Originally posted by Horrificus
Mangog beating Thor, Odin and all of Asgard trumps Validus feats. For now.And, that isn't even using the comments and narration of the Mangog stories, which would turn this thread into a no-contest.
Originally posted by abhilegendMangog casually one-shotting Thor over and over, defeating ANY version of Odin along with the statements made about previous encounters make it clear that you are wrong.
Validus knocking out PC superboy when he just rammed into validus trumps everything mangog has done. Now add the comment that he was 12 times more powerful than superboy and he kills mangog with ease. Thor? GTFOH, he isn't even close to post-crisis superman in durability much less PC superboy. Odin? He wasn't that much in regards to strength and durability department. Thor actually overpowered him in strength in silver age.
PC Superboy is nowhere near as dangerous or powerful as Odin and regardless of how powerful Superboy was, to say that he dwarfed Thor's attack strength and powers, is insane. In his battle against Mangog, Thor created attacks that turned huge swaths of Asgard into a molten sea. Not Earth, Asgard. 3 times density and strength of earth.
Mangog IGNORED having a mountain range dropped on him that was the size of an empire, as per statements in the story. Again, 3 times the mass and density of earth properties. And, again, Mangog casually tossed it off of himself.
Odin, with brithes filled with poop, consitently stated that he was POWERLESS against Mangog, from previouss experience. When Mangog approached Odin in the second story, Odin gave up, knew he was going down, EXPLAINED THIS ON-PANEL and shunted Asgard to a dimension where Mangog would not be able to destroy the universe by drawing the Twilight Sword.
Odin, AMP'D more than he has ever been (again, stated on-panel) was only able to leech Mangog's power. That was all Odin was able to do. Then he died. Mangog lived.
Mangog has done all of this and more, without receiving a scratch.
And, on top of this, there is no evidence that any of these showings was ever near his peak of power. Mangog gets power from limitless sources. And, these sources, (hate, violence and adoration) are not even all on the same side of the spectrum. The possibilities are pretty much limitless.
Even if we say that Validus and Mangog start out at the same power-level, (which I do not agree with anyway), Mangog also gets power from hate, anger and violence. All evidence says that his battle with Validus would just push Mangog to the point of no return. Especially with his durability. There is no hope of any kind of quick win for Validus.
Sorry Abhi, but regardless of your respect of PC Superboy, feats against a premier skyfather, along with art, narration and storylines to back it up, will always trump Validus and Superboy, Mon-El, Suneater, etc.
And, I take no enjoyment from trouncing you in this case, because Validus is a favorite of mine. So, where you are enjoying your ongoing "Hate-Everything-Asgardian" war and disrespecting Mangog, I still think Validus is awesome. I just don't think he has the same resume. Yet.
The fact that there was nothing all of Asgard could do to Mangog, puts him in a class by himself for now.
And, to disrespect Thor to try and win this debate is not cool or smart. Regardless of your opinion of Thor and PC Superboy, to ignore Thor's Classic Attacks is not the way to go. Although you try to make Thor look like a germ next to PC Superman and PC Superboy, at the time of Mangog's appearance, this was a Thor that was using his "I can do anything that the story calls for" powers. This was the era of his time control showings, speed claims, strength statements and more exotic uses of magic. Most of the stuff Thor did during this period are usually now dismissed in these forums, because he did not do them consistently enough. But, back then, he WAS doing them. And, many of Thor's exotic attacks WERE enough to lay out PC Superman or PC Superboy. Especially if we dig into old scans and look for some of the less flattering losses of these two.
But, instead of doing that with you, I would rather steer away from the DISRESPECTING of these characters.
So, maybe we can keep away from slinging crap on each other's picks and, at the least, agree to disagree.
These are 2 of my favorite characters and it would be a fantasy of mine to see them in a book together, traveling through both comic companies, paying visits to various fan-favorite powerhouse characters along the way.
Mangog is a legitimate "Skyfather-Buster". 😄
Originally posted by Horrificus
Mangog casually one-shotting Thor over and over, defeating ANY version of Odin along with the statements made about previous encounters make it clear that you are wrong.
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Thor is an ant compared to PC superboy and Mon-El. Odin isn't anywhere near them in either strength or durability too.
PC Superboy is nowhere near as dangerous or powerful as Odin and regardless of how powerful Superboy was, to say that he dwarfed Thor's attack strength and powers, is insane.This makes your entire claim invalid. Thor>PC superboy in strength? Put the crack down.
In his battle against Mangog, Thor created attacks that turned huge swaths of Asgard into a molten sea. Not Earth, Asgard. 3 times density and strength of earth.Nothing impressive whatsoever. Superboy nearly flattened himself and bounced off of Validus.
Mangog IGNORED having a mountain range dropped on him that was the size of an empire, as per statements in the story. Again, 3 times the mass and density of earth properties. And, again, Mangog casually tossed it off of himself.
Again not impressive whatsoever for someone that is touted as so strong. Low heralds have better strength feats than that. Validus tore a world apart with brute strength.
Odin, with brithes filled with poop, consitently stated that he was POWERLESS against Mangog, from previouss experience. When Mangog approached Odin in the second story, Odin gave up, knew he was going down, EXPLAINED THIS ON-PANEL and shunted Asgard to a dimension where Mangog would not be able to destroy the universe by drawing the Twilight Sword.Odin was weakened there. Again that is not a measure of strength, Odin did more than that in the first Mangog story. He casually stopped and dispersed mangog
Feats>Statements.
Odin, AMP'D more than he has ever been (again, stated on-panel) was only able to leech Mangog's power. That was all Odin was able to do. Then he died. Mangog lived.That again is no measure of strength. That only proves what a pussy odin is.
Mangog has done all of this and more, without receiving a scratch.Because he never met someone truly strong. Thor is a puny god himself, Odin was even weaker than Thor in strength in that era.
And, on top of this, there is no evidence that any of these showings was ever near his peak of power.Now speculations, eh? You are getting pretty desperate.
Mangog gets power from limitless sources. And, these sources, (hate, violence and adoration) are not even all on the same side of the spectrum. The possibilities are pretty much limitless.LOL, limitless? SMH.
Even if we say that Validus and Mangog start out at the same power-level, (which I do not agree with anyway), Mangog also gets power from hate, anger and violence. All evidence says that his battle with Validus would just push Mangog to the point of no return. Especially with his durability. There is no hope of any kind of quick win for Validus.Validus starts at a MUCH MORE stronger than mangog. Its not even debatable. Validus is also without hate and violence because he is just a child. Omega would notify to that. Also where did mangog got stronger with hate of people he fought?
Sorry Abhi, but regardless of your respect of PC Superboy, feats against a premier skyfather, along with art, narration and storylines to back it up, will always trump Validus and Superboy, Mon-El, Suneater, etc.Only to a Thorbag like you. Validus is indisputably the strongest brick in comics barred Omega. The mere fact that you think Thor's strength is anywhere near PC superboy says how much of a thorbag you are.
And, I take no enjoyment from trouncing you in this case, because Validus is a favorite of mine. So, where you are enjoying your ongoing "Hate-Everything-Asgardian" war and disrespecting Mangog, I still think Validus is awesome. I just don't think he has the same resume. Yet.Trouncing me? You just made a fool of yourself.
The fact that there was nothing all of Asgard could do to Mangog, puts him in a class by himself for now.You want to compare feats of strength with thor and PC superboy? LOL, go at it. I would enjoy thrashing you all over KMC.And, to disrespect Thor to try and win this debate is not cool or smart. Regardless of your opinion of Thor and PC Superboy, to ignore Thor's Classic Attacks is not the way to go. Although you try to make Thor look like a germ next to PC Superman and PC Superboy, at the time of Mangog's appearance, this was a Thor that was using his "I can do anything that the story calls for" powers.
This was the era of his time control showings, speed claims, strength statements and more exotic uses of magic. Most of the stuff Thor did during this period are usually now dismissed in these forums, because he did not do them consistently enough.None of that makes him even a contender to PC superboy. Do yourself a favor and drop it. You would become a forum joke if you don't.
But, back then, he WAS doing them. And, many of Thor's exotic attacks WERE enough to lay out PC Superman or PC Superboy. Especially if we dig into old scans and look for some of the less flattering losses of these two.OK, you're seriously thinking about it? You are more of a fool than I ever thought possible.
But, instead of doing that with you, I would rather steer away from the DISRESPECTING of these characters.Validus is a legitimate buster of characters above Mangog's paygrade. You can disagree as much and AS LOUD you want. Wouldn't matter.So, maybe we can keep away from slinging crap on each other's picks and, at the least, agree to disagree.
These are 2 of my favorite characters and it would be a fantasy of mine to see them in a book together, traveling through both comic companies, paying visits to various fan-favorite powerhouse characters along the way.
Mangog is a legitimate "Skyfather-Buster". 😄
Originally posted by abhilegendYou spent an awful lot of time freaking about me stating that Thor was as strong as Superboy, when i never even said that. I said that he does not dwarf Thor in strength. But, you speak like Thor would be a gnat to Superboy and that just isn't true.
😂Thor is an ant compared to PC superboy and Mon-El. Odin isn't anywhere near them in either strength or durability too.
This makes your entire claim invalid. Thor>PC superboy in strength? Put the crack down. Nothing impressive whatsoever. Superboy nearly flattened himself and bounced off of Validus.
Again not impressive whatsoever for someone that is touted as so strong. Low heralds have better strength feats than that. Validus tore a world apart with brute strength.
Odin was weakened there. Again that is not a measure of strength, Odin did more than that in the first Mangog story. He casually stopped and dispersed mangog
Feats>Statements.
That again is no measure of strength. That only proves what a pussy odin is.
Because he never met someone truly strong. Thor is a puny god himself, Odin was even weaker than Thor in strength in that era.
Now speculations, eh? You are getting pretty desperate. LOL, limitless? SMH.
Validus starts at a MUCH MORE stronger than mangog. Its not even debatable. Validus is also without hate and violence because he is just a child. Omega would notify to that. Also where did mangog got stronger with hate of people he fought?
Only to a Thorbag like you. Validus is indisputably the strongest brick in comics barred Omega. The mere fact that you think Thor's strength is anywhere near PC superboy says how much of a thorbag you are.
Trouncing me? You just made a fool of yourself.
You want to compare feats of strength with thor and PC superboy? LOL, go at it. I would enjoy thrashing you all over KMC. None of that makes him even a contender to PC superboy. Do yourself a favor and drop it. You would become a forum joke if you don't. OK, you're seriously thinking about it? You are more of a fool than I ever thought possible.
Validus is a legitimate buster of characters above Mangog's paygrade. You can disagree as much and AS LOUD you want. Wouldn't matter.
Thor may not have the strength showings, but my point was that he DOES have showings of ridiculous powers, attacks, durability, etc. To try and make him look like Aunt May next to Superboy is just stupid.
Superboy plowed into an indestructible opponent. Validus had nothing to do with Superboy knocking himself silly. There are many indestructible characters. The damage was done by Superboy's own force and speed against an indestructible object.
Placing Superboy and Mon-El above Odin is pretty much the funniest thing I have ever read in these forums. You just shot yourself in the foot and took away any credibility you may have had stashed away.
Yes Validus tore a world apart. Mangog was able to casually toss, one-handed, an empire-sized chunk of Asgard, 3 times as dense/heavy as 616 matter. He was also able to walk underground, through this material as if it were air, like it wasn't even there.
The Odin I was describing was NOT a weakened Odin. Odin was not weakened until he shunted Asgard. Read the story. And, before he did that, he and his entire army was toppled, one-shot again, by Mangog. After Odin presumably comes-to, Mangog closes in for the kill and Odin sh*ts.
The first story did not included Odin defeating Mangog. It was Odin trying to reverse his spell, as a silver-bullet, and disperse Mangog, which only worked temporarily. A hopeful bfr from the top skyfather in comics, that did not work for long.
The more you make your hilarious statements about Odin and Thor being pussies, the more you show that you are not in-touch with the material and are here for no other reason but illogical undermining of these characters.
So, yeah, keep going.
Originally posted by Horrificus
You spent an awful lot of time freaking about me stating that Thor was as strong as Superboy, when i never even said that. I said that he does not dwarf Thor in strength. But, you speak like Thor would be a gnat to Superboy and that just isn't true.Thor may not have the strength showings, but my point was that he DOES have showings of ridiculous powers, attacks, durability, etc. To try and make him look like Aunt May next to Superboy is just stupid.
Superboy plowed into an indestructible opponent. Validus had nothing to do with Superboy knocking himself silly. There are many indestructible characters. The damage was done by Superboy's own force and speed against an indestructible object.
Placing Superboy and Mon-El above Odin is pretty much the funniest thing I have ever read in these forums. You just shot yourself in the foot and took away any credibility you may have had stashed away.
Yes Validus tore a world apart. Mangog was able to casually toss, one-handed, an empire-sized chunk of Asgard, 3 times as dense/heavy as 616 matter. He was also able to walk underground, through this material as if it were air, like it wasn't even there.
The Odin I was describing was NOT a weakened Odin. Odin was not weakened until he shunted Asgard. Read the story. And, before he did that, he and his entire army was toppled, one-shot again, by Mangog. After Odin presumably comes-to, Mangog closes in for the kill and Odin sh*ts.
The first story did not included Odin defeating Mangog. It was Odin trying to reverse his spell, as a silver-bullet, and disperse Mangog, which only worked temporarily. A hopeful bfr from the top skyfather in comics, that did not work for long.
The more you make your hilarious statements about Odin and Thor being pussies, the more you show that you are not in-touch with the material and are here for no other reason but illogical undermining of these characters.
So, yeah, keep going.
He is just that much weaker than PC superboy. We can compare feats if you like.
Show mangog doing something like that. PC superboy was indestructible too. Mon-El and he couldn't even harm each other with punches.
In strength and durability, they sure are above Odin of silver age. We can again go comparing feats and such.
The fact that you can say tossing mountain even if it was three times heavier than an earth mountain as something more impressive as tearing a world apart just shows how much biased you are. Its not even funny anymore.
Yeah, he was oneshotted while he was weakened. Whoop-dee-doo for mangog I guess.
He also casually stopped mangog if you didn't notice before dispersing him. Dispersing is BFR? Hahaha, every time I think you couldn't go any lower, you surprise me. He was actually Odin's spell given life. According to you Odin's spell>>Odin. Makes sense.
Yeah, no. keep toting THREE TIMES HEAVIERRRRRRRRRR THAN EARTH MOUNTAINS as something impressive. Someone might actually believe it after a decade or so. Guyz, he was WALKINGGGGGGGGG through it like AIRZZZZ, ITS SO AWESOMEEE. Lulz.
Keep going and compare Thor and PC superboy.
Originally posted by abhilegendHey, way to be insane.
Also where did mangog got stronger with hate of people he fought?
Also, if you need me to SHOW you scans about Mangog's power, you might want to try and read the entire stories, instead of Google-searching images. 😄
Read: "My body thrives on thy most powerful blows." "It feeds on every curse of hate."
Originally posted by Horrificus
Hey, way to be insane.Also, if you need me to SHOW you scans about Mangog's power, you might want to try and read the entire stories, instead of Google-searching images. 😄
Read: "My body thrives on thy most powerful blows." "It feeds on every curse of hate."
Originally posted by abhilegendOdin was not weakened when he was one-shotted.
Thor IS a gnat compared to PC superboy. You can protest as much as you want, it wouldn't change anything.He is just that much weaker than PC superboy. We can compare feats if you like.
Show mangog doing something like that. PC superboy was indestructible too. Mon-El and he couldn't even harm each other with punches.
In strength and durability, they sure are above Odin of silver age. We can again go comparing feats and such.
The fact that you can say tossing mountain even if it was three times heavier than an earth mountain as something more impressive as tearing a world apart just shows how much biased you are. Its not even funny anymore.
Yeah, he was oneshotted while he was weakened. Whoop-dee-doo for mangog I guess.
He also casually stopped mangog if you didn't notice before dispersing him. Dispersing is BFR? Hahaha, every time I think you couldn't go any lower, you surprise me. He was actually Odin's spell given life. According to you Odin's spell>>Odin. Makes sense.
Yeah, no. keep toting THREE TIMES HEAVIERRRRRRRRRR THAN EARTH MOUNTAINS as something impressive. Someone might actually believe it after a decade or so. Guyz, he was WALKINGGGGGGGGG through it like AIRZZZZ, ITS SO AWESOMEEE. Lulz.
Keep going and compare Thor and PC superboy.
You stand by your claim that Superboy and Mon-El are more powerful than Odin. Ok.
The ONLY way he could do anything about Mangog, was to break him up into the race he was made from. And, that was only temporary.
I'm not going to do this anymore. You really are an idiot and, as every forum member knows, you are incapable of having a civil debate.
Your weirdness with "Thor" is getting tiresome. Maybe you had a "creepy uncle" with long blond hair, lots of crisco oil and a "hammer". 😆 I don't know. But your dementia is getting to be a pain in the a$$.
To any other members that are reading this, feel free to search for threads and posts with scans, using my username and "Mangog". By now, I would say that I have posted scans of 75% of the initial Mangog stories.
My scans back up every thing I stated. Abhi continuously makes the same false, and/or terribly misleading statements knowing full-well what the truth is.
Originally posted by abhilegendWell, obviously violence is within him. That should beef up Mangog enough for him to dish out a double-beating to Validus.
Well, you at least produced some thing rational at last. Too bad for Mangog, hate isn't something validus feels. Most of the time he is just playing around not even feeling Superboy and Mon-El's punches.
Argue all you want. You can't win. Mangog starts out as strong or stronger than Validus. Then, he gets stronger as the fight goes on.
That's all there is to it.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, obviously violence is within him. That should beef up Mangog enough for him to dish out a double-beating to Validus.Argue all you want. You can't win. Mangog starts out as strong or stronger than Validus. Then, he gets stronger as the fight goes on.
That's all there is to it.
LIES!!!
The Mighty Validus has an action figure in testament to his greatness and unparalled power.
Does Mangog have that?
NO.
Advantage, Validus!
Originally posted by Horrificus
Odin was not weakened when he was one-shotted.You stand by your claim that Superboy and Mon-El are more powerful than Odin. Ok.
The ONLY way he could do anything about Mangog, was to break him up into the race he was made from. And, that was only temporary.
I'm not going to do this anymore. You really are an idiot and, as every forum member knows, you are incapable of having a civil debate.
Your weirdness with "Thor" is getting tiresome. Maybe you had a "creepy uncle" with long blond hair, lots of crisco oil and a "hammer". 😆 I don't know. But your dementia is getting to be a pain in the a$$.
To any other members that are reading this, feel free to search for threads and posts with scans, using my username and "Mangog". By now, I would say that I have posted scans of 75% of the initial Mangog stories.
My scans back up every thing I stated. Abhi continuously makes the same false, and/or terribly misleading statements knowing full-well what the truth is.
Not more powerful. Far stronger and far more durable, sure.
He also casually stopped him with a gesture and then defeated him. That's not BFR.
That's your response, uncle with blond hair? Pathetic.
Concession accepted. Run away like you always do.
😂
Compare Thor and PC superboy while you run to wherever you hide. Also compare a planet and a mountain while you are at it. You provide a good laugh as always, "GAIZ, GAIZ, he was moving through it like water nah air. Three times as dense as earth, I tell you, I tell you".
crylaugh
Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, obviously violence is within him. That should beef up Mangog enough for him to dish out a double-beating to Validus.Argue all you want. You can't win. Mangog starts out as strong or stronger than Validus. Then, he gets stronger as the fight goes on.
That's all there is to it.
Originally posted by abhilegendUm, I'm not running anywhere. I just know that you are incapable of an actual debate.
Yeah, he was.Not more powerful. Far stronger and far more durable, sure.
He also casually stopped him with a gesture and then defeated him. That's not BFR.
That's your response, uncle with blond hair? Pathetic.
Concession accepted. Run away like you always do.
😂
Compare Thor and PC superboy while you run to wherever you hide. Also compare a planet and a mountain while you are at it. You provide a good laugh as always, "GAIZ, GAIZ, he was moving through it like water nah air. Three times as dense as earth, I tell you, I tell you".
crylaugh
I've already won and you've decided to run again. See you again in the next mangog wank thread. Validus is likely to oneshot mangog like he did to superboy and even that is very generous to mangog.
1. You state your opinion.
2. You trash the opponents opinion as rudely as possible.
3. Then, you spend the remaining threadlife insulting and attempting to upset and anger your opponent, because you shoot your wad too soon and rarely have any kind of in-depth argument about anything other than the specific characters that happen to be in your fav bullpen.
Case in point, this thread right now. You grabbed onto a few tiny weak threads of an argument. I addressed them. Now, you are obsessively comparing Thor and Superboy as if somebody is actually interacting with you about these 2 characters.
NOTHING you have shown effects my argument. Your use of Superboy, although sadly homoerotic in nature, does nothing for your argument, since he really didn't have any kind of in-depth battle with Validus. So, I have no idea why you can't pull yourself out of his butt long enough to give a proper debate.
Great, Validus tore apart a planet. That, pretty much, is the end of your argument.
Blah, blah, blah, Odin and Thor are pussies, blah, blah, blah. This is not a logical stance with any kind of information or references that anybody with half of a brain is going to stand by. It's called "ranting".
Originally posted by Horrificus
Um, I'm not running anywhere. I just know that you are incapable of an actual debate.1. You state your opinion.
2. You trash the opponents opinion as rudely as possible.
3. Then, you spend the remaining threadlife insulting and attempting to upset and anger your opponent, because you shoot your wad too soon and rarely have any kind of in-depth argument about anything other than the specific characters that happen to be in your fav bullpen.Case in point, this thread right now. You grabbed onto a few tiny weak threads of an argument. I addressed them. Now, you are obsessively comparing Thor and Superboy as if somebody is actually interacting with you about these 2 characters.
NOTHING you have shown effects my argument. Your use of Superboy, although sadly homoerotic in nature, does nothing for your argument, since he really didn't have any kind of in-depth battle with Validus. So, I have no idea why you can't pull yourself out of his butt long enough to give a proper debate.
Great, Validus tore apart a planet. That, pretty much, is the end of your argument.
Blah, blah, blah, Odin and Thor are pussies, blah, blah, blah. This is not a logical stance with any kind of information or references that anybody with half of a brain is going to stand by. It's called "ranting".
Your desperation is showing. Considering what you said in your last post this is just hypocritical on your part.
I'm not going to do this anymore. You really are an idiot and, as every forum member knows, you are incapable of having a civil debate.
That's certainly better than throwing a mountain and moving through something THREE TIMES DENSERRRRRRRR THAN EARTH.
Don't worry though, I expect just that from thorbags like you. Not one has surprised me so far.
Well, that's true. Thor and Odin are pussies, captain america has "sonned" them both. Also that was just a joke not that you would understand.
Also don't project your own insecurities on me. Its becoming annoying.
Originally posted by Horrificusgood post 👆
Mangog casually one-shotting Thor over and over, defeating ANY version of Odin along with the statements made about previous encounters make it clear that you are wrong.PC Superboy is nowhere near as dangerous or powerful as Odin and regardless of how powerful Superboy was, to say that he dwarfed Thor's attack strength and powers, is insane. In his battle against Mangog, Thor created attacks that turned huge swaths of Asgard into a molten sea. Not Earth, Asgard. 3 times density and strength of earth.
Mangog IGNORED having a mountain range dropped on him that was the size of an empire, as per statements in the story. Again, 3 times the mass and density of earth properties. And, again, Mangog casually tossed it off of himself.
Odin, with brithes filled with poop, consitently stated that he was POWERLESS against Mangog, from previouss experience. When Mangog approached Odin in the second story, Odin gave up, knew he was going down, EXPLAINED THIS ON-PANEL and shunted Asgard to a dimension where Mangog would not be able to destroy the universe by drawing the Twilight Sword.
Odin, AMP'D more than he has ever been (again, stated on-panel) was only able to leech Mangog's power. That was all Odin was able to do. Then he died. Mangog lived.
Mangog has done all of this and more, without receiving a scratch.
And, on top of this, there is no evidence that any of these showings was ever near his peak of power. Mangog gets power from limitless sources. And, these sources, (hate, violence and adoration) are not even all on the same side of the spectrum. The possibilities are pretty much limitless.
Even if we say that Validus and Mangog start out at the same power-level, (which I do not agree with anyway), Mangog also gets power from hate, anger and violence. All evidence says that his battle with Validus would just push Mangog to the point of no return. Especially with his durability. There is no hope of any kind of quick win for Validus.
Sorry Abhi, but regardless of your respect of PC Superboy, feats against a premier skyfather, along with art, narration and storylines to back it up, will always trump Validus and Superboy, Mon-El, Suneater, etc.
And, I take no enjoyment from trouncing you in this case, because Validus is a favorite of mine. So, where you are enjoying your ongoing "Hate-Everything-Asgardian" war and disrespecting Mangog, I still think Validus is awesome. I just don't think he has the same resume. Yet.
The fact that there was nothing all of Asgard could do to Mangog, puts him in a class by himself for now.
And, to disrespect Thor to try and win this debate is not cool or smart. Regardless of your opinion of Thor and PC Superboy, to ignore Thor's Classic Attacks is not the way to go. Although you try to make Thor look like a germ next to PC Superman and PC Superboy, at the time of Mangog's appearance, this was a Thor that was using his "I can do anything that the story calls for" powers. This was the era of his time control showings, speed claims, strength statements and more exotic uses of magic. Most of the stuff Thor did during this period are usually now dismissed in these forums, because he did not do them consistently enough. But, back then, he WAS doing them. And, many of Thor's exotic attacks WERE enough to lay out PC Superman or PC Superboy. Especially if we dig into old scans and look for some of the less flattering losses of these two.
But, instead of doing that with you, I would rather steer away from the DISRESPECTING of these characters.
So, maybe we can keep away from slinging crap on each other's picks and, at the least, agree to disagree.
These are 2 of my favorite characters and it would be a fantasy of mine to see them in a book together, traveling through both comic companies, paying visits to various fan-favorite powerhouse characters along the way.
Mangog is a legitimate "Skyfather-Buster". 😄
