Tentative rules and judges wanted thread for battlezone

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Tentative rules and judges wanted thread for battlezone

Rules

1. We argue based on them fighting in character. This means the characters in question have displayed the abilities on screen/in game or its reasonable to assume they have the abilities and it's in character to for them to do so in conflict.

2. Each faction/side has equal preparation. This translates into an invasion type thread. This is the general point. No one shots or mega weapons that can solo the other side. There is no time travel or battle field removal. A few examples are as follows: The triforce cannot be united nor can Death from the Harry Potter universe or the Guardians of Hyrule aid the characters. No one can use the resurrection stone. The Harry Potter characters are not allowed to shape shift to spy on the opposing faction. Both factions of characters have 1 week to prepare for an invasion type battle.

3. It is assumed for the purposes of the thread the protagonists and antagonists both work together against the foreign invader. Arguing Link goes after Ganondorf midway through the battle is a no go. Both sides are equally unified with no betrayals at all.

4.The location is simple. Hogwarts on one side of the map. Hyrule Castle on the other. 2 miles separating each other. Open terrain between them.

5. There is an agreed upon 2 week time period for this battlezone. Both posters have agreed that if we both agree it can end before the 2 weeks is up.

6. The judges who are accepted agree to debate this solely on the arguments presented. The decisions of the judges themselves are to be influenced in no way, shape, or form by their own personal opinion.

This is just the thread with the basic rules and is intended to find the judges. Nate (my opponent) extended me the opportunity to extend the challenge to any hardcore members of the zelda brigade. If no one else comes forward after the weekend then it's me versus Nate.

For the furthering of information,

You should decide on how Felix Felicis should work. In MVF, it has been used as a Deus Ex Machina due to the wording of how it works.

Dragons?

Define Guardians. Some things may not count while others most certainly will.

Originally posted by Pwned
For the furthering of information,

You should decide on how Felix Felicis should work. In MVF, it has been used as a Deus Ex Machina due to the wording of how it works.

Dragons?

Define Guardians. Some things may not count while others most certainly will.

I won't be arguing for any luck potions. That will be out. Dragons. If they are seen they are fair game. The (Sacred grove)Guardians being the characters that talk to Link and help him through their words throughout his quest.

At the stroke of midnight someone has come forward to fight for those of Hyrule in the face of overwhelming odds. Bumped for xanatos. Mull over this comment here and/or pm me.

Re: Tentative rules and judges wanted thread for battlezone

For the sake of ensuring clarification, I will go over the rules one by one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. We argue based on them fighting in character. This means the characters in question have displayed the abilities on screen/in game or its reasonable to assume they have the abilities and it's in character to for them to do so in conflict.

I have no issues with this rule.

Originally posted by quanchi112
2. Each faction/side has equal preparation. This translates into an invasion type thread. This is the general point. No one shots or mega weapons that can solo the other side. There is no time travel or battle field removal. A few examples are as follows: The triforce cannot be united nor can Death from the Harry Potter universe or the Guardians of Hyrule aid the characters. No one can use the resurrection stone. The Harry Potter characters are not allowed to shape shift to spy on the opposing faction. Both factions of characters have 1 week to prepare for an invasion type battle.

Regarding the stipulation of mega weapons: I understand refraining from abstracts such as Death and Triforce wishes, but could arguments be made for more encompassing effects that, while far reaching, might not be powerful enough to take a great majority of the opposing faction? In this regard I am considering for example the Twilight Field. From what I understand on it now, it seems like an effect that could affect younger/lower level wizards, but could be defended against by more skilled ones. I will of course be studying in more detail, and if I find that I feel it to be closer to a mega weapon, as you call them, I will refrain from utilizing it in the battlezone.

On another point, is there general knowledge of opposing factions in this scenario, or are both sides essentially going in blind?

Originally posted by quanchi112
3. It is assumed for the purposes of the thread the protagonists and antagonists both work together against the foreign invader. Arguing Link goes after Ganondorf midway through the battle is a no go. Both sides are equally unified with no betrayals at all.

I have no issues with this rule. In fact, I think it works to both our benefits.

Originally posted by quanchi112
4.The location is simple. Hogwarts on one side of the map. Hyrule Castle on the other. 2 miles separating each other. Open terrain between them.

By open terrain I will assume you mean flat plains. Will offensive abilities be capable of targeting the castles directly, or will the fight take place mainly within this 2-mile "No Man's Land"?

Originally posted by quanchi112
5. There is an agreed upon 2 week time period for this battlezone. Both posters have agreed that if we both agree it can end before the 2 weeks is up.

I have no issue with this rule. If we can both agree to conclusion, I see no reason to continue a farce.

Originally posted by quanchi112
6. The judges who are accepted agree to debate this solely on the arguments presented. The decisions of the judges themselves are to be influenced in no way, shape, or form by their own personal opinion.

I have no issue with this rule itself. I assume the most suitable candidates would be those who have some knowledge of the fictions being presented, so that we need not waste space in posts to explain things.

Re: Re: Tentative rules and judges wanted thread for battlezone

Originally posted by XanatosForever
For the sake of ensuring clarification, I will go over the rules one by one.

I have no issues with this rule.

Good.


Regarding the stipulation of mega weapons: I understand refraining from abstracts such as Death and Triforce wishes, but could arguments be made for more encompassing effects that, while far reaching, might not be powerful enough to take a great majority of the opposing faction? In this regard I am considering for example the Twilight Field. From what I understand on it now, it seems like an effect that could affect younger/lower level wizards, but could be defended against by more skilled ones. I will of course be studying in more detail, and if I find that I feel it to be closer to a mega weapon, as you call them, I will refrain from utilizing it in the battlezone.[/B]
I still want to avoid this sort of option. I want this to be getting your hands dirty not some kind of massive aod attack type thread.

On another point, is there general knowledge of opposing factions in this scenario, or are both sides essentially going in blind?[/B]
They know who is opposing them(ie leadership but not their general abilities)and that they are going to war but cannot spy or learn about their opponents until they meet them on the battlefield. This means you can make it a point to kill the head so to speak but they won't necessarily know what abilities anyone has until the battle commences.


I have no issues with this rule. In fact, I think it works to both our benefits.

By open terrain I will assume you mean flat plains. Will offensive abilities be capable of targeting the castles directly, or will the fight take place mainly within this 2-mile "No Man's Land"?[/B]

Ok, good.

What would you rather do ? I foresee a Midna/Ganondorf let's hammer the castle into the ground type attack but tell me what you think.


I have no issue with this rule. If we can both agree to conclusion, I see no reason to continue a farce.

I have no issue with this rule itself. I assume the most suitable candidates would be those who have some knowledge of the fictions being presented, so that we need not waste space in posts to explain things. [/B]

If they have general knowledge then it's an absolute must they don't let their own opinion sway them to a certain conclusion. It is about the cases we present and nothing else.

Re: Re: Re: Tentative rules and judges wanted thread for battlezone

Originally posted by quanchi112
I still want to avoid this sort of option. I want this to be getting your hands dirty not some kind of massive aod attack type thread.
They know who is opposing them(ie leadership but not their general abilities)and that they are going to war but cannot spy or learn about their opponents until they meet them on the battlefield. This means you can make it a point to kill the head so to speak but they won't necessarily know what abilities anyone has until the battle commences.

Oh, I understand. It will be a close comparison of individual units in combat, I am trying to establish a limit to large scale abilities. It determines how I consider Hyrule's battle plans.

So key players are known by name, but threat assessment is unavailable? Or they just know "Hyrule" and "Hogwarts" are at war?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What would you rather do ? I foresee a Midna/Ganondorf let's hammer the castle into the ground type attack but tell me what you think.

I am considering more in the idea of siege attacks. If either side is capable of summoning something or just on their own power having something capaable of large scale damage, perhaps if they're able to have a clear shot at the enemies' headquarters it could be an option for victory. Now that I consider it, I assume if one castle falls it signifies defeat? Or is this meant to be victory through annihilation?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If they have general knowledge then it's an absolute must they don't let their own opinion sway them to a certain conclusion. It is about the cases we present and nothing else.

Agreed.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tentative rules and judges wanted thread for battlezone

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Oh, I understand. It will be a close comparison of individual units in combat, I am trying to establish a limit to large scale abilities. It determines how I consider Hyrule's battle plans.

So key players are known by name, but threat assessment is unavailable? Or they just know "Hyrule" and "Hogwarts" are at war?

I was thinking about this last night. Before the battle commences these parties meet in the middle of the open barren terrain in an effort to avoid war. (Like that's happen with Voldemort and Ganondorf present) Voldemort, Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter, and Severus Snape meet with Ganondorf, Link, Zelda, and Midna. This is how they know who is in charge without any knowledge of abilities. Sound good ?


I am considering more in the idea of siege attacks. If either side is capable of summoning something or just on their own power having something capaable of large scale damage, perhaps if they're able to have a clear shot at the enemies' headquarters it could be an option for victory. Now that I consider it, I assume if one castle falls it signifies defeat? Or is this meant to be victory through annihilation?

Agreed. [/B]

For me the only victory is complete annihilation or where you can place what remains of the opposition in chains ala prisoners.

I will leave this up to you. You are free to argue outside of mega attacks which can win the thread singlehandedly. I want to keep atomic bomb type of threats out of this thread as it defeats the purpose.

When in April would you like to do this ?

Post the link here when the BZ starts.

Curious to see it in action and for some reason can't find another B thread O.o

Originally posted by BloodRain
Post the link here when the BZ starts.

Curious to see it in action and for some reason can't find another B thread O.o

Do you want another link in the meantime to another battlezone ? Is that what you meant when you said B ?

BZ* :<

And yeah that'd be helpful~

Originally posted by BloodRain
B[b]Z* :<

And yeah that'd be helpful~ [/B]


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=562753&pagenumber=1

Grazie.. wow that one really went belly up half way down the second page >_>

Originally posted by BloodRain
Grazie.. wow that one really went belly up half way down the second page >_>
I don't think the loser has ever posted again since that loss. He kinda gave up and thought the judges would just give it to him since Wolverine obviously would destroy Batman. His fault.

Do the judges volunteer, or do you hand pick them?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Do the judges volunteer, or do you hand pick them?
They volunteer and we can say yay or nay at that point.

... may I judge?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
... may I judge?
I will have to think on it. I already know you favor Hyrule greatly so let me get back to you.

May I judge? coot

At the beginning of the battlezone thread, I actually put my money on HPverse. I just thought the challenge would be interesting.