Originally posted by carver9there's another time with Skrull Storm, but same thing
This is the only time radiation has damaged Gladiator outside of the scan you showed and the only reason it hurt him was due to the physical contact he made with it.http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9697/ig3158eq.jpg
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1082/ig3160bk.jpg
Radiation isn't exactly shown to be in the "air" in comics. It usually, and by usually I mean all the time has an aura around it showing the field where it's radiating if you will.
Plus, the radiation would have likely killed the forest if it was just leaking outside the plant designed to contain radiation
Originally posted by UniOmni
It's impossible for fans of Marvel and fans of DC to come together on DOS Superman and DD.WE KNOW Superman has become significantly more powerful since freaking 1993!!
Every other JLA comic before Nu52 seemed to drape such platitudes all over the paper.But since most DC top tier heroes keep pace with Superman from back then, it makes it harder.
Frankly, i don't believe Superman from 1993 can hold a candle to Beta Ray Bill.
That Superman would be smashed into paste by Bill, with or without the hammer.
Superman before the relaunch would have the edge due to speed.
DOS DD?
Bill beats him into a coma, just like weakass Superman from twenty years ago did! The hammer blows would snap those bone protrusions like a bear breaks a picnic basket.
Later, more recent incarnations definitely hold the edge tho.And yes, a driven Beta would smash that piss poor incarnation of the JLA.
He'd take all that firepower they poured onto DD, and flip it back onto them only amplified, just like he did to Stardust.
DOS Superman > Bill in almost every way.
Superman has always been said to be stronger than Thor throughout history. From Pre Crisis to Byrne Era to Current times.
If speed kills then why you say that Bill will smash Supes to paste?
DOS DD smoked legitimate high heralds like nothing (including MM).
Here's a contradiction:
DOS Superman was equals to CM in physicality.
End of Post Crisis Superman was close to equals to CM physically.
DOS Superman was far weaker than the end of Post Crisis Superman.
Thus CM>>>>>>CM
Similar arguments say MM>>>>>>>>>>>>MM
Since we reach a contradiction. DOS Superman wasn't far weaker than end of post crisis Superman. DOS DD feats precedes that of DOS comic. In other words, his feats before that was at minimum high herald level.
Originally posted by armedforbattle
You are using ABC logic h1
I used the worst kind too. It's not to support me but rather to show others that it is silly to use such logic.
In other words, I was being sarcastic in showing how silly the logic is.
DOS Superman was weaker than later Superman but not that damn much weaker. Otherwise you can't explain away how CM, WW, etc. stayed nearly the same distance from Superman in physicality. Did they get amps too?
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Thank you very much for posting the scans, you just saved me the work of looking for them.Lets see
Scan # 1 Fight is fine, Gladiator is fine as He is not exposed to "certain radiation"
Scan # 2 Fight is fine, Gladiator is fine as He is not exposed to "certain radiation"
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator02.jpg
Scan # 3 Fight is fine, Gladiator is fine as He is not exposed to "certain radiation"
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator03.jpg
Scan # 4 Check this one out carefully, at the middle of the scan there is that little thing going "Klang, Klang"
The impact took the wind out of both, So now it starts getting interesting because BOTH got up at the SAME TIME, but there is this thing going "Klang, Klang", which means that Gladiator is already being exposed to "certain radiation" and what happens?
He can make a hole in Hulk's chest but not on his palm? Maybe someone is getting weaker by a reactor going critical nearby. Um, Hulk actually feeds on this thing, not sure if He even stated in this same comic that He is all about radiation. I think is part of the plot for a reason. Otherwise why the writer will bother to tell me that they are fighting on a radiated zone, or that a reactor is going critical? just because?
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator04.jpg
The rest is a weakened Gladiator.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator06.jpg
What else you need?
And about Deadpool, The longer Hulk is separated from banner the less stable he becomes, so you go figure that one out.
Hulk wasn't being powered by the radiation as far as I recall.
Comic characters tank attacks that hurt them with their hands fairly often, and Hulk was going through fluctuating durability where items that shouldn't hurt him, did.
The radiation weakness only came into play when Gladiator's face was exposed and slammed into the reactor. You think any simple ambient radiation is enough to weaken him? Heck, it wasn't even hinted. He was only weakened when he was zapped like the Skrull Storm scene.
Hulk even literally says that the radiant radiation which weakens him is found in the core of a Nuclear Reactor (Not sure that's scientifically accurate but whatever), which he exposes Gladiator to by shoving his face through the shielding. Making the intent of the scene very clear. Read the scans more carefully, it will just save us all time.
The dumb thing is apparently Gladiator is weak to the radiation released by his own eyebeams...
The reactor came into play when he was smashed into it. Apparently you can weaken Gladiator with his own eyes though. Which if Hulk didn't say it, it'd just be him being stupid enough to keep firing and injuring himself in the process, and is possible in any fight.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThat's what I'm talking about.
I think it only harmed him when it backfired into his brain or whatever.
Apparently Glads would have been fine had his eyebeams not been the radiation needed to harm him though... or something. They didn't even need to add that bit. Him firing his eyebeams that tore through Hulk back into his eyes would have been enough.
Either way, I guess it is, so it really doesn't matter. Just silly though that the feedback would release that sort of radiation since you'd think that would damage him everytime...
His damage soak in getting beaten half to death is pretty ridiculous though. The Thor fight, the Hulk fight, the P5 fight. If you need someone to take a beating, look no farther.
Originally posted by h1a8Comments made that DD is faster than flash (not as fast as flash but phucking faster). You may call hyperbole, but it's writer's intent buddy.
No, no phuck that. If you're going to be claiming that someone is as fast or faster then phucking Flash, then they'd better damn well have the showings to back that up. Not just some hyperbole or writer's intent.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It isn't.
Originally posted by DTM
So BRB > Superman, Maxima, Martian Manhunter, Guy Garder, Supergirl (Matrix), Booster Gold, Fire, Ice, Blue Beetle and LexCorp weaponry? Really? Because thats what it took to take down Doomsday, and only barely that.
Superman is the only one who even scratched Doomsday. Don't pretend like it was a team-effort. Maxima took 2 hits, the rest were useless and then big blue took it home.
