeat Eson. That should help you gauge just how powerful Galactus must have been to take on the Celestials.

Point: even without merging, the MCs were hella powerful.

Again: the user being nullified by the UN backlash doesn't make the nullification energies in the initial blast any less... Nullify-ie. The UN only fires one type of energy, and nullification is nullification.

I understand. I'm just saying that whether the user dies or not, the UN is still releasing a burst of nullification... And that burst is what Eson tanked.

well..a cube being who can warp universe says a random 616 celestial is way more powerful than him..the Celestials are equal..even the writer says so..i'm not gonna agree with u that those mad celestials are more powerful than the 616 version..

that makes no sense whatsoever..reed pull out a gun and oneshot a mad celestial..u really believe that gun is more powerful than the UN??even johnny with the cosmic control rod manage to harm the Celestials if i remember correctly..

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Also this:
http://i50.tinypic.com/k3ku3n.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/ohjyp2.jpg

If Galactus doesn't beat Starbrand, then it's giant pis. 馃檪


Meaningless. We don't know how much of the Starbrand that Reed was wielding. Even when the Starbrand passes on to a new host, the old host retains a tiny portion of it.

Quasar with ONE MILLIONTH of the Starbrand reconstituted himself after being NULLIFIED by the UN, killed by his Death Avatar, and blown to bits in the White Room. He then went on to pwn the Marvel Boy clone Thanos created with the IG and exorcise the Possessor from his body.

Originally posted by zopzop
Meaningless. We don't know how much of the Starbrand that Reed was wielding. Even when the Starbrand passes on to a new host, the old host retains a tiny portion of it.

Quasar with ONE MILLIONTH of the Starbrand reconstituted himself after being NULLIFIED by the UN, killed by his Death Avatar, and blown to bits in the White Room. He then went on to pwn the Marvel Boy clone Thanos created with the IG and exorcise the Possessor from his body.

And then eventually the power grows and gets back to the original power level... so yeah, full power.
Although I doubt it sticks if they died. And if it even works that way in Marvel anymore since Erek is weak as shit. Quasar doesn't have the full power or even 10 percent right now, Stranger doesn't have it, etc.

Plus, if it worked like you're implying, then Erek was only using like 30% of the Starbrand's power... 馃槵

Good for him. Celestials killed the shit out of a full user.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And then eventually the power grows and gets back to the original power level... so yeah, full power.
Although I doubt it sticks if they died. And if it even works that way in Marvel anymore since Erek is weak as shit. Quasar doesn't have the full power or even 10 percent right now, Stranger doesn't have it, etc.

Plus, if it worked like you're implying, then Erek was only using like 30% of the Starbrand's power... 馃槵

Good for him. Celestials killed the shit out of a full user.


Which is IMPOSSIBLE since the Starbrand is back in the New Universe multiverse in Skeletron's possession. So Stranger, Quasar, or Erishkigal wouldn't have jack crap of it.

The only person in 616 reality that probably still has a tiny portion of it is Kayla. And she was always a reluctant user anyway. So yeah.....

Originally posted by zopzop
Which is IMPOSSIBLE since the Starbrand is back in the New Universe multiverse in Skeletron's possession. So Stranger, Quasar, or Erishkigal wouldn't have jack crap of it.

The only person in 616 reality that probably still has a tiny portion of it is Kayla. And she was always a reluctant user anyway. So yeah.....

So what you're saying is that the 10% thing doesn't exist anymore?

So yeah, Starbrand Reed 100% got killed to death, and now new Starbrand user is set to appear.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So what you're saying is that the 10% thing doesn't exist anymore?

So yeah, Starbrand Reed 100% got killed to death, and now new Starbrand user is set to appear.


No I'm saying the last place we saw the Starbrand was in the New Universe with Skeletron.

Quasar, Stranger, Erishkigal's portions are burnt out. The only other person left would be Kayla with a small portion of it.

So we have NO clue how much of it that Reed had.

Last canon appearance was with Skeletron.

Originally posted by zopzop
No I'm saying the last place we saw the Starbrand was in the New Universe with Skeletron.

Quasar, Stranger, Erishkigal's portions are burnt out. The only other person left would be Kayla with a small portion of it.

So we have NO clue how much of it that Reed had.

Last canon appearance was with Skeletron.

And why would that take the portions with them?

Why would 10 percent of infinity burn out? Why would 10 percent of infinity that was said to regrow to the original 100 percent burn out?

100 percent. Just like all Starbrand users. Otherwise, Skeletron would again, have like 20% following your logic.

Last canon appearance was in FF 583. Before that was in Ellis New Universal which was part of the Marvel Multiverse.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And why would that take the portions with them?

Why would 10 percent of infinity burn out? Why would 10 percent of infinity that was said to regrow to the original 100 percent burn out?

100 percent. Just like all Starbrand users. Otherwise, Skeletron would again, have like 20% following your logic.

Last canon appearance was in FF 583


Skeletron absorbed ALL the Starbrand (even the portion of it that caused the "White Event" on New Universe Earth). So that's that.

Quasar, Stranger, and Erishkigal's portion burnt out. The only one that would have any of it worth mentioning in 616 reality is Kayla. The rest of it is the New Universe with Skeletron.

This was explained in the Starblast event.

New Universal was a flashback no? Because the New Universe was still alive.

At the end of the Starblast event, it was an empty husk with nothing but Skeletron with the Starbrand in it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Skeletron absorbed ALL the Starbrand (even the portion of it that caused the "White Event" on New Universe Earth). So that's that.

Quasar, Stranger, and Erishkigal's portion burnt out. The only one that would have any of it worth mentioning in 616 reality is Kayla. The rest of it is the New Universe with Skeletron.

This was explained in the Starblast event.

He absorbed from the New Universe dimension, and Stranger iirc.

Stranger's was siphoned, which should have regrown back. Quasar and Erek doesn't make sense to burn out, as it should have regrown, and if it burned out, that means that's 20% Skeletron never got, as well as with Kayla. Plus, I don't think it was shown that he got the Star Child's part. It would have still been under 50%
Or that changed, but whatever.
Or all of that can be answered that it doesn't weaken as it's passed on.

You realize that Ellis "revamped" the series and brought back the Starbrand in another universe, don't you?

Also, like the best feat from the Starbrand completely on its own is from Starbrand Reed when it killed a Celestial...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He absorbed from the New Universe dimension, and Stranger iirc.

Stranger's was siphoned, which should have regrown back. Quasar and Erek doesn't make sense to burn out, as it should have regrown, and if it burned out, that means that's 20% Skeletron never got, as well as with Kayla. Plus, I don't think it was shown that he got the Star Child's part. It would have still been under 50%
Or that changed, but whatever.
Or all of that can be answered that it doesn't weaken as it's passed on.

You realize that Ellis "revamped" the series and brought back the Starbrand in another universe, don't you?


Nope. I just now realized that "Newuniversal" is more recent than Untold Tales of the New Universe : Starbrand and not a continuation of the "Untold" issue(s).

I have almost every issue concerning the Starbrand except the Newuniversal line.
Rot in hell Marvel. I wish you crash and burn.