Originally posted by juggermanThey have also failed and it's been used against them as well. How would Skynet possibly have access to their history ?
It was muddled to the human who lack resources to research such things. Skynet would undoubttedly know the history. It does avoid the thread and normally i'd agree it should not be used but for Skynet it's how they roll. They've used time travel to eliminate opposition in 75% of the movies and even in the t.v. series
Originally posted by quanchi112
They have also failed and it's been used against them as well. How would Skynet possibly have access to their history ?
It was used against them but i don't really see how Skynet would be doing that. In this created universe Skynet and the Matrix co-rule. That means Skynet would have been developed with all the knowledge and info of that world just like it was in it's own universe and would have access to every information source. Iirc they said it infected every computer and basically absorbed every piece of information from them. They would have easily learned when and where the "Solar Machines" were created and by whom
Originally posted by juggermanNo, I take it as a merged history with only affecting the pc's from their own universe. They wouldn't know the dates and even if it's so they'd have stolen or copied the time traveling tech by now to combat against such a threat.
It was used against them but i don't really see how Skynet would be doing that. In this created universe Skynet and the Matrix co-rule. That means Skynet would have been developed with all the knowledge and info of that world just like it was in it's own universe and would have access to every information source. Iirc they said it infected every computer and basically absorbed every piece of information from them. They would have easily learned when and where the "Solar Machines" were created and by whom
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I take it as a merged history with only affecting the pc's from their own universe. They wouldn't know the dates and even if it's so they'd have stolen or copied the time traveling tech by now to combat against such a threat.
I see it as they both came about at around the same time hence their truce. How would they follow when it only allows "living" things to travel? Matrix has no flesh covered robots
Originally posted by juggermanIf it's a merged universe I see no reason why they can't adapt to this technology. I still don't see it this way but maybe the threadstarter will clarify.
I see it as they both came about at around the same time hence their truce. How would they follow when it only allows "living" things to travel? Matrix has no flesh covered robots
Originally posted by quanchi112
If it's a merged universe I see no reason why they can't adapt to this technology. I still don't see it this way but maybe the threadstarter will clarify.
Skynet couldn't even do so. And it's pretty stupid to invent a machine to travel back in time that requires you to go out of your way to use while the enemy can use it all willy nilly
Originally posted by Robtard
Skynet. Time Travel. Could also be argued that Skynet just hacks apart The Matrix from the real world.
Matrix had real world defenses like those giant squid robots and shit
Originally posted by juggerman
Matrix had real world defenses like those giant squid robots and shit
Humans didn't have too much trouble getting to the battery-cells, which would likely be connected to The Matrix. So a possibly hacking could happen that way.
I'd still say Skynet would use time travel, it's its MO.
Originally posted by juggermanMatrix seemed superior to Skynet imo so I wouldn't rule it out. In any event I don't make it a habit of arguing out of speculation. I still don't see time travel as a viable option.
Skynet couldn't even do so. And it's pretty stupid to invent a machine to travel back in time that requires you to go out of your way to use while the enemy can use it all willy nillyMatrix had real world defenses like those giant squid robots and shit
Originally posted by quanchi112
If it's a merged universe I see no reason why they can't adapt to this technology. I still don't see it this way but maybe the threadstarter will clarify.
The original concept was that Skynet and the Matrix came about at roughly the same time and tried to take over the world at the same time, but since they are both high tech computers, they managed to firewall their systems enough such that the other party has no decent intel on the other. Only knowledge they have of each other is what they physically see, and since they don't cross the boundary they don't see much of the other side.
As for time travel, it should be noted that Skynet only resorted to time travel once they were close to defeat. IIRC, in the first terminator movie Reese says that the terminator was sent back in time as a last effort by Skynet as the humans were already about to win. But even if Skynet did send a terminator back in time, like I said, both AI's only know superficial information about each other and thus Skynet may not have detailed info enough to know how exactly the Matrix came to be.
Just like Skynet, where no one person was responsible for it's rise (even killing Dyson didn't stop Skynet from coming into being) I believe that it's true for the Matrix as well. There isn't a rebel leader that SKynet can assassinate to end the Matrix. The matrix probably evolved from a host of humans working together and I seriously doubt that Skynet can eliminate ever strand connected to the Matrix's past.
Originally posted by RobtardNo, the threadstarter backed me up and said their histories are both muddy waters ie. they have no idea when to send them back. it was also a last ditch effort so even bringing it up means they have zero faith in skynet.
As usual you can't counter the points I brought up so you just try to troll with silly nonsense games.