Mickey the Pickey vs Rocky

Originally posted by juggerman
He was fighting back he was just trying to make the fight last to ensure his people got into position iirc. That and/or he bet on himselfwinning at a certain time.

And you really can't compare Mickey getting hurt by someone pretty random to Rocky getting hurt by Drago, Lang, and Creed.

Why not? We have no idea just how good that guy was. Plus Mickey also allowed himself to get beat up by George... bareknuckled!

Getting hit with bare knuckles is way more damaging than getting hit with gloves. You can't compare Rocky getting beat up inside the ring (especially while he was defending himself) with Mickey allowing himself to get beat up with bare knuckles. Even professional boxers who can go 12 rounds in the ring usually get knocked down within a few seconds when they get into street brawls with other boxers.

Besides, more muscles don't necessarily mean stronger punching power. Lang and Creed should be around the same size and weight as George and the other champion Mickey fought. Only Drago is on a different scale.

In fact, if Mickey was fighting either Creed (prime) or Lang, I would have given the fight to them. But Rocky is slow and given the way that Mickey is able to move around when he wants to, I don't see Rocky being able to tag him that much. Even if Rocky somehow manages to survive Mickey's knockout punches (something which I seriously doubt) then the match probably goes to the decision with Mickey winning on points.

Actually I take back the boxers in street fight thing, since I only know of one boxer vs. boxer street fight and that was between Tyson and Green. Still it's worth to point out that Green lasted longer in the ring with Tyson than he did in the brawl.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why not? We have no idea just how good that guy was. Plus Mickey also allowed himself to get beat up by George... bareknuckled!

Getting hit with bare knuckles is way more damaging than getting hit with gloves. You can't compare Rocky getting beat up inside the ring (especially while he was defending himself) with Mickey allowing himself to get beat up with bare knuckles. Even professional boxers who can go 12 rounds in the ring usually get knocked down within a few seconds when they get into street brawls with other boxers.

Besides, more muscles don't necessarily mean stronger punching power. Lang and Creed should be around the same size and weight as George and the other champion Mickey fought. Only Drago is on a different scale.

In fact, if Mickey was fighting either Creed (prime) or Lang, I would have given the fight to them. But Rocky is slow and given the way that Mickey is able to move around when he wants to, I don't see Rocky being able to tag him that much. Even if Rocky somehow manages to survive Mickey's knockout punches (something which I seriously doubt) then the match probably goes to the decision with Mickey winning on points.

You're right we have no idea how good he was. He could have been shit. George too. And George didn't really show much strength or skill iirc.

Like Rocky vs Gunn bare knuckled? I'd say Gunn was much better than George

Lang was able to do to Rocky what Drago was not. I think you are underselling him. And you're right size can mean zilch so George's size does not mean he was impressive at all. Drago on the other hand was a wrecking machine and Lang did better against Rocky than him. True Rocky wasn't as skilled at the time but a shot to the head is a shot to the head.

Maybe Creed and that's a big maybe. Creed showed ridiclously more skill than anybody Mickey fought and way more than Mickey himself. He could dodge punches for days and could easily roll with Mick's hits taking away most of their power. Rocky was able to tag Creed who was a much better boxer/mover than Mickey. Mickey would not be knocking Rocky out easily if at all, seeing as how Rocky became a much better boxer later on i see him taking the points if it got that far.

Apollo Creed was modeled at least in part after Muhammad Ali, loud, brash, charismatic; he even has a similar record to Ali's, though he's slightly better. 57-0-2. 56 wins via KO.

And his only two loses were to legit supermen.