Originally posted by DTM
Yep, my opinion, just as what youre saying is your opinion.And yes Hulk has fought teams of Avengers before, but not THAT level of Avengers team.
I know he didn't...he fought a much more powerful line up. Lol.
Namor, Hercules, Ironman, Wonderman.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers40.jpg
Or we can use this fight.
She Hulk, Namor, Wonderman, Vision, Ironman, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hercules, BN...etc, etc...
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers47.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers48.jpg
Ironman, Vision, Ionic Wonderman, Wanda.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers71.jpg
"The monster has the power to match and even exceed their power" (Hulk tanks an combined attack from all of them).
Originally posted by carver9
I know he didn't...he fought a much more powerful line up. Lol.Namor, Hercules, Ironman, Wonderman.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers40.jpg
Or we can use this fight.
She Hulk, Namor, Wonderman, Vision, Ironman, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hercules, BN...etc, etc...
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers47.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers48.jpg
Yep, am familiar with both fights, IMO neither of those teams is the equal to Nefarias lineup (Thor holds ALOT of weight, neither of those teams have them), and Hulk didnt win either of those fights to boot. Not to mention, the Avengerrs in both stories were trying to contain him, not kill him, Nefaria wont take things nearly so lightly against him. So yep, Team Level Avengers trumps Hulk, even WWHulk, to me. 🙂
Originally posted by DTM
Yep, am familiar with both fights, IMO neither of those teams is the equal to Nefarias lineup (Thor holds ALOT of weight, neither of those teams have them), and Hulk didnt win either of those fights to boot. Not to mention, the Avengerrs in both stories were trying to contain him, not kill him, Nefaria wont take things nearly so lightly against him. So yep, Team Level Avengers trumps Hulk, even WWHulk, to me. 🙂
Uuuummm, that's the same Herc that matched Thor in a fight. That team would merk the line up you voted against Hulk on. Just admit when you are wrong bro.
Lol...in the last scan I post, it states they were going to take Hulk out any way possible (even said kill him).
Provide proof that the avengers tried to kill Nef. Scans. Nef even said Ironman (lol) was a major threat.
Herc is close to Thor, true, but ask anyone here, Herc vs. Thor, Thor takes it virtually every time. And I didnt say The Avengers were trying to kill Nefaria, I said Nefaria wouldnt hold back in fighting Hulk, or take any issues with killing him (as the Avengers would, and did, hence their clear holding back against him, especially in the second set of links you posted). And again, Hulk didnt win either of the fights you posted, none of his opponents was even knocked out.
And Sheesh already, what is with you and quanchi, if its not agreeing with your opinion, its Wrong. Learn to accept others opinions already. Clearly youre a Hulk Fanboy, so sorry if I dont look at your opinions completely unbiased, especially since I myself am very familiar with these events as well. I was ejoying debating with you man, but with that idiotic Just Admit That Youre Wrong comment just popped you into the Annoying As Hell quanchi level, and thats rrally too bad.
@DTM...
Nothing in those scans was stated as them holding back, it said the opposite.
Of course Thor would get the majority against Herc and that's due to versatility but when they both "fought in character", Thor almost got choked to sleep and almost lost if he didn't conjure lightning. The fight was close.
Again, why bring up the Avengers (that said they were going to kill Hulk) holding back when you can't even provide proof that they were going all out against Nef? What's the point buddy? Also, guess what, Hulk wouldn't hold back against Nef either and looking at both fights, Savage Hulk is even stronger than Nef. The combine might of Ironman, Ionic Wonderman, Vision, and Wanda did nothing to the Hulk whereas, it was stated by Nef himself that Ironman "alone" is a threat.
Hulk didn't need to win those fights (and lol, Nef didn't win his fight either, hell, Thor was wrecking him solo)..him taking on the combine force of that team and actually having the advantage over them proves a lot.
Lol, its not the fact that you are disagree with me. It's you always going in Hulk threads saying he loses but never provides one shed of proof and when people show you evidence that goes against what you say, you ALWAYS discredit the scans and make up your own context. I still like you though, I think you are a reasonable/non flaming debater (even though you are bias against the Hulk). I'm headed to bed. Holla.
Originally posted by DTM
Dude, for the 4th time, I VOTED FOR WWHULK TO WIN HERE. Do you not get that. So dont say Im ALWAYS Discrediting Hulk, I LIKE Hulk, Ifrequently vote For Hulk. What I dont like is people like you ALWAYS supporting Hulk, NO MATTER WHAT, and calling everyone who doesnt agree with you WRONG!
I don't always vote for Hulk. I have voted against him PLENTY of times.
Yes, when the skies run red with blood, and the seas boil to steam, you do. Please. When it comes to Hulk (as it is with quanchi and Thanos) you dont believe anyone short of Galactus takes him. Youre a fanboy, plain and simple, and thats fine, but when you make claims that other people are either Wrong, or biased against your guy (unfoundedly), thats just plain wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
@DTM...Nothing in those scans was stated as them holding back, it said the opposite.
Of course Thor would get the majority against Herc and that's due to versatility but when they both "fought in character", Thor almost got choked to sleep and almost lost if he didn't conjure lightning. The fight was close.
Again, why bring up the Avengers (that said they were going to kill Hulk) holding back when you can't even provide proof that they were going all out against Nef? What's the point buddy? Also, guess what, Hulk wouldn't hold back against Nef either and looking at both fights, Savage Hulk is even stronger than Nef. The combine might of Ironman, Ionic Wonderman, Vision, and Wanda did nothing to the Hulk whereas, it was stated by Nef himself that Ironman "alone" is a threat.
Hulk didn't need to win those fights (and lol, Nef didn't win his fight either, hell, Thor was wrecking him solo)..him taking on the combine force of that team and actually having the advantage over them proves a lot.
Lol, its not the fact that you are disagree with me. It's you always going in Hulk threads saying he loses but never provides one shed of proof and when people show you evidence that goes against what you say, you ALWAYS discredit the scans and make up your own context. I still like you though, I think you are a reasonable/non flaming debater (even though you are bias against the Hulk). I'm headed to bed. Holla.
In one of the scans you posted it said they were holding back.
They did not wanted to kill the Hulk
and Namor was weakened for being in the desert.
Now here the avengers are actually talking about it.
Please get this, the Avengers most of the time hold back against the Hulk.
It even says right here, We have the advantage on sheer physical power, but his rage gives him the advantage. He was fighting like a maniac
Namor was weak
And to be honest if You have read the arc, it seems pretty much like the other avengers were getting in Hercs way. But that last part with herc is my opinion not an actual fact.
AND BTW, I DID VOTED FOR HULK TOO.
Originally posted by DTM
Yes, when the skies run red with blood, and the seas boil to steam, you do. Please. When it comes to Hulk (as it is with quanchi and Thanos) you dont believe anyone short of Galactus takes him. Youre a fanboy, plain and simple, and thats fine, but when you make claims that other people are either Wrong, or biased against your guy (unfoundedly), thats just plain wrong.
Go to the Odin vs WBH fist fight thread where I said Odin stomps. Go to the Zeus vs Hulk fist fight thread and look at me saying Hulk loses. Hell, I even gave Superman the edge via bfring...Thor, Cable, Magneto, Sentry. Anyone that can grab Hulk by the feet at super speed and toss his a**, I give them the edge. It's when bfr is off (even though the skyfathers would still stomp).Go to these threads and then come back and holla at me. 😛
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
In one of the scans you posted it said they were holding back.They did not wanted to kill the Hulk
and Namor was weakened for being in the desert.
Now here the avengers are actually talking about it.
Please get this, the Avengers most of the time hold back against the Hulk.
It even says right here, We have the advantage on sheer physical power, but his rage gives him the advantage. He was fighting like a maniac
Namor was weak
And to be honest if You have read the arc, it seems pretty much like the other avengers were getting in Hercs way. But that last part with herc is my opinion not an actual fact.
Thank You Sir!
Originally posted by carver9
Go to the Odin vs WBH fist fight thread where I said Odin stomps. Go to the Zeus vs Hulk fist fight thread and look at me saying Hulk loses. Hell, I even gave Superman the edge via bfring...Thor, Cable, Magneto, Sentry. Anyone that can grab Hulk by the feet at super speed and toss his a**, I give them the edge. It's when bfr is off (even though the skyfathers would still stomp.Go to these threads and then come back and holla at me. 😛
Well, you admit Hulk cant beat a Skyfather, clearly youre not as biased for him as I thought.
Uummmmm, his scans didn't go against anything I said. During the beginning, there could be an argument made that they were holding back, but during the middle of the fight when they said they would do anything to stop him, even kill him, that's when that argument is thrown out the window and Hulk still matched them while getting stronger. Thanks for trying though Rao...I'm gone foreal though, you all have a good night.
Originally posted by carver9
Uummmmm, his scans didn't go against anything I said. During the beginning, there could be an argument made that they were holding back, but during the middle of the fight when they said they would do anything to stop him, even kill him, that's when that argument is thrown out the window and Hulk still matched them while getting stronger. Thanks for trying though Rao...I'm gone foreal though, you all have a good night.
At the end the avengers matched the ferocity of the Hulk and Hercules was about to kill the Hulk, when Betty stop them from doing so.
It is until issue 322 that the avengers decide to match Hulk's rage, and go for the kill when Hulk got defeated. most of the scans posted are from 321.
