H'el vs. WBH

Started by carver915 pages

Pak made it clear Hulk could destroy Earth.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901525/Incredible_Hulks_635_017.jpg.html

Earth isn't a fodder planet and will not be destroyed like any other planet would because just like Bruce said, if he fought like he did in the Dark Dimension, he would have destroyed Billions...and let's not forget that during Sentry and Hulks fight, it was stated they were about to destroy Earth as well. Let's also not forget that Pak also stated that a holding back Hulk footstep was about to crack Earth in half. The lowballing here is terrible. It's taking everything in me not to dissect a ft that you all keel bringing up. I'm not joining the lowball gang today.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its strictly a herald level feat although a very high end feat. Surfer and Morg have done it, Superman and Kal-L have done it and so on. Only at herochat and in hulk fanboys' mind it is such a deal breaker.

I for one voice out my opinion when said feat gets exaggerated with things like multiple moons and or planets blowing up, but ure just straight up lowballing or being just in complete denial.

Ish coo though. Ain't surprised here. Its ure thing..
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I for one voice out my opinion when said feat gets exaggerated with things like multiple moons and or planets blowing up, but ure just straight up lowballing or being just in complete denial.

Ish coo though. Ain't surprised here. Its ure thing..
😉


Lowball category? I only said Surfer and Morg have destroyed a planet in similar fashion and Superman and Kal-L did too. Way to lowball I guess, mentioning the highest of high heralds and trans characters in comparison.

Originally posted by carver9
Pak made it clear Hulk could destroy Earth.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901525/Incredible_Hulks_635_017.jpg.html

Earth isn't a fodder planet and will not be destroyed like any other planet would because just like Bruce said, if he fought like he did in the Dark Dimension, he would have destroyed Billions...and let's not forget that during Sentry and Hulks fight, it was stated they were about to destroy Earth as well. Let's also not forget that Pak also stated that a holding back Hulk footstep was about to crack Earth in half. The lowballing here is terrible. It's taking everything in me not to dissect a ft that you all keel bringing up. I'm not joining the lowball gang today.


Lulz. You reported me and now you're flat out lying in the next post. It was eastern seabord, not the whole earth.

http://s118.beta.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh035.jpg.html

Gotta love Pak.

DO IT, BEFORE I BREAK THE WHOLE WORLD.

Originally posted by carver9
Pak made it clear Hulk could destroy Earth.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901525/Incredible_Hulks_635_017.jpg.html

In this scan Hulk is like 100 ft big, amped by the radiation like A-Bomb and Betty to greater levels, it even states he is still full of the energy of the wish... So yeah, those two could break the world.

Your second scan is a statement from Hulks mouth..

Originally posted by carver9
Pak made it clear Hulk could destroy Earth.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901525/Incredible_Hulks_635_017.jpg.html

Earth isn't a fodder planet and will not be destroyed like any other planet would because just like Bruce said, if he fought like he did in the Dark Dimension, he would have destroyed Billions...and let's not forget that during Sentry and Hulks fight, it was stated they were about to destroy Earth as well. Let's also not forget that Pak also stated that a holding back Hulk footstep was about to crack Earth in half. The lowballing here is terrible. It's taking everything in me not to dissect a ft that you all keel bringing up. I'm not joining the lowball gang today.

lies

What did I lie about sin so that I can prove you wrong?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He sure knew all the instances hulk has been beaten to slowly make up for all of that. It doesn't mean anything though, its a canon fact that the matter in dark dimension is more fragile than in normal universe. Speculating about whether Pak knew about it or not is just that, a speculation. We go by feats and facts, not speculations. Also I don't see a FAR more powerful WBH doing anything on earth while he was stomping on FFF or fighting A-bomb.

clearly an inconsistency. The same writer had hulk alone and at lessar power do more damage with two footsteps in manahattan, twice, then more damage in las vegas than what he did in those scans above. He just phucked up.

Smartass moment: I guess gamma bombs make bigger clothes to fit Hulk's body also?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Proof that's he stronger than a guy who can bench press Earth weight for five days straight? If something is that light enough for Supes--and thus H'el by extension--to bench press for that long, their max is much higher than that.

It takes much less than Earth's weight in force to destroy the Earth. Much less.

The fact that Superman's punches did not simply destroy Earth are for two possible reasons--out of universe; the obvious is that Earth is just too damn inconvenient to destroy in most stories. No dragon balls anywhere.--in universe; Their Earth is just that damn durable to be able to withstand Earth weight + force from Superman's fists and only feel shockwaves.

What about all the people around who weren't effected in the least?

^ no dragonballs

if this was a PURE hand to hand slugfest id defenitly go with WBH but its not.

Carver, shut up before you hurt yourself.

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As far as the thread goes, WBH was on another level physically. This much is blatantly obvious from reading the comics. Anyone trying to argue that he was at normal levels is talking out of their ass, tbh.

WBH is on another level physically, yes, but he's still vulnerable. How vulnerable, and whether H'el can take advantage of that, is what should be debated; better that than watching the bastard child of a headless chicken and a broken record rampaging through the thread.

Kinda hard to say what can put wbh down. Nothing has ever hurt him from my knowledge...except the satellite from tony that was made specifically for him.(which was said he was holding back at that time anyways)

Originally posted by bbrem123
Kinda hard to say what can put wbh down. Nothing has ever hurt him from my knowledge...except the satellite from tony that was made specifically for him.(which was said he was holding back at that time anyways)

It's a cheap way but who's to say that He'l with his mad matter-manipulation, superhuman processing ability and knowledge of krypton-science would't know how to deal with a gamma-based strength-monster.

I mean, it's gamma and he's the pupil of perhaps the foremost scientist of a civilization that far eclipsed ours. He can control energy and matter (this should be an automatic win but whatever). He's proven that he can almost effortlessly manipulate higher-ups and their bodily composition.

I can see matter-manipulation working in some form for sure...H'el is a beast, I am not putting it past him to take out WBH...just a lot of unknown factors at play

Originally posted by bbrem123
I can see matter-manipulation working in some form for sure...H'el is a beast, I am not putting it past him to take out WBH...just a lot of unknown factors at play

What unknown factors tho?

H'el can look at WBH cellular make up or whatever and then just use any kind of energy that takes him out.

When did energy and matter manipulation become a synonym for energy blasts? 😛

Originally posted by curryman
It's a cheap way but who's to say that He'l with his mad matter-manipulation, superhuman processing ability and knowledge of krypton-science would't know how to deal with a gamma-based strength-monster.

I mean, it's gamma and he's the pupil of perhaps the foremost scientist of a civilization that far eclipsed ours. He can control energy and matter (this should be an automatic win but whatever). He's proven that he can almost effortlessly manipulate higher-ups and their bodily composition.

Just like Armaggedon can control energy but it did nothing to WBH. What about Rulk, he can absorb energy and it did nothing to WWH. Prove that H'el absorption abilities is above these two, then we can talk.

Originally posted by bbrem123
I can see matter-manipulation working in some form for sure...H'el is a beast, I am not putting it past him to take out WBH...just a lot of unknown factors at play

What's H'el best matter manipulating ft and please show it in a combat sense.