Odin (in Destroyer) vs. Tyrant

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
red sabre=countered and owned.

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no you did not counter my argument, it seems like you are the one having reading comprehension so i will ask you again and repeat my points.

we see several pannels which portray thanos rising up, however was there any statement or any kind of evidence that there is a notable time period between each pannel? for all that we know thanos could rise with only 1 or 2 motions and all those pannels were meant to put a spotlight on his get up, just like sometimes you got superman punch someone and you see several pannels focusing on him extracting his arm further and further however all those pannels are just 1 punch.

you either prove me being wrong or you basically cant, therefor you canot use this thanos moment the way you are trying to use it and portray the situation as if its taking him a long time to rise.

now is that simple enough for you?

Two days later and this fight is a comparison of artists' rendition?

People are seriously comparing the quality of Thanos' clothing after each fight?

Originally posted by curryman
Two days later and this fight is a comparison of artists' rendition?

People are seriously comparing the quality of Thanos' clothing after each fight?

Lol..

Originally posted by Horrificus
OK.

Well, that's your opinion. And I have no problem with you or anybody else having a different opinion from mine.

However, calling somebody a liar or attacking their integrity because they do not agree with you is usually the simplest, most cowardly avenue available.

Your opinion is, by no means, shared by anything like a majority of forum members when it comes to this subject.

And, the hilarious thing is, every time I see the same group of you in these threads, you all suddenly go from Jekyl to Hyde. So, I think the creepy levels of bias fall more on you guys than on me.

You can say whatever you want. In my opinion, a smiling, rested Thanos, claiming a victory of sorts, will always seem to have fared better than a smoldering, silent Thanos written to show several panels passing for the time it takes to stand. That was done for a REASON zop. And THAT reason was not to show how fast Thanos got back up and how well he was doing. 😆 It was to show just how f'd up he got from Odin. Plain and simple.

It doesn't matter what happened to Thanos' uniform. Who knows what type of attacks Odin and Tyrant used. Obviously, Tyrant's burnt off his clothes, where Odin's took the wind out of his sails. 2 different things happening.

But, if you don't agree, I'm not going to be a d!ck head to you or call you names or say you are lying about anything. You just disagree.

Whatever.

Originally posted by curryman
Two days later and this fight is a comparison of artists' rendition?

People are seriously comparing the quality of Thanos' clothing after each fight?

So if artist rendition of Thanos after each fight is meaningless (Thanos look tore up vs Tyrant but barely singed vs Odin), why is panel counting a more legit criteria of who beat him up more badly?

I mean different artists, different interpretations.

Originally posted by zopzop
So if artist rendition of Thanos after each fight is meaningless (Thanos look tore up vs Tyrant but barely singed vs Odin), why is panel counting a more legit criteria of who beat him up more badly?

It's not *shrug*

To me it's more a case of him being able to return fire in one fight and not in the other. On the other hand he fared better against Odin's attacks.

In the end I don't think those two fights are enough. We need to look elsewhere.

Are all of these panels from the same fight between Thanos and Tyrant?

^What does showing Thanos clearly using the orb prove? It amped his attacks and provided a opening for a followup shot. It's like you
don't even bother reading the logical explanations but are quick to go to great lengths to make your severely crippled stance set in stone.

Like I said earlier, you do nothing but embarrass yourself, spam pages, ignore on panel depictions, on panel statements, and defy reasonable logic. Your bias toward Odin is unparalleled and you have no idea how bad you're showing it. Either that or you're just flat out stupid. Not trying to sound harsh but that's the way it really looks.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Are people ACTUALLY saying he looked better against Tyrant than Odin LMAO... Against Tyrant his clothes weren't TOTALLY burnt off and he was all cut up.. Against Odin his clothes were almost completly in tact with no cuts or damage visible. If you ask Thanos... He would laugh at this thread being made... Tyrant clearly came off as looking superior to Odin.

Also, are people being stupid on purpose or just stupid in general. Thanos ddn't just go LOOKING FOR THE ORB. HE WENT LOOKING FOR A FIGHT.. HE WANTED TO TEST HIS MIGHT. He prepped... amped his blasts with an orb and still got beaten by Tyrant. Whom he ADMITTED who kill him.No small feat to get Thanos to say that. Against Odin.. he WASN'T looking for a fight... in fact wanted Odn's help... didn't prep.. didn't amp.... and was ready to fit on and NEVER admitted any superiority for Odin.

What can we take from all this... Tyrant wins all except maybe 2.

STill waiting on a response to this...

Originally posted by Sundipped
^What does showing Thanos clearly using the orb prove? It amped his attacks and provided a opening for a followup shot. It's like you
don't even bother reading the logical explanations but are quick to go to great lengths to make your severely crippled stance set in stone.

Originally posted by red sabre
no you did not counter my argument, it seems like you are the one having reading comprehension so i will ask you again and repeat my points.

we see several pannels which portray thanos rising up, however was there any statement or any kind of evidence that there is a notable time period between each pannel? for all that we know thanos could rise with only 1 or 2 motions and all those pannels were meant to put a spotlight on his get up, just like sometimes you got superman punch someone and you see several pannels focusing on him extracting his arm further and further however all those pannels are just 1 punch.

you either prove me being wrong or you basically cant, therefor you canot use this thanos moment the way you are trying to use it and portray the situation as if its taking him a long time to rise.

now is that simple enough for you?

So you admit that you know the panels in question...

Good...no need for you to attempt to deflect your phail argument with such nonsense from this point on then.

As for your argument itself, its bull crap; you know the dust obscures them in the 1st panel and in the 2nd it no longer does...its called a visual clue...yes, there is nothing saying exactly how much time has elapsed between each panel but enough time has elapsed so that the dust has settled...got it?

I hope so...I kinda think you are using the "play dumb" tactic to win this argument...just like Quanchi does when I have his back against the wall pertaining to Thanos.

The rest of the panels are self explanatory and dont fall under the example you are attempting to make with Supermans fist...

The bottomline is that Odin had time and opportunity to attack a defenseless Thanos but chose not to (he had mercy on him); anyone with common sense and a working pair of eyes can clearly see that...

Unfortunately, Thanos fanboys lack these attributes when Thanos is involved in the discussion...

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Originally posted by Sundipped
^What does showing Thanos clearly using the orb prove? It amped his attacks and provided a opening for a followup shot. It's like you
don't even bother reading the logical explanations but are quick to go to great lengths to make your severely crippled stance set in stone.

Like I said earlier, you do nothing but embarrass yourself, spam pages, ignore on panel depictions, on panel statements, and defy reasonable logic. Your bias toward Odin is unparalleled and you have no idea how bad you're showing it. Either that or you're just flat out stupid. Not trying to sound harsh but that's the way it really looks.

I specifically asked, to be sure, if those panels were from the same fight. I asked this because I had collected the scans over time and did not want to say anything out of context, or untrue.

So, I actually ASKED my opposition to clarify.

I STATED NOTHING.

You really need to think before posting.

And, concerning the Orb:

The argument of the orb being responsible for Thanos superior performance against Tyrant does not make sense in the least.

Do you all know why? Because of this:

This is not the angle you would want to use to defend your argument.
You are basically saying that Tyrant, with ALL of these orbs, was still, only barely able to defeat Thanos.
So, without the orbs, what exactly IS Tyrant? Aunt May?

Originally posted by Horrificus
And, concerning the Orb:

The argument of the orb being responsible for Thanos superior performance against Tyrant does not make sense in the least.

Do you all know why? Because of this:

This is not the angle you would want to use to defend your argument.
You are basically saying that Tyrant, with ALL of these orbs, was still, only barely able to defeat Thanos.
So, without the orbs, what exactly IS Tyrant? Aunt May?

Originally posted by Sundipped
^What does showing Thanos clearly using the orb prove? It amped his attacks and provided a opening for a followup shot. It's like you
don't even bother reading the logical explanations but are quick to go to great lengths to make your severely crippled stance set in stone.

Like I said earlier, you do nothing but embarrass yourself, spam pages, ignore on panel depictions, on panel statements, and defy reasonable logic. Your bias toward Odin is unparalleled and you have no idea how bad you're showing it. Either that or you're just flat out stupid. Not trying to sound harsh but that's the way it really looks.

Against Odin, regardless of why he was there, he ended up bloodlusted. As you all keep pointing out, he wanted nothing but to defeat Odin, even after getting smacked around like a lil' ole lady. He didn't CARE about why he was there anymore.

You can't have it both ways.

Was Thanos bloodlusted against Odin so much, that even after his beating, he still wanted more? He couldn't even care about why he was there anymore.

Against Tyrant, wasn't Thanos able to just smile, say "mission accomplished", and take off?

Which opponent did he try harder to defeat?

Still waiting on somone on the pro Odin side to address my post.

Originally posted by Horrificus
And, I DID read the story. Against Tyrant, Thanos was on a fact-finding mission. A "probe". All the way up until he found out what he wanted to know and then, casually took off. Hell, even even explains that he wasn't really there to defeat Tyrant and that the mission was more important than the outcome of their battle.

Against Odin, regardless of why he was there, he ended up bloodlusted. As you all keep pointing out, he wanted nothing but to defeat Odin, even after getting smacked around like a lil' ole lady. He didn't CARE about why he was there anymore.

You can't have it both ways.

Was Thanos bloodlusted against Odin so much, that even after his beating, he still wanted more? He couldn't even care about why he was there anymore.

Against Tyrant, wasn't Thanos able to just smile, say "mission accomplished", and take off?

Which opponent did he try harder to defeat?

Address my post buddy.. I'm still waiting. but I will address yours again... Thanos WASN'T THERE ON A MISSION to find the orb and capture it. HIS MISSION AS CLEARLY STATED ON PANEL WAS TO TEST HIS FIGHT AND FIND A WORTH FOE. That was his mission first and foremost. Upon PREPPING for many comic books (ya know that thign he didn't do with Odin) he found out that Tyrant's orbs can be used against him in a fight. THAT is why he gained the orb.. to again BATTLE TYRANT and TEST HIS MIGHT. His mission wasn't the rob. Once he realized he was going to get killed.. he decided to cut his losses and figure out what was so special about these orbs Tyrant coveted so much. Simple. Please stop acting like his mission was the orb.. he stated his mission very clearly on panel.

Originally posted by zopzop
You know why your argument makes NO sense? Because you ASSUME Tryant had access to his orbs and their power even if he wasn't in actual contact with them.

Or, are you just assuming that he DOESN'T have access to their power? And, if you are, does that mean that we are not allowed to assume that he does have access to the power? Why? How does that logic work? I just want to know and I will be happy to agree with you.

A few pages back, I even warned against the use of the orbs in this argument. This was why. It gets very messy.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Still waiting on somone on the pro Odin side to address my post.

Well I dont consider myself "Pro-Odin."

Infact I actually agree with your assessment (your position is that Odin may win in #2 but loses the rest...right?).

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Address my post buddy.. I'm still waiting. but I will address yours again... Thanos WASN'T THERE ON A MISSION to find the orb and capture it. HIS MISSION AS CLEARLY STATED ON PANEL WAS TO TEST HIS FIGHT AND FIND A WORTH FOE. That was his mission first and foremost. Upon PREPPING for many comic books (ya know that thign he didn't do with Odin) he found out that Tyrant's orbs can be used against him in a fight. THAT is why he gained the orb.. to again BATTLE TYRANT and TEST HIS MIGHT. His mission wasn't the rob. Once he realized he was going to get killed.. he decided to cut his losses and figure out what was so special about these orbs Tyrant coveted so much. Simple. Please stop acting like his mission was the orb.. he stated his mission very clearly on panel.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well I dont consider myself "Pro-Odin."

Infact I actually agree with your assessment (your position is that Odin may win in #2 but loses the rest...right?).