John McClane Vs Unicron

Started by Newjak30 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you trying to compare Daniel or the exosuit, cos the suit is obviously larger than he is.
I'm comparing Arcee to Daniel to showcase how big her gun is compared to a human. And while the Exosuit makes him larger it doesn't make for instance make him 15 feet tall or even 10 feet tall. I would say 7-8 feet is pushing it.

Even in the frame chumps chose to use that makes arcee and daniel the closest in size her gun is still roughly the size of it's arm.

And the whole point is that putting on the exosuit does not make a human the equivalent or close to a Transformer or their firepower.

I would still say the Cassette formers would still beat an exosuit pretty handily.

the scale of the exosuit was consistant throughout. and again:

exosuit arm is far longer than arcee's pistol. but dont let that stop you from continuing to argue a moot point. keep on gimpin brotha!

Originally posted by focus4chumps
the scale of the exosuit was consistant throughout. and again:

exosuit arm is far longer than arcee's pistol. but dont let that stop you from continuing to argue a moot point. keep on gimpin brotha!

The Exosuit was not consistent throughout the film.

Arcee's gun is at least 75% as long as the arm and more much stronger.

Heck even in the picture you're posting Arcee's arm is like 3/4 as long as the exosuit itself.

as much as i badmouth quanchi, he at least has the courtesy of making it clear from the beginning that he intends to remain unconditionally obstinate toward glaring visual evidence. you however has strung me along nicely. well done.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
as much as i badmouth quanchi, he at least has the courtesy of making it clear from the beginning that he intends to remain unconditionally obstinate toward glaring visual evidence. you however has strung me along nicely. well done.
Yeah nice try, your visual evidence doesn't say what you think it does.

The truth is Arcee's gun is almost as big as the Exosuits arm and therefore way bigger than the blaster on the exosuit which barely damaged the vat while Arcee's gun was able to actually punch a hole in the wall.

the gun is clearly well under 2 hand-lengths while the exo arm is well over 3 hand lengths. use the hand for scaling, wrist to fingertips (assuming im wrong and you are not here to just trololo)

McClane's exosuit is going to be 2-3 times larger than the one Daniel suited up. Unless we're expected McClane to pull a DH1 and TV dinner himself in a child's suit?

spikes was larger but not by much. which really was silly when you think about it. like they just happened to have a perfectly taylored 10 year old child size exosuit on hand.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
the gun is clearly well under 2 hand-lengths while the exo arm is well over 3 hand lengths. use the hand for scaling, wrist to fingertips (assuming im wrong and you are not here to just trololo)
Actually it's clearly over 2 hand lengths, it's about as long as her forearm and put together

Her forearm and hand would clearly go up about 3/4s of the arm on the exosuit in the picture you present.

Therefore her gun is roughly the size of the exosuits arm.

Originally posted by Robtard
McClane's exosuit is going to be 2-3 times larger than the one Daniel suited up. Unless we're expected McClane to pull a DH1 and TV dinner himself in a child's suit?
Are you including height into that 2-3 times larger? Cause unless McClane is 2-3 times taller than Daniel his suit won't be 2-3 times larger. It would only be the equivalent of a adult human compared to a child. Therefore roughly a head and shoulder above him. Maybe to the chest area and wider.

And still wouldn't be stronger than Arcee's blaster.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
spikes was larger but not by much. which really was silly when you think about it. like they just happened to have a perfectly taylored 10 year old child size exosuit on hand.
Not really cause I don't think the suits have to be preferctly tailored and some of the area in the suit like the arms and legs are longer than a normal humans and offer more room.

Originally posted by Newjak
Actually it's clearly over 2 hand lengths, it's about as long as her forearm and put together

ever hear of perspective? hint: its why the front of the gun looks huuuuuge and the back of the gun looks small

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ever hear of perspective? hint: its why the front of the gun looks huuuuuge and the back of the gun looks small
I've heard of it at that angle and distance it wouldn't change anything. I'm hoping you understand how it works though and why it doesn't change my statement. And we still have her hands to judge by and it's bigger than two of them.

Here is the size equivalent of what she is holding

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/02/09/tauruss-new-raging-judge-magnum/

Have you ever held one of those?

Put it up to your forearm and it will go up to your knuckle just fine.

you ignore glaring visual evidence and combat it with some chick holding an oversized firearm? what a joke. i cant believe i let you clown me for this long. bravo!

You're the one using visual evidence that doesn't support your claim.

Gun is clearly and oversized gun that is bigger than her two hands which roughly is the equivalent of her forearm to knuckles. Her arm is clearly at 3/4s the size the exosuits arm, therefore her gun is roughly the size of the arm or three-fourths of it.

i was combatting your claim that the exo-gun was teeny tiny compared to arcee's pistol, which proved overly-effective against unicron's defenses. you were proven flat wrong and now you are crying and trying to flip it on me.

What if McClane builds a rudimentary lathe?

Originally posted by Robtard
What if McClane builds a rudimentary lathe?

herp derp, etc.

Someone's not seen or doesn't recall Galaxy Quest.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i was combatting your claim that the exo-gun was teeny tiny compared to arcee's pistol, which proved overly-effective against unicron's defenses. you were proven flat wrong and now you are crying and trying to flip it on me.
You haven't proven me wrong.

First off the Blaster on the exosuit is like the hand area only so it's still not even that big.

Arcee's gun is roughly the size of the Exo-Suits arm. And Arcee's gun doesn't have to hold human arms in it therefore it is still bigger more dense.

And you're still ignoring the fact that Arcee's weapon did more damage to the wall she shot than Daniel did to the Vat's wall he shot.

Arcee's Blaster >>>> exosuit.

Originally posted by Robtard
Someone's not seen or doesn't recall Galaxy Quest.
That's a great movie 😛