Batman, Reed Richards, Dr Doom vs Thanos in a prep battle

Originally posted by zopzop

God, I hate Reed

Don't get me wrong, someone took most of Beyonder's power,
but it wasn't 616 Doom. It was a Doom from a Future he didn't exist in,
this is why it created a loop in the Timestream,
because when the Future came around as the Present,
the Doom Beyonder plucked from the Timestream was missing, because he never existed.

616 Doom basically took his place and replayed all of the SW events
so that when the Future arrived again as the Present THIS time there was a Doom.

Heck, 616 Doom had never met, or even seen the Beyonder before this issue:

Heck, he never had even seen or known about She-Hulk either.

This is nearly two years after Secret Wars 1. 🙂

^^ .. to add to that ...

So, 616 Doom had absolutely nothing to do with the original Secret Wars.

The future Doom came from a future he did not exist in,
this future later became the real present and guess what,
there is NO Doom in this present with his original body in the entire Universe,
so I'd like to know how 616 Doom, in McArthur's body, ended up being the Secret Wars Doom,
who had a completely different body and aura?

On Panel truth 1:

616 Doom was living a life with McArthur's woman, while Secret Wars was happening,
way before Secret Wars, since his body was obliterated in the Terrax incident back in 83'
up until # 288 below:

On Panel truth 2:

So either,
616 Doom was existing in both Universes (616 & Battleworld) simultaneously,
which is ridiculous,
or the Doom that originally appeared in Secret Wars came from a Future he never existed in,
which is true.

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Remember what Reed said:

After Beyonder sent 616 Doom to the past, to repeat the actions of the orginal culprit,
Reed clarifies what 616 Doom will be doing there:

She-Hulk: ... "He's (616 Doom) gone into the Past hasn't he"

Reed: ... "Yes, but there he will begin a CYCLE
that will end with the Beyonder banishing him 'across time & space,'
at the conclusion of the First Secret Wars."

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Reed knows exactly what 616 Doom will do, and how it will end for him,
cause it already happened, as I said and proved without this blatant proof,
616 Doom is only replacing the actions of another.

Surely you will agree now true debater. swank

Originally posted by Galan007

And zop solves Mr Master's riddle with a single click of his mouse.

team pretty thoroughly stomps.

Originally posted by Mindset
Cool.

Doom beat Beyonder.

1. The reason he didn't die after his battle with the Beyonder,
is cause the Concept of Death was warped in the Battleworld universe:

"Doom only barely survived that battle with the Beyonder.
But Death,
we had already learned was NOT the same force in that realm
as it had been at home"

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2. The reason this Doom is able to get close to the Beyonder in this stomped state,
is cause Beyonder was intricately studying his body with its torn limbs:

(I mean he's being dissected, half his body is being peeled by layers,
he was already missing one arm, one leg, other forearm, other chin)

Yet, he's still alive? ... 😂 ... like I said, surrounded by stipulations.

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3.We later learn from Beyonder's own mouth,
he was actually trying to help Doom at this point,
this is when Doom pulled out this monster PIS feat.

Yea, I have the comics too.

Doom stole his powers.

Originally posted by Mindset

Yea, I have the comics too.

Doom stole his powers.

I think this says it all:

You're (616 Doom) only involvement in this feat is because of me, (Beyonder)
and even though now you (616 Doom) can take credit for it, (cause of me)
someone else (non-existent future Doom) accomplished it,
then you (616 Doom) came,
and like a puppet (616 Doom) was placed in the other's (n-e future Doom) stead,
and exactly everything that he (n-e future Doom) did,
you (616 Doom) were forced to repeat.

* That's Beyonder Choreographing 616 Doom's history.
Literally manipulating his involvement in SW 1 nearly TWO Years later.

Does it say Doom stole Beyonder's powers?

Because that's what happened.

Beyonder knew he couldn't escape his fate of Doom stealing his powers, so he let 616 Doom do it, because better it be the best Doom than another. 👆

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
There's not many people who have the tech available to beat Reed in prep

Galactus, maybe Darkseid, Celestials (?)

In this thread both sides have equal prep devices and even still I would imagine Thanos has tech equal to or better then Reed's tech

I am still pretty sure that was Beyonder that lost to Kubik

Originally posted by Mindset
Does it say Doom stole Beyonder's powers?

Because that's what happened.

Originally posted by golem370
I am still pretty sure that was Beyonder that lost to Kubik

Even if it was a training session he was still wiping the floor with Beyonder. He didn't become as powerful as Kubik until him and Owen were joined in a cosmic cube.

Originally posted by golem370
In this thread both sides have equal prep devices and even still I would imagine Thanos has tech equal to or better then Reed's tech

Yeah, and what tech might that be?

Reed has a Celestial killing device under his bed; what does Thanos have thats equal to or better than that?

Take your time answering...I'll wait.

Originally posted by Mihsnme
Reed punked the LT in Last Planet Standing, it isn't canon though

Oh and Thanos wins, Cosmic geniuses are above Eath genusies

It was canon for the LT though...wasnt it? 😉

The LT was stopped by Reed Richards; The Tribunal had a plan and Richards foiled him...

So what if Thanos is a "cosmic genius," Earth based genius's have better feats performed with tech than Thanos does...so that cosmic genius tag means nothing.

Thanos gets annihilated by Richards and Doom together...

Originally posted by Mindset
Does it say Doom stole Beyonder's powers?

Because that's what happened.

👆

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
It was canon for the LT though...wasnt it? 😉

The LT was stopped by Reed Richards; The Tribunal had a plan and Richards foiled him...

So what if Thanos is a "cosmic genius," Earth based genius's have better feats performed with tech than Thanos does...so that cosmic genius tag means nothing.

Thanos gets annihilated by Richards and Doom together...

However, MC2 Reed=/=616 Reed-- they are 2 completely different characters whose feats are not interchangeable. ie. just because MC2 Reed built a device capable of tooling the hierarchy with their own energies, doesn't mean 616 Reed gets said tech by proxy.

Having said that, Thanos gets shit-stomped here.

Thanos does get shit stomped here because he's limited in his resources. If not, it would be a better fight.. He would probably still lose either way, but not a stomp. In a comic, of course, this is even more a non fight.

Why are people so impressed with Doom doin what he did to beyonder. Beyonder ALLOWED Doom to even do that. He couldn't with a mere thought blinked doom away from every universe or timestream in existence. With a mere thought he could've. So because he didn't do that i.e. PIS.. and because he basically set up doom to do what he did.. this is suppose to be impressive?

The Celestial killing gun is as stupid as it sounds for 1 Odin and other Skyfathers had like 1 million years or so to stop the Celestial and couldn't come up with anything. The gun makes about as much sense as Sue stopping Exitar.Thanos with little prep almost killed Galactus and stopped the initial entry of Hunger who was a being that not even Galactus in his billions and billions of years of experience could mess with. When Galactus first came to earth was it not the Watcher that told them about the UN and saved the FF and everybody on earth?

Originally posted by golem370
Thanos with little prep almost killed Galactus

Reed > Thanos.