Superman VS Marvel: Slugfest Gauntlet

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus22 pages
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like he did to merged hulk, I guess. Also lulz at thor splitting with superman in slugfest. He wouldn't win a single match. What did you say in Cap vs Batman thread? Superman wins 10/10, not always easy but he wins all.

This was during the era Hulk would revert to Banner if he got too angry, he couldn't go much further than his base as a result (Not a knock against Superman, during this era, his base was incredibly high). Superman still only won just barely, and he didn't limit himself to his fists only. It's been a while but I specifically remember heat vision being used.

Sure, why not, Superman 10/10 if that's what you want to hear.

Re: Superman VS Marvel: Slugfest Gauntlet

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Superman

VS

1) Hercules
2) Wonder-Man
3) Thor
4) Hulk
5) Hyperion

Man Of Steel or Men of MarveL?

In a slugfest they trade blow fo blow, right? But is it 1 blow for 1 or are you allowed not only to hit as hard but also as fast as you can? I'm just asking because they all are quite close in Strength, Superman = Hulk >= Thor (atm) = Hyperion = Hercules > Wonderman.
Herc and Thor are more skilled but they can't use them in a slugfest (no dodging?), else they win.

With speed, Supes clears it with ease. Without he splits with Thor, Hulk and probably Hyperion.

Lol. Pr and Rage gave the most reasonable, non fan based argument here.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This was during the era Hulk would revert to Banner if he got too angry, he couldn't go much further than his base as a result (Not a knock against Superman, during this era, his base was incredibly high). Superman still only won just barely, and he didn't limit himself to his fists only. It's been a while but I specifically remember heat vision being used.

Sure, why not, Superman 10/10 if that's what you want to hear.

This guy knows what he is talking about. This is the reason Hulk asked Jean to release his mentality (against Onslaught) because with this persona, he was unable to accomplish/amp to even pose a threat against Onslaught.

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
In a slugfest they trade blow fo blow, right? But is it 1 blow for 1 or are you allowed not only to hit as hard but also as fast as you can? I'm just asking because they all are quite close in Strength, Superman = Hulk >= Thor (atm) = Hyperion = Hercules > Wonderman.
Herc and Thor are more skilled but they can't use them in a slugfest (no dodging?), else they win.

With speed, Supes clears it with ease. Without he splits with Thor, Hulk and probably Hyperion.

Is this what you think?

That Hulk is a green Superman who can't fly but heals instead?

Or that Thor is a superman with a hammer that can manipulate magic, energy, etc?

I mean that's okay, but then how would you reason that Thor is even close to Superman's equal if he has everything he has (minus some speed maybe) and can freaking do anything with his hammer? And same goes with Hulk. How much better than Superman is he if he's already as strong and durable, and only gets better and better?

As far as I know none of these guys are close to Superman physically. Thor could split even with him in durability maybe and after a while Hulk might split an even in strength?

If they trade 1 blow each in a slugfest then Superman would explode Hulk's brains out the back of his skull with the first punch. Thor and Herc might take quite a few punches but their return isn't nearly enough to wear down the MAN O' STEEEEEEEEEEEEL

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Originally posted by curryman

As far as I know none of these guys are close to Superman physically. Thor could split even with him in durability maybe and after a while Hulk might split an even in strength?
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If they trade 1 blow each in a slugfest then Superman would explode Hulk's brains out the back of his skull with the first punch. Thor and Herc might take quite a few punches but their return isn't nearly enough to wear down the MAN O' STEEEEEEEEEEEEL


This along with CGrundy's are the right answer.

Superman starts off way stronger than anyone on the field. Thor's only chance is his hammer and weakness exploitation but that's not allowed.

If superman plays around he still wins; if he is serious he makes it quick and painless.

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Originally posted by curryman
Is this what you think?

That Hulk is a green Superman who can't fly but heals instead?

Or that Thor is a superman with a hammer that can manipulate magic, energy, etc?

I mean that's okay, but then how would you reason that Thor is even close to Superman's equal if he has everything he has (minus some speed maybe) and can freaking do anything with his hammer? And same goes with Hulk. How much better than Superman is he if he's already as strong and durable, and only gets better and better?

As far as I know none of these guys are close to Superman physically. Thor could split even with him in durability maybe and after a while Hulk might split an even in strength?

If they trade 1 blow each in a slugfest then Superman would explode Hulk's brains out the back of his skull with the first punch. Thor and Herc might take quite a few punches but their return isn't nearly enough to wear down the MAN O' STEEEEEEEEEEEEL

Hulk isn't stronger as Supes at first, I agree, but he will come to this level before he gets down, because of his HF. Superman has something Hulk doesn't, invulnerability and his HF isn't bad either. Except of this, Superman's strength is dynamic, he gets stronger if he needs to. He is holding back for a reason.

Thor is most likely as strong as Superman, his invunlerabilty isn't just on the same level. He is tough enough, though.

And yes, Supermans biggest advantage is his speed, take it away and they split with him. Thor might even win a majority because of Mjolnirs hits.

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk isn't stronger as Supes at first, I agree, but he will come to this level before he gets down, because of his HF. Superman has something Hulk doesn't, invulnerability and his HF isn't bad either. Except of this, Superman's strength is dynamic, he gets stronger if he needs to. He is holding back for a reason.

Thor is most likely as strong as Superman, his invunlerabilty isn't just on the same level. He is tough enough, though.

And yes, Supermans biggest advantage is his speed, take it away and they split with him. Thor might even win a majority because of Mjolnirs hits.

Who are you and what are you doing with Batman-Prime's account? 😛

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Originally posted by Diesldude
Who are you and what are you doing with Batman-Prime's account? 😛

😛 Oh damn today isn't the 1st April... my bad, Superman stomps, even with broken arms 😄

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk isn't stronger as Supes at first, I agree, but he will come to this level before he gets down, because of his HF. Superman has something Hulk doesn't, invulnerability and his HF isn't bad either. Except of this, Superman's strength is dynamic, he gets stronger if he needs to. He is holding back for a reason.

Thor is most likely as strong as Superman, his invunlerabilty isn't just on the same level. He is tough enough, though.

And yes, Supermans biggest advantage is his speed, take it away and they split with him. Thor might even win a majority because of Mjolnirs hits.

Lol...this guy.

Hulk shrugs off a blast capable of melting Adamantium.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14061797/IH-01-16.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14061805/IH-01-18.jpg.html

His strength, INCALCULABLE.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14061808/IH-01-19.jpg.html

This doesnt include him ripping through armor that was built to withstand ANY pressure in space. Read Batman Prime, just pick up one and a nearby store.

I really don't want to have to close this one too...

Please tell me you are not blaming me for this one as well? Especially when there are people in here saying someone would get punched and turned to mush.

You alone? No, but you are part of it.

Originally posted by carver9
Please tell me you are not blaming me for this one as well? Especially when there are people in here saying someone would get punched and turned to mush.

Who else Carv. My posts are reasonable. 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This was during the era Hulk would revert to Banner if he got too angry, he couldn't go much further than his base as a result (Not a knock against Superman, during this era, his base was incredibly high). Superman still only won just barely, and he didn't limit himself to his fists only. It's been a while but I specifically remember heat vision being used.

Sure, why not, Superman 10/10 if that's what you want to hear.


Not that it matters anything but he was able to amp himself just not too much. Superman only used HV once and that was at the start of the fight which hulk shrugged off more or less and he blindsided superman just before that. That was also Byrne level superman at that point. Superman starts stronger than any standard hulk minus some special personality and is much more durable. If anybody in HH tier can take hulk down in a slugfest, its superman.

Its the truth.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hulk isn't stronger as Supes at first, I agree, but he will come to this level before he gets down, because of his HF. Superman has something Hulk doesn't, invulnerability and his HF isn't bad either. Except of this, Superman's strength is dynamic, he gets stronger if he needs to. He is holding back for a reason.

Thor is most likely as strong as Superman, his invunlerabilty isn't just on the same level. He is tough enough, though.

And yes, Supermans biggest advantage is his speed, take it away and they split with him. Thor might even win a majority because of Mjolnirs hits.


Thor isn't as strong as superman, not even close to it in fact. What are you smoking?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Its the truth.
Thor isn't as strong as superman, not even close to it in fact. What are you smoking?

By their portrayal they are peers. In comics, Thor, Superman and Hulk are the icons of strength. In their "official" (not on KMC though) DC vs Marvel, they also were shown to be physical peers. That's enough for me to place them at the same level.
Hulk can increase his strength with rage.
Superman can increase his strength by need, not holding back anymore.
Thor can increase his strength too, with WM.

They all have lows and highs. Sure Supes has the best strength feats out there but how they are portrayed when interacting with each other is also important.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
By their portrayal they are peers. In comics, Thor, Superman and Hulk are the icons of strength. In their "official" (not on KMC though) DC vs Marvel, they also were shown to be physical peers. That's enough for me to place them at the same level.
Hulk can increase his strength with rage.
Superman can increase his strength by need, not holding back anymore.
Thor can increase his strength too, with WM.

They all have lows and highs. Sure Supes has the best strength feats out there but how they are portrayed when interacting with each other is also important.


No, they are certainly not peers either by feats or portrayals. Hulk is the only guy who can compete with superman in strength department. Thor is more like wonder woman in that regard, he can compete with his strength to a degree but would be outclassed if either superman or hulk pour it on. Thor isn't a symbol of strength like superman or hulk are.

Thor can't use WM to increase his strength, not by any showing. B&T Thor isn't WM Thor, that's Thor being insane and not holding back. Superman under certain portrayals can increase his strength. Funnily enough Superman defeated both Thor and Hulk in h2h. He even palmed a hammer strike by Thor while doing so. How's that possible if they are at the same level? Its not possible at all.

You can compare either how they are portrayed or by feats and superman would be MUCH stronger than Thor in either scenario. Its not even debatable, even Thorbags accept that superman is stronger than thor.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime

They all have lows and highs. Sure Supes has the best strength feats out there but how they are portrayed when interacting with each other is also important.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
Clears it.

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Stops at #3

Probably clears it