Originally posted by -Pr-
When I read it, I honestly got the impression that the vault was to protect her in general... shrugEspecially seeing as the writer was a hack who took great pains to make Kryptonians seem weaker than the years of established continuity had represented them as.
Pretty much my thoughts.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, I'll go with Beta Ray Bill being stunned instead of a knock out. 🙂I haven't read the entire event in a while but I do have the issue infront of me and so far the facts that I have are:
- Supergirl was shoved into a vault that would keep her safe.
- The foundations of the tower seem to be relatively unharmed.
- Other items such as a tool kit, Reactron's helment, and the Kryptonian flag in the same room survive relatively unscathed.
- The glass panel of the vault wouldn't even crack under blows from a distressed Supergirl.How else am I suppose to come to any conclusion other than that building, particularly that vault, kept her safe? If it makes you feel assume they rebuilt it far sturdier.
No, I mean Superman and Supergirl as well. No Kryptonian was anywhere close to surviving a planet blowing up, much less unharmed and with Kryptonite in the fray. I don't want to lowball, and I assume you know exactly the scenes I'm talking about.
Because the radiation deck isn't enough durable to keep her safe, that's it.
Reactron and the flag weren't in the radiation deck with supergirl. You trying to downplay this feat by bringing out reactron surviving the explosion and thus saying the radiation deck kept supergirl safe is just laughable. Think hard before you post shit like this, the writers don't take the account of flags surviving planetary explosion the same way hulk's pants survive everything including WBH punch.
So, the deck gets blown apart by supergirl discharging remaining kryptonite from her body but it protects her from planetary explosion. Good story bro.
Funnily enough superman was caught up in the explosion along with kryptonite radiation, the scan is just one post away. So in a story which nerfed kryptonians beyond belief and the at their weakest superman and supergirl tank planetary level destruction along with a planet of kryptonite radiation to weaken them which is the highest feat for BRB yet and he got knocked out in one of those blasts. Even Byrne superman has better feats than that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You think they used their flight to stop the ship? Angel and hawkman could do that too, I presume? After all flight is all you need to stop things, right?
1. They used some strength but prob not the same way two people with their feet on the ground used. I am 100% certain they used their flight powers for their feat but not flight alone (of course your body must be able to be able to take on such weight without breaking)
2. I do not believe Angel and hawkman have the the same degree of power as a krptonian.
3. Also im sure you don't think that just because 2 beings have the same powers (even though the very nature of producing it is different) means that they can share the same feat... i hope at least.
right?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Feel free to disagree, the scan is there for everyone to see that he was knocked out.Because the radiation deck isn't enough durable to keep her safe, that's it.
Reactron and the flag weren't in the radiation deck with supergirl. You trying to downplay this feat by bringing out reactron surviving the explosion and thus saying the radiation deck kept supergirl safe is just laughable. Think hard before you post shit like this, the writers don't take the account of flags surviving planetary explosion the same way hulk's pants survive everything including WBH punch.
So, the deck gets blown apart by supergirl discharging remaining kryptonite from her body but it protects her from planetary explosion. Good story bro.
Funnily enough superman was caught up in the explosion along with kryptonite radiation, the scan is just one post away. So in a story which nerfed kryptonians beyond belief and the at their weakest superman and supergirl tank planetary level destruction along with a planet of kryptonite radiation to weaken them which is the highest feat for BRB yet and he got knocked out in one of those blasts. Even Byrne superman has better feats than that.
Agree to disagree then.
The evidence is there for whoever wants to judge themselves.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?
The Thor and Bill ft is far more impressive IMO.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
1. They used some strength but prob not the same way two people with their feet on the ground used. I am 100% certain they used their flight powers for their feat but not flight alone (of course your body must be able to be able to take on such weight without breaking)2. I do not believe Angel and hawkman have the the same degree of power as a krptonian.
3. Also im sure you don't think that just because 2 beings have the same powers (even though the very nature of producing it is different) means that they can share the same feat... i hope at least.
right?
Rogue? Ms Marvel? Any marvel character with flight could've accomplished that then. Of course if it isn't a strength feat anybody with flight can do it irrespective of their strength. Don't back-paddle. Its either just flight or just power.
Your point isn't clear here. What are you trying to say here?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Agree to disagree then.The evidence is there for whoever wants to judge themselves.
uhuh
Originally posted by carver9
The Thor and Bill ft is far more impressive IMO.
No telling how much speed they took away from the ship since it was never stated. They slowed it down, but to what degree. Then this scan says a lot...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389675/11_zps9e04be17.jpg.html
Whatever Kryptonian under the ship explosion (that has enough power to take out north America) gets annihilated. Bill was tanking attacks that took out planets.
Also, what does the pocket universe have to do with anything? It was contained.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?
So I don't misunderstand you here, are you saying that the feat was impressive because working together they managed to slow down a decently large ship (Barely, until the engines were reversed) or are you arguing that they lifted a pocket Universe or whatever?
Originally posted by carver9
No telling how much speed they took away from the ship since it was never stated. They slowed it down, but to what degree. Then this scan says a lot...http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389675/11_zps9e04be17.jpg.html
Whatever Kryptonian under the ship explosion (that has enough power to take out north America) gets annihilated. Bill was tanking attacks that took out planets.
Also, what does the pocket universe have to do with anything? It was contained.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html
You suck as usual at this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Steel was speculating of course. You think slowing down a ship containing a pocket universe going near lightspeed is inferior to lifting a city? Also you want durability feats, compare them with actual durability feats not with speculations. So contained things don't weigh, I see. Also it was breached to the outside universe.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html
You suck as usual at this.
Lol...so Steel was speculating even though Superman pretty much agreed with him after his statement? Picking and choosing again bro. You use statements all of the time "except when its going against what you are trying to prove oooorrrr your character".
Don't know why you are bringing up the pocket universe...even with the "barrier being breached, the ship still only had enough force to wipe out a continent and that wasn't due to the size or the weight, it was mainly the speed the ship was going.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm sorry, but you aren't so important that I can go around in circles with you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So I don't misunderstand you here, are you saying that the feat was impressive because working together they managed to slow down a decently large ship (Barely, until the engines were reversed) or are you arguing that they lifted a pocket Universe or whatever?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Steel was speculating of course. You think slowing down a ship containing a pocket universe going near lightspeed is inferior to lifting a city? Also you want durability feats, compare them with actual durability feats not with speculations. So contained things don't weigh, I see. Also it was breached to the outside universe.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html
You suck as usual at this.
How dense was the pocket Universe, how much matter and energy did it contain? At lightspeed in normal space all calculations on moving mass go infinite. An object as large as Asgard being held by two human sized objects would crack the Earth. Both feats defy the laws of Physics and in the Kryptonians case involve the Psionic nature of pre-reboot Kryptonian powers to make sense and in the Asgardians it involves magic. Neither really means physical strength.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so Steel was speculating even though Superman pretty much agreed with him after his statement? Picking and choosing again bro. You use statements all of the time "except when its going against what you are trying to prove oooorrrr your character".Don't know why you are bringing up the pocket universe...even with the "barrier being breached, the ship still only had enough force to wipe out a continent and that wasn't due to the size or the weight, it was mainly the speed the ship was going.
That was after the speed was slowed, when they slowed it down it was going to destroy earth. It was still a pocket universe whether it was going to destroy a continent or a house.
Originally posted by Anthony Stark
How dense was the pocket Universe, how much matter and energy did it contain? At lightspeed in normal space all calculations on moving mass go infinite. An object as large as Asgard being held by two human sized objects would crack the Earth. Both feats defy the laws of Physics and in the Kryptonians case involve the Psionic nature of pre-reboot Kryptonian powers to make sense and in the Asgardians it involves magic. Neither really means physical strength.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he was considering superman stopped it and was no worse for wear after stopping it. This is not choosing and picking, this is simple common sense. Match feats for feats and not feats with statements. I can bring out much low statements than a continent destroying blast killing kryptonians for bill.That was after the speed was slowed, when they slowed it down it was going to destroy earth. It was still a pocket universe whether it was going to destroy a continent or a house.
I can dissect this statement and your scans if I want but I am not going to continue with this because you just don't get it and this isn't going anywhere.
Lol...read above. I'm leaving this one alone bro. Not going anywhere.
