Originally posted by The Sorrow
Only person Superman isn't beating is Hulk. Assuming this is the current version of Hyperion he needs more appearances and doesn't belong here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Herc overwhelmed superman? Are you all right carver? It does, namor for all his strength would always be a level below true powerhouses. Its just not his character. Superman only punched her once in sacrifice and knocked her out. He was also breaking her bones like twig, that's not doing great. Adam was being presented as stronger than captain marvel in that comic and superman was holding back. Well Orion is a true powerhouse in his own right. Where are you going with all of this? This is just you talking a bunch of nonsense, Adam and Orion are well above Namor.
Yeah, right.Thor tanking HV doesn't mean his strength dropped. That's just your speculation, on panel Thor was surprised that superman stopped his all out attack. Punching someone while he punches you doesn't mean you are equal to them. Superman has done that to PC superman, PC superboy, PC Mon-El, SBP, Time-Trapper SBP, Despero and a lot of other characters. Means nothing. Also Thor is most certainly not equal to superman in ANY physical attribute. Stop this nonsense. "Should be" isn't a valid reason here. Superman and hulk are always going to be stronger than thor just like flash is going to be always faster than superman. Its just the way it is.
I'm done debating this. I will you and Pr debate over a warning.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I can see it as a reasonable argument. What about Thor, Sorrow? When did he become equal to superman in strength? Have you read such a character in Thor comics? I don't think I have.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not that it matters anything but he was able to amp himself just not too much. Superman only used HV once and that was at the start of the fight which hulk shrugged off more or less and he blindsided superman just before that. That was also Byrne level superman at that point. Superman starts stronger than any standard hulk minus some special personality and is much more durable. If anybody in HH tier can take hulk down in a slugfest, its superman.
What do you mean it doesn't matter? Hulk not being able to amp himself more than his base by a certain degree does matter, and significantly so.
His heat vision did hurt the Hulk and it automatically disqualifies this from being a slugfest. Superman's not beating Hulk in a slugfest, and referencing a fight where he barely beats a Hulk who has his entire shtick neutered does not help your case. I don't even know why you brought it up to counter my point since it's invalid.
Superman can beat Hulk, but it's not going to be by standing his ground and trading punches. The best he can hope for is a stalemate. Superman is the go to hero but at this point, Hulk is too firmly established as the strength guy.
Feel free to disagree.
[QUOTE=14217886]Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]No, they are certainly not peers either by feats or portrayals. Hulk is the only guy who can compete with superman in strength department. Thor is more like wonder woman in that regard, he can compete with his strength to a degree but would be outclassed if either superman or hulk pour it on.
This I agree with 🤘
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Thats ok 😄For me they are equals in strength, durability. Thor has his exotic powes, Superman has his superior speed, HV and other abilities too. Except of this, his invunlerability is better imho.
There we agree. Hulk at the beginning is Class 100, though he gets stronger with rage so does Thor when pushed or Superman when he stops holding back. In the end, neither should be significantly stronger then the other.
Superman's invulnerability seem to be a notch above the others yeah. In the end I think him and Thor would be able to soak up more or less than same amount of damage, but Superman seems to have a higher threshold when it comes to just flat out ignoring damage. I'm not so sure about Thor's physical strength tho! If he's hitting with Mjolnir then I think he can go around and over Supes, but I think I'd put my money on Supes any day when it's bare hands! 🙂
Yeah, I guess Hulk's healing factor also increases with his rage. But I still think he'd need to get real angry real quick to take the first 3-4 punches and still stand.
Originally posted by curryman
Superman's invulnerability seem to be a notch above the others yeah. In the end I think him and Thor would be able to soak up more or less than same amount of damage, but Superman seems to have a higher threshold when it comes to just flat out ignoring damage. I'm not so sure about Thor's physical strength tho! If he's hitting with Mjolnir then I think he can go around and over Supes, but I think I'd put my money on Supes any day when it's bare hands! 🙂Yeah, I guess Hulk's healing factor also increases with his rage. But I still think he'd need to get real angry real quick to take the first 3-4 punches and still stand.
We all know you hate the Hulk bro. Stop making it so obvious.
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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I made the thread. 😎The speed of the punches. I think you would concede that Superman lands at least 3 before Hulk can respond.
So, this isn't a slugfest then? And when Superman fought the rage-impaired Hulk he didn't land 3 punches to Hulk's one.