Another case where the trailer is actually better than the move.
Meh, Hollywood just doesn't get Wolverine.
That's my dream but it'll never happen.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Honestly, the best scene for me was probably seeingSpoiler:at the end.
Picard and GandalfPains me because I LOVED what they did with First Class.
Need more of that and less of this guy who has had five feature films to try and when us over.
I agree but I'm hyped now about DOFP after that end credit scene. And I honestly don't think Wolverine will be the main character evem if he is the one going back in time. I still think it will focus mainly on Charles and Eric but young and old.
Aside from Fox still not getting Wolverine right far as being faithful to the comics, this movie still wasn't horrible like Wolverine Origins but.. average at best. It says something when people were most excited during the credits scene than the rest of the movie.
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Was expecting the Silver Samurai to appear a lot earlier in the film than he (or should I say "it" ?) did and though the revealing of SS's identity was done to be a shock factor, I feel they kinda ****ed up the character... Cutting off Wolvie's adamantium clawz was cool though.So does that mean Logan's stuck with the bone claws again?
The Wolverine is not a good movie, it starts strong and holds it's course for a while but the last third of the movie is so terrible that it completely destroys all the good will I had up until that point. It's a shame, there is a good movie in there somewhere. A competent director free if the shackles of studio interference could fix this movie with two month of re-shoots and a trip to the editing bay. The Wolverine only had a production budged of 115 mil, FOX should have tossed another 40 into and salvaged project... of course they are the reason the movie degenerates into mindless action figure product placement in the first place so I guess it's not reasonable to to think they'd like to fix anything.
For the life of me I can't see how in a world where we have critically and financially successful Avengers and Iron Man and Batman movies FOX executives are sitting around shoehorning Batman Forever style garbage into these X-Men movies. How is it possible they are so oblivious that they haven't seen what has been working for other studios? They haven't even taken an measures to correct the crap people have very vocally maligned from the last three X films. It's the same goofy shit over and over again. It's embarrassing.
Still liked it better than Man of Steel. Not a great summer for super hero movies... at least Iron Man 3 as good.
What bugged me out was he never had the extended ninja fight that we saw from the trailers. This was one of the main things that hyped me up.
Originally posted by srankmissingninAgreed. The movie had potential and looked promising in the trailer. To it's credit, it had some strong things going for it.
The Wolverine is not a good movie, it starts strong and holds it's course for a while but the last third of the movie is so terrible that it completely destroys all the good will I had up until that point. It's a shame, there is a good movie in there somewhere.
Spoiler:The first two thirds of the film seemed to be a character driven story. They just don't know how to make Wolverine cool. The closest they came was in the first film. The only time I felt where Jackman embodied Wolverine in this entire franchise was the scene in the bar from the first X-Men. Every other time I've watched him it looks as if he's playing Wolverine. Robert Downey, Jr. became Iron Man. It's a shame, too, because I like Jackman. I blame the people behind the scenes more than I do him. He's just working with the material given. Not all of it is bad. Most the stuff with him is pretty good. It's mainly the action that is sub-par. Again, Wolverine is a violent, bloody character. You have to portray that onscreen. You can't flaunt this badass guy down our throats without proving to us why we should accept him as such.
Maybe two mutants besides Logan in the film.
Originally posted by srankmissingninTo Fox' credit, First Class was excellent.
For the life of me I can't see how in a world where we have critically and financially successful Avengers and Iron Man and Batman movies FOX executives are sitting around shoehorning Batman Forever style garbage into these X-Men movies. How is it possible they are so oblivious that they haven't seen what has been working for other studios? They haven't even taken an measures to correct the crap people have very vocally maligned from the last three X films. It's the same goofy shit over and over again. It's embarrassing.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Still liked it better than Man of Steel. Not a great summer for super hero movies... at least Iron Man 3 as good.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
What bugged me out was he never had the extended ninja fight that we saw from the trailers. This was one of the main things that hyped me up.Agreed. The movie had potential and looked promising in the trailer. To it's credit, it had some strong things going for it.
Spoiler:The first two thirds of the film seemed to be a character driven story. They just don't know how to make Wolverine cool. The closest they came was in the first film. The only time I felt where Jackman embodied Wolverine in this entire franchise was the scene in the bar from the first X-Men. Every other time I've watched him it looks as if he's playing Wolverine. Robert Downey, Jr. became Iron Man. It's a shame, too, because I like Jackman. I blame the people behind the scenes more than I do him. He's just working with the material given. Not all of it is bad. Most the stuff with him is pretty good. It's mainly the action that is sub-par. Again, Wolverine is a violent, bloody character. You have to portray that onscreen. You can't flaunt this badass guy down our throats without proving to us why we should accept him as such.
Maybe two mutants besides Logan in the film.To Fox' credit, First Class was excellent.
FOX doesn't have the stones to do the character justice. I feel Jackman does a commendable job with what he is given in all the X films, that just doesn't end up being much. The movies never delve into the core of the character, his struggles with his rage or his struggles to redeem himself of his past sins and regain his lost honor. The crux of the character is that he has done some truly bad things, but he is striving to make up for his crimes... but the movies don't hint that he has made even the slightest transgression. It's like you said, we don't know why we are supposed care about him.
The first 2/3 of the movie is more of an neo noir introspective character study and a reflection on immortality, which was great... too bad it all of which gets dropped without any resolution so Wolverine can fight ninjas and robotic samurai armor. Really disappointing. Also, why would a studio set a movie in Tokyo and not use the city more? This movie need more neon night time city scapes.
I didn't like Man of Steel. Why is that a surprise? Most people didn't...
Originally posted by steverules_2
Why didn't you like MOS?
Same reason I didn't like Wolverine more or less. It's starts out decent as a character study, then degrades into standard block buster fodder to appease the masses with shot for shot remake of Agent Smith vs Neo that goes on way to long than ends on a sour note that is counter to the essence of the character. The pacing was also terrible because Synder is borderline incompetent as a director.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
just saw this.. i liked it a lot.. i have the story arc on which this is based upon.. i for one do not worry about changes because that always happens when comic books become live action films... this time around this is a much better film than X-O: Wolverine.. better action, definitely better story.. Hugh is always good as Logan.. the ladies, liked Rila as Yukio, Svetlana as Viper, and Tao as Mariko.all in all 8/10
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Same reason I didn't like Wolverine more or less. It's starts out decent as a character study, then degrades into standard block buster fodder to appease the masses with shot for shot remake of Agent Smith vs Neo that goes on way to long than ends on a sour note that is counter to the essence of the character. The pacing was also terrible because Synder is borderline incompetent as a director.
I think it could be hard to have Zod vs Superman and not have it come out like Neo vs Smith
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Same reason I didn't like Wolverine more or less. It's starts out decent as a character study, then degrades into standard block buster fodder to appease the masses with shot for shot remake of Agent Smith vs Neo that goes on way to long than ends on a sour note that is counter to the essence of the character. The pacing was also terrible because Synder is borderline incompetent as a director.
Man of Steel was far superior at everything. From acting, action sequences, cinematography, music, etc. the film just made this one seem laughable in comparison.
Everyone hates on the climactic battle between Zod and Superman. I get it. Superman could have tried to cause less collateral damage. Realistically, innocent bystanders should've been killed. So we're just going to act like they don't smash through buildings constantly in the comic books?
Shot for shot remake of Neo and Agent Smith? So Superman is supposed to apologize for The Matrix of all franchises attempting to copy him? Nonsense. Clearly remember everyone disliking that scene in Revolutions anyway.
Don't get me started on Iron Man 3.
Iron Man 3 - 5/10
Star Trek: Into Darkness - 8.5/10
Man of Steel - 8.5/10
Pacific Rim - 7/10
The Wolverine - 6/10