Beta Ray Bill vs Doomsday

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I have, yes. Even though it's hardly relevant to DoS Superman and Doomsday (go figure).

Superman is able to turn it up to a notch when he stops holding back, sure. But that power isn't exclusive to Superman.

To the extent superman does? I would wait when you can post the fight where one being can't even hurt another being after hours of fight and even hurts his hand punching him, then he goes all out and kills the same being in a few punches while already dying.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
DoS version of Clark was hurt by a gas station explosion wasn't he?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I never really saw DoS Doomsday as being that impressive, if he showed up and attacked Superman in a comic 15 years later he would probably be sent packing in a few panels.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I recall Superman beating stronger versions of Doomsday with much greater ease, in fact the last story arc in Action Comics before the reboot had Superman, Steel, Eradicator, Supergirl, and Superboy fighting tons of Doomsdays who were all stronger than the DoS version and specifically created to give them extra powers and this Doomslayer guy who was stronger than all of them.

Originally posted by dmills
I'm aware of that. It's an old hackneyed comic trope that I wish would die a horrible death. It's in no way limited to Doomsday, but several high profile team busters in general where they gradually lose effectiveness with every appearance.

Edit: Perhaps something could/should be said for the "heroes" getting better over time (something that Superman has alluded to a few times), not necessarily the villains becoming less effective.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Funny then, it was referenced again in Superman: Day of Doom in 2003 and then DCU: Legacies in 2011 and neither showed superman packing doomsday in a few panels.

Are you even paying attention?

I said if Doomsday at his DoS levels had attacked the Superman who existed in, say, 2008 instead of 1992, he would be sent packing.

Then you're recalling falsely. Even the weakest version of Doomsday, doomsday Rex was beating superman and he was just a clone untill he weakened himself. If you think Doomsday was so much weaker, explain him slaughtering hundreds of green lanterns when they were much more powerful than Johns' green lanterns and surviving a guardian's suicide when Guardians were legit skyfathers at a weaker state.

That was Gog Wars which was the strongest version of Doomsday, as opposed to DoS which was the second weakest.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Are you even paying attention?

That was Gog Wars which was the strongest version of Doomsday, as opposed to DoS which was the second weakest.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you? You are too fixated on a low showing.

DCU: Legacies which was published in 2011 disagrees.

I'm not talking about reprinting the story or flashing back to it. I mean if the story occurred in 2008 instead of 1992.

WTF are you talking about? Gog wars Doomsday was a clone of the original doomsday who was created on Apokolips. I;m talking about Doomsday in Doomsday annual when he was killing hundreds of green lanterns and taking Guardians' suicide blast millions of years before DOS and when he was killed by Radiant. Gog wars Doomsday isn't the most powerful doomsday BTW, that's H/P Doomsday.

Doomsday Rex < DoS Doomsday < average Post-Imperiex clone Doomsday < OWAW Doomsday < H/P Doomsday < Gog Wars Doomsday.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I'm not talking about reprinting the story or flashing back to it. I mean if the story occurred in 2008 instead of 1992.

Doomsday Rex < DoS Doomsday < average Post-Imperiex clone Doomsday < OWAW Doomsday < H/P Doomsday < Gog Wars Doomsday.

Gog wars doomsday is the least impressive doomsday so far. He was knocked out by a blast alongside a heavily depowered superman who couldn't even fly and took decades to break through a mile thick wall of granite.

FYI, H/P doomsday and OWAW doomsday are one and the same as I've told you before.

Endless mike is right.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean 2008's superman would beat DOS doomsday?

Yeah, pretty easily too. That was my entire point.

Should we compare how 1992' superman did against common opponents with 2008's superman?

Because those opponents couldn't have gotten stronger either, right? 🙄

Gog wars doomsday is the least impressive doomsday so far. He was knocked out by a blast alongside a heavily depowered superman who couldn't even fly and took decades to break through a mile thick wall of granite.

*snip*

So you can use a low showing from one story arc to define the character there, but you ignore the gas station thing for Superman in DoS... no hypocrisy there.

FYI, H/P doomsday and OWAW doomsday are one and the same as I've told you before.

They're the same physical being, but their showings are different. Just like OWAW Superman is often referred to as being a differently written Superman with higher showings compared to other arcs even though it's the same character.

Originally posted by Endless Mike

They're the same physical being, but their showings are different. Just like OWAW Superman is often referred to as being a differently written Superman with higher showings compared to other arcs even though it's the same character.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Yeah, pretty easily too. That was my entire point.

Just like OWAW Superman is often referred to as being a differently written Superman with higher showings compared to other arcs even though it's the same character.

DOS is more powerful than Rex, and could easily be argued as being more powerful than Gog Wars, tbh.