DBZ: Battle of Gods

Originally posted by Yamcha
Haha yeah same here, I'm a huge fan of the Wolf Fang Fist too and it just faded into obscurity until Gotenks pulled it out of nowhere, but I probably just like it cause of the howl at the end and the fact Yamcha appears as a wolf xD.

The spirit ball really seems like it could have been useful even if another character picked it up and added a spin to it or some trick but alas..no ;~;...like I wonder if between DB and Z Toriyama just dated a chick who really liked Yamcha and when they ended she pissed him off and he was like "I'm going to bring hell down upon this character...just you wait." "You could NEVER make him lame!" "Oh...can't I?"

TBF I don't think it was a specific hate on Yamcha. He was just the first to fall in the "Not interested in you anymore therefor you shall become fodder." Everyone but the saiyan's fell in that category at one point or another. Even Piccolo. Watching Piccolo being reduced to a nanny is probably the lowest point in DBZ for me. I think he should've been more forgiving of them...or give them slight little nods of respect like he did Tienshinhan.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
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TBF I don't think it was a specific hate on Yamcha. He was just the first to fall in the "Not interested in you anymore therefor you shall become fodder." Everyone but the saiyan's fell in that category at one point or another. Even Piccolo. Watching Piccolo being reduced to a nanny is probably the lowest point in DBZ for me. I think he should've been more forgiving of them...or give them slight little nods of respect like he did Tienshinhan.

Piccolo retained his status as quite the badass all the way to the Cell saga for me. IMO, he was the best tactician. Even when he was vastly outclassed, he would always be a power player in strategy. He was almost like a green batman. But eventually, the power levels got too crazy for him to hang.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That does not function as a reply to the content you quotted.

Appropriate replies would have been, "Oh sh*t, you're right. I was a total idiot. My bad. Yeah, I see your point. I just overlooked that because I got too engrossed in flexing my e-peen."

Try to properly reply, again. Except actually admit when you screwed up.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: those galaxies are not viewable, period, except for andromeda and a very small-handful, without technology. That is regardless of your proximity to a local star.

That local star problem I described was being able to see other stars within the galaxy depending on how far away you are from a local star.

Those are two different things.

I should not have had to explain that. 🙁

Galaxies are visible to the naked eye, one simpply can't differentiate them from the other heavenly bodies visible in the night sky like planets and stars.

Humiliation and you are funny bedfellows.

Originally posted by dadudemon
*slow-clap*

Congratulations, you can repackage my own points and pretend they are yours.

Here is what I stated on the previous page:

"In order to experience all those other galaxies (most, not all..."

Now try to argue with points other than my own.

Seriously, you really really really suck at this "internet arguing" thing. I genuinely feel sorry for you.

I would also note that viewing those galaxies almost always gas specific conditions which almost always require you to actually know what you are seeing is a galaxy.

Additionally, and the biggest problem with you using my own point to pretend you're making any semblence of a point, is that this list is extremely small and will not, in any way, function to make your over-reaching point of those "objects in space" being something other than local stars in the South Galaxy. Sorry, bro, you failed to overcome my point and only served to strengthen my point. A very small list of observable galaxies does not explain all those heavenly bodies we saw in the film.

Got anything else? lol

Originally posted by dadudemon
The answer to my question is: I didn't "say" or post that. Thank you for conceding?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Still arguing to argue. Your unwitting concession was accepted in the previous post. Try again.

...

Haha, look at this joker trying to defend his theory after getting completely debunked in my previous post.

Galaxies are visible to the naked eye, one simpply can't differentiate them from the other heavenly bodies visible in the night sky like planets and stars.

Humiliation and you are funny bedfellows.

Neither of those two functioned as legit replies. 😬

It is pretty darn clear that you were soundly destroyed. I don't need the confirmation from anyone else.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Wrong. You expressly claimed that galaxies can't be viewed in the local star system. I disproved this silly notion by pointing out a simple wikipedia list of all the galaxies that a human observer from Earth can see. You got debunked, humiliated and broken in one go. I am beginning to think that you might be a masochist that loves the pain.

That was covered previously by me. Hint: you're arguing the same stuff from 2 posts back, now.

Again: "In order to experience all those other galaxies (most, not all..."

Try again.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I am thinking of a new username. dadudemonbreaker would be quite apt, especially after your complete and utter breakdown across 2 different threads that occured recently, neither of them even on the same forum, much less about the same topic.

Well, it's pretty obvious that you've lost since you're just taunting, ranting, and using my own arguments (and pretending they are yours). So I'm fairly confident that our conversation is done.

🙂

I accept your concession on all points. Improve the quality of your posts and arguments. If you respond with more of the same drivel, I'll just ignore it. If you have anything of substance to reply with, feel free to do so and I will continue the conversation.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Piccolo retained his status as quite the badass all the way to the Cell saga for me. IMO, he was the best tactician. Even when he was vastly outclassed, he would always be a power player in strategy. He was almost like a green batman. But eventually, the power levels got too crazy for him to hang.

'tis pretty much why Piccolo was my favorite of the Z fighters (even over Vegeta) until the Buu saga came along. By that point though, I guess Vegeta had to have become my fav because of what they did with Piccolo there, aside from him maiming Babidi which was cool.

But yeah, I agree with the earlier talk about Yamcha as well. Shame we didn't get to see the spirit ball like that more. That, wolf fang fist, and other cool techniques of the like fading into obscurity was pretty lame. Could've at least made Cell use them in one fight or something.

Has anyone seen battle of gods yet? Some amazing fts. Bills and his master flew from one end of the universe to the other in less than 30 min.

LoL. You haven't even read the thread

Shame on you carvs.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Prove that there exists a different translation (other than forum posters simply claiming one exists). Then prove that translation is a more accurate one.

No.

Galan, the only other person of relevance in this particular discussion, has already seen the it, so I feel nothing compelling me toward finding it for you. 👆

Get Astner to translate it for you.

Then prove how that disproves Toriyama's commentary regarding Bills being a Galaxy buster.

I would not claim it would, nor was I even aware that Toriyama commented on Bills' power to destroy a galaxy, nor did I ever actually outright deny that Bills is a galaxy buster. Check my posts.

*clears throat*

Until then, I'll just stick with what translation we have.

I on the other hand will just wait until a more official sub comes out.

Incorrect: Frieza to Cell to Broly to Bills. In that order. Proper powercreep.

Now you're mad.

Also, none of those characters busted a galaxy (Though Bills might have other confirmations) that we saw, and one of them isn't even canon.

There's a difference between blowing up a planet and blowing up dozens of planets without effort, over and over. Hint: that's the difference between Frieza and Kid Buu.

Kid Buu never was conclusively shown doing that in the manga.

*waits for "Baw this is the anime forum"*

Watsa mattah? Was that a little too close to home fer ya? Suprise: you're rather transparent.

Lol, you're still so upset.

The more obvious choice is you were rage posting because someone dared post the idea that Cell could blow up a solar system...because of your petty vs. arguments? wink1

Are you in a contest to see how many times you can appeal to motive someone? 👆

"Rage posting", lol. I wonder who looks angrier right now.

Astner is better at some math,

To the extent that he raped your ass in two separate threads about it yes.

I'm not a troll,

Yes you are. I will admit that you are one of the best trolls on this site, with your sheer skill at subtlety impressing even me, and indeed for a while I was unsure how much of your posts were genuine or not, but over time it has become clear that you are among the most subtle of contrarian trolls. But not as good of a troll as quan. 👆

and you suck at debating (and you always have...what our arguments usually end up being is you responding with a mess after a while because you lose track of what you were doing...).

🙂

Ah yes, here is the part where you demonstrate how two-faced you are. 👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
(in a Nature and Wildlife Narrator's voice)And now we observe an alpha and a beta's interaction behavior. Look at the beta's submissiveness to the alpha's control assertion.

Here is dadudemon sucking my dick, calling me an alpha male.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Untrue. But I'd lose a lot of people I like posting with like...Nemebro. 🙁

More nuzzling my balls.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nemebro is most likely correct. However, until he (Nemebro) is proven right, I choose to agree with your argument, socool8520.

Continued affirmation of my awesomeness.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, this thread blew up. And, Nemebro, you don't look nearly as hideous as I remember you. I think some maturation did you some good. (That's the maniliest way I can say you are looking great these days without being homo....homo).

Admitting he wants to have sex with me.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The OVAs are just...absurdly awesome. Nemebro should love Alucard. We pretty much agree on every other manga. He's just being difficult. One day, he'll admit his love for Alucard.

Admitting he actively endeavors toward emulating me.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Obama won like most of us predicted. And my map was off.

lol! You may want to see a doctor about your jimmies.

Mostly because I do IT work for a living. But thanks for being objective about it.

Admitting I am the best debater of the assorted GDF regulars and probably the person he admires most.

Originally posted by dadudemon
How dare you post a thought out and even-tempered post on the topic instead of knee-jerk reacting. Obama can do no wrong and he's the best thing there is for big businesses!

Same as the above.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Those who know the negative consequences of their morally positive actions and take action anyway are both heroes and role-models.

Admitting I am a hero and a role-model.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I wasn't sweaty or flexing my abs, but it is certainly sexier the way you put it.

More sexual harassment.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nemebro for president.

Admits I should be president.

So really dadudemon, what gives? Why are you so angry? We used to be okay. You once strove to emulate me. Why all the hostility?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Neither of those two functioned as legit replies. 😬

It is pretty darn clear that you were soundly destroyed. I don't need the confirmation from anyone else.

Originally posted by dadudemon

That was covered previously by me. Hint: you're arguing the same stuff from 2 posts back, now.

Again: "In order to experience all those other galaxies (most, not all..."

Try again.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Well, it's pretty obvious that you've lost since you're just taunting, ranting, and using my own arguments (and pretending they are yours). So I'm fairly confident that our conversation is done.

🙂

I accept your concession on all points. Improve the quality of your posts and arguments. If you respond with more of the same drivel, I'll just ignore it. If you have anything of substance to reply with, feel free to do so and I will continue the conversation.

This was pretty much the easiest debate I ever won. Although, to be fair, you weren't the completely useless retard with a decaying mass of fungal matter mixed with ungulate sh1t for a brain that I am used to annihilating on other forums, and you did provide quite a few lulz on the way though. Thanks for that. 👆

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You argued that galaxies weren't visible period. I disproved that notion. You already lost. Move one.

No I didn't, I disproved you twice: even quotted my post. Do I need to start reporting you?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I would not claim it would, nor was I even aware that Toriyama commented on Bills' power to destroy a galaxy, nor did I ever actually outright deny that Bills is a galaxy buster. Check my posts.

You're mistaken: if you wish to contradict the evidence, then you must actually contradict it. Protest as much as you want but it is empty. Until then, you're just relegated to a whiny, raging, vs. forum, crier.

You know how you and Blax like to copy Oliver North by calling me a contrarian? In reality, both of you more closely match that definition.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kid Buu never was conclusively shown doing that in the manga.

*waits for "Baw this is the anime forum"*

So your argument is Kid Buu was not shown to easily be able to destroy planets, right? lol

Originally posted by NemeBro
To the extent that he raped your ass in two separate threads about it yes.

Okay, I'll fill you in:

The only two threads that appeared to do anything like that were both threads I mocked him in. The first thread was me calling out his bullsh*t to see what type of rage reply he would post: an effort I was encouraged to do by others on another site. The second thread, in the GDF, was a coordinated effort (same group...they really don't like him) to make Astner rage because his thread was clearly a troll thread that the mods would close. Get on my level.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes you are. I will admit that you are one of the best trolls on this site, with your sheer skill at subtlety impressing even me, and indeed for a while I was unsure how much of your posts were genuine or not, but over time it has become clear that you are among the most subtle of contrarian trolls. But not as good of a troll as quan. 👆

Ah yes, here is the part where you demonstrate how two-faced you are. 👆

Here is dadudemon sucking my dick, calling me an alpha male.

More nuzzling my balls.

Continued affirmation of my awesomeness.

Admitting he wants to have sex with me.

Admitting he actively endeavors toward emulating me.

Admitting I am the best debater of the assorted GDF regulars and probably the person he admires most.

Same as the above.

Admitting I am a hero and a role-model.

More sexual harassment.

Admits I should be president.

So really dadudemon, what gives? Why are you so angry? We used to be okay. You once strove to emulate me. Why all the hostility?

So you have those quotes saved? Should I be creeped out? Also, most of those quotes you've taken out of context or are just simply using them incorrectly.

But the "suck at debating" was a commentary on how you reach a point in arguing where you can't keep up anymore. It is something that always happens.

Who is arguing for what?

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're mistaken: if you wish to contradict the evidence, then you must actually contradict it. Protest as much as you want but it is empty. Until then, you're just relegated to a whiny, raging, vs. forum, crier.

Mistaken about what now? That I was not aware that Toriyama allegedly commented on Bills' power? That's true.

As is that I never denied Bills was a galaxy buster.

All I did was preach caution and patience. 👆

You know how you and Blax like to copy Oliver North by calling me a contrarian? In reality, both of you more closely match that definition.

Hey now, you're leaving out some key accusers, like Omega Vision.

That many others have come to the same conclusion is irrelevant.

Also, "No u" ey?

Hmm, this seems familiar...

Originally posted by NemeBro
Another example of your contrarian trolling.... (Irrelevant shit)

Perhaps I am wrong about you, and if I am I apologise. Either way, it doesn't really matter to me, I can't really hate on someone for doing something I also do. 131

That I take contrary viewpoints for the lulz is old news and something I myself owned up to. In a conversation with you no less.

I do not deign to know Blax's motives.

So your argument is Kid Buu was not shown to easily be able to destroy planets, right? lol

On Kid Buu's capabilities...

Easily destroy a planet, yes!

Easily destroying dozens of planets over and over again? Nope! Not in the manga anyway.

Okay, I'll fill you in:

The only two threads that appeared to do anything like that were both threads I mocked him in. The first thread was me calling out his bullsh*t to see what type of rage reply he would post: an effort I was encouraged to do by others on another site. The second thread, in the GDF, was a coordinated effort (same group...they really don't like him) to make Astner rage because his thread was clearly a troll thread that the mods would close. Get on my level.

Aka "I was made to look like a tool online and am making up bullshit to save face".

So you have those quotes saved?

No, I literally just typed "NemeBro" in the search function under the author "dadudemon". You talk about me a lot. Weirdo.

Should I be creeped out?

Probably.

Also, most of those quotes you've taken out of context or are just simply using them incorrectly.

Stop lying. You love me.

But the "suck at debating" was a commentary on how you reach a point in arguing where you can't keep up anymore. It is something that always happens.

Posting more is not posting better.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Who is arguing for what?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Mistaken about what now? That I was not aware that Toriyama allegedly commented on Bills' power? That's true.

As is that I never denied Bills was a galaxy buster.

All I did was preach caution and patience. 👆

No, that was a vs. forum fit you were throwing. I could smell that bullshit from a mile away. See, just as expected, you infested this thread with your vs. forum bullshit. Man, they should pay me for this because I'm like a mother ****in' crystal ball.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hey now, you're leaving out some key accusers, like Omega Vision.

Oh, you mean the person that also copied ON, too?

Originally posted by NemeBro
That many others have come to the same conclusion is irrelevant.

Yes, ooooh so many. dur

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, "No u" ey?

Hmm, this seems familiar...

It should. The point was not the "no u" portion, the point was you're unoriginal.

I picture you as a person that admires me and has tried to emulate me as you grew up, over the years. You come off more as a poor copy, at best, and cute, at worst (seems it should be the opposite, right? WRONG!).

Originally posted by NemeBro
That I take contrary viewpoints for the lulz is old news and something I myself owned up to. In a conversation with you no less.

I do not deign to know Blax's motives.

WEEEEE!

Originally posted by NemeBro
On Kid Buu's capabilities...

Easily destroy a planet, yes!

Easily destroying dozens of planets over and over again? Nope! Not in the manga anyway.

Cool, but I'll be over here thinking he is more powerful than SPC who is a comfortable star-system buster. You be over there in your vs. forumz, raging at people. Mkay?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Aka "I was made to look like a tool online and am making up bullshit to save face".

No one tells the truth on the internet, ever. I also never sent Astner any PMs after said thread was closed revealing the trollerly (which did not had hidden eastereggs to indicate I was trolling him...just in case some derps like you said, "herp, you got owned!"😉.

Man, that was too much convoluted sarcasm. 🙁

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, I literally just typed "NemeBro" in the search function under the author "dadudemon". You talk about me a lot. Weirdo.

Yeah, it couldn't be that we interact on these forums once a quarter and those search results reflected that,or anything. Nope, definitely not that.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Probably.

Too bad, I'm not. I was flattered instead. You lose.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Stop lying. You love me.

Whether or not I possess love for you is irrelevant to the section you quotted.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I reach a point when I get bored of raping you in the ass, yes.

Oh, those are tears of joy blurring your vision* and not tears of the anal fissure kind? I have been wrong about you, this whole time.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Posting more is not posting better.

Making sweeping generalizations is usually a bad idea (do you see how clever that sentence is? I mean, damn, I'm good).

*My humor can be a bit above most people's grasp so I have to explain this one: that means you cannot focus on the words on the screen which is supposed to smugly explain how you seem to lose track of what is going on in some of our more lengthy discussions.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Who is arguing for what?

Instead of being a dick, I'll explain it to you:

I posited that Perfect Cell was a star system buster because he claimed so. I then said that the powercreep was proper because, by the time we reach Bills who is exponentially stronger than Perfect Cell, Bills is a supposed galaxy buster.

So we go from Casual Planet Busters liker Frieza, to Star System busters like Perfect Cell, to Galaxy Busters like Bills. That gave Nemebro a heart attack because I am positive there was some arguing he was doing in a vs. forum somewhere regarding Cell: he cannot have Cell being a star-system buster because that causes him to lose an argument, mostly likely.

Nemebro is an honorable fellow that wouldn't post with such agendas, shame on you dadudemon!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Instead of being a dick, I'll explain it to you:

I posited that Perfect Cell was a star system buster because he claimed so. I then said that the powercreep was proper because, by the time we reach Bills who is exponentially stronger than Perfect Cell, Bills is a supposed galaxy buster.

So we go from Casual Planet Busters liker Frieza, to Star System busters like Perfect Cell, to Galaxy Busters like Bills. That gave Nemebro a heart attack because I am positive there was some arguing he was doing in a vs. forum somewhere regarding Cell: he cannot have Cell being a star-system buster because that causes him to lose an argument, mostly likely.

In relation to Cell's Statement and other such things, Cell stated he had enough Ki to wipe away the Solar System. Can he actually wipe the Solar System away? It depends. Some people say no, but he has stated that he has the Ki to do so. This means that he has the POWER to do so, but CANNOT destroy it due to the radius of the Solar System. Can Bills destroy the Solar System? Yes. He's the first character we know that has enough power to actually make a blast big enough to destroy the Solar System. Is he compared to SSj4 Gogeta, who should be much stronger?

Let me explain this. In GT, SSj4 Gogeta is above Omega Shenron, who was stated that he can destroy the Galaxy via Chain Reaction. If we take this feat seriously, SSj4 Gogeta is above him, thus he should have more than enough power to also destroy the Solar System, whether he can make a blast big enough to do so.

A > B > C

B can destroy the Solar System.
A cannot make a blast big enough to do so, but is way beyond the appropriate level of having Ki enough to destroy it.
C is the bear minimum of having Ki enough to destroy the Solar System but not having enough Ki to do so.

B= Bills
A = SSj4 Gogeta
C = Cell/SSj2 Kid Gohan

"inserting a link in which I cannot here from the Super Exciting Guide for DBZ"

Support evidence: That Guide excerpted below states that Super Saiyan 2's or "Super Saiyan Grade 5's"... "power is enough to push back even Cell's energy bullet, which had enough force to blow away the Solar System!"

Key word: ENOUGH FORCE to blow away the Solar System. Can he do it? NO. He had enough Ki/Force to do so but cannot make the blast radius.

If we take people above Mystic Gohan +, they should easily be in a level far above SSj2 Kid Gohan and SPC, but they cannot destroy Solar Systems because only Bills had the capacity to make blasts big enough to do so. They have the Ki capable of it, but not the techniques.

Hope that makes sense.

Originally posted by SynDoItGently
As it's my first post here, I would like to say that I am an experienced debater in other forums.

In relation to Cell's Statement and other such things, Cell stated he had enough Ki to wipe away the Solar System. Can he actually wipe the Solar System away? It depends. Some people say no, but he has stated that he has the Ki to do so. This means that he has the POWER to do so, but CANNOT destroy it due to the radius of the Solar System. Can Bills destroy the Solar System? Yes. He's the first character we know that has enough power to actually make a blast big enough to destroy the Solar System. Is he compared to SSj4 Gogeta, who should be much stronger?

Let me explain this. In GT, SSj4 Gogeta is above Omega Shenron, who was stated that he can destroy the Galaxy via Chain Reaction. If we take this feat seriously, SSj4 Gogeta is above him, thus he should have more than enough power to also destroy the Solar System, whether he can make a blast big enough to do so.

A > B > C

B can destroy the Solar System.
A cannot make a blast big enough to do so, but is way beyond the appropriate level of having Ki enough to destroy it.
C is the bear minimum of having Ki enough to destroy the Solar System but not having enough Ki to do so.

B= Bills
A = SSj4 Gogeta
C = Cell/SSj2 Kid Gohan

"inserting a link in which I cannot here from the Super Exciting Guide for DBZ"

Support evidence: That Guide excerpted below states that Super Saiyan 2's or "Super Saiyan Grade 5's"... "power is enough to push back even Cell's energy bullet, which had enough force to blow away the Solar System!"

Key word: ENOUGH FORCE to blow away the Solar System. Can he do it? NO. He had enough Ki/Force to do so but cannot make the blast radius.

If we take people above Mystic Gohan +, they should easily be in a level far above SSj2 Kid Gohan and SPC, but they cannot destroy Solar Systems because only Bills had the capacity to make blasts big enough to do so. They have the Ki capable of it, but not the techniques.

Hope that makes sense.

If what you said about the guide is true, and the guide is official, that would mean SSJ2 and above can destroy star systems (I am ignoring your obviously erroneous reading of those words: to put it simply, you're saying that the color blue is not actually blue because it does not possess enough blueness).

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