Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Have you read Nefaria's appearances against the Avengers in the 70's and 80's? The Count was beating Thor and Wonder Man like children at the same time.
Wonder Man, yeah, but Thor was holding his own.
As much as I want to say Nefaria stomps, to be fair Hulk could pretty much manhandle Iron Man, Wonder Man, or Iron Man too. And even Thor. 🙁
Originally posted by cdtmand Scarlet Witch and Vision? Nefaria stunned Thor twice and others had to take Nefaria on whilst Thor recovered. In fact if Vision had not done his Sky drop, it was all over.
Wonder Man, yeah, but Thor was holding his own.As much as I want to say Nefaria stomps, to be fair Hulk could pretty much manhandle Iron Man, Wonder Man, or Iron Man too. And even Thor. 🙁
Originally posted by Anthony Stark
and Scarlet Witch and Vision? Nefaria stunned Thor twice and others had to take Nefaria on whilst Thor recovered. In fact if Vision had not done his Sky drop, it was all over.
How many times has Hulk taken on good, strong teams and given them problems?
And how many times have people said "Wanda could have ended this if she did X", but she does something stupid, or nothing at all? 😛
I mean, the most she did was cause him pain, when she had a ton of ways she could have ended it, which is a staple of overpowered characters. And still, the team was holding their own and causing damage...
Originally posted by cdtm
How many times has Hulk taken on good, strong teams and given them problems?And how many times have people said "Wanda could have ended this if she did X", but she does something stupid, or nothing at all? 😛
I mean, the most she did was cause him pain, when she had a ton of ways she could have ended it, which is a staple of overpowered characters. And still, the team was holding their own and causing damage...
Not really at the end, he'd beaten them. That was why vision had to sky drop. Nefaria had beaten Thor twice and discovered he couln't lift his hammer. Ko'd Wondy twice and Iron Man twice, Cap had, had to give the shield away. He had toasted them.
Originally posted by Anthony Stark
Not really at the end, he'd beaten them. That was why vision had to sky drop. Nefaria had beaten Thor twice and discovered he couln't lift his hammer. Ko'd Wondy twice and Iron Man twice, Cap had, had to give the shield away. He had toasted them.
Fair play at the end Thor and Iron man had staggered him for Visions Sky drop. But he was getting up and the implication was he was fine.
Originally posted by cdtm
Wonder Man, yeah, but Thor was holding his own.As much as I want to say Nefaria stomps, to be fair Hulk could pretty much manhandle Iron Man, Wonder Man, or Iron Man too. And even Thor. 🙁
Nefaria palmed a full on Mjolnir strike from Thor like it was nothing.
How much power do you think that took?
Originally posted by Anthony Stark
What did WWH do to put him above Nefaria? Remind me as I don't recall him laying the smackdown on a team that Included Thor, Scarlet Witch, Wonderman, Iron Man, Vision, Captain America, Black Panther and Wasp, which Nefaria did. In fact he beat them up and went off to pick up chicks at one point.
Nefaria lost that battle via KO. Also, the Hulk has given teams of Avengers fits. He battled Wonder Man, Vision, Iron man and the Scarlet Witch at the same time.
Originally posted by Dampyre
Nefaria lost that battle via KO. Also, the Hulk has given teams of Avengers fits. He battled Wonder Man, Vision, Iron man and the Scarlet Witch at the same time.
Teams of Avengers yes, but not that level team of Avengers. Thor himself is a match for Hulk, add in Wonder Man, Vision, Iron Man, Capt America, Black Panther and Scarlet Witch, and I dont see Hulk doing so well against this team.
Originally posted by DTM
Teams of Avengers yes, but not that level team of Avengers. Thor himself is a match for Hulk, add in Wonder Man, Vision, Iron Man, Capt America, Black Panther and Scarlet Witch, and I dont see Hulk doing so well against this team.
Thor's been manhandled by Hulk many times.
And Wanda and Vision weren't exactly fighting at full capacity.. The rest of the team ranges from a non factor, to a minimal factor (Wonder Man and Iron Man aren't really in Thor's league as heavy hitters. Both Hulk and Thor could take them at the same time on a good day.)
Originally posted by Anthony Stark
Yup, Vision dropped on him from a few miles up at some ludicrous density. Hulk has been knocked out by Iron Man alone remember in a Savage state.
Yes, and he's also battled Iron man along with other Avenegrs all by himself. The Hulk has a very good record against Iron Man overall.
That KO was a sucker punch on a dazed and blinded Hulk anyway. Plus, Iron Man used up all his power and fell unconscious afterwards.
Originally posted by cdtm
Thor's been manhandled by Hulk many times.And Wanda and Vision weren't exactly fighting at full capacity.. The rest of the team ranges from a non factor, to a minimal factor (Wonder Man and Iron Man aren't really in Thor's league as heavy hitters. Both Hulk and Thor could take them at the same time on a good day.)
Wonderman has beaten Abomination easily before..... Vision was fighting at full capacity, Nefaria had too much energy for him to be able to phase into his body.