Originally posted by dadudemon
Something about a character that can be animalistically savage by literally cutting people to pieces strikes me as an R-rated character if ever put to a film.
just take a look at when Marvel had that Comics code thing on their comics back in the day.
didn't have him slicing and dicing people apart... well not that graphic and it was still enjoyable.
Originally posted by Kazenji
didn't have him slicing and dicing people apart... well not that graphic and it was still enjoyable.
For you it may have been.
But our conversation was not about which comic books you found enjoyable that had "Wolverine" toned down for children. It was about bringing a mature Wolverine character to the masses in an animated film.
Just got back from watching this, liked it better than Origins for the most part, still turned out to be a turd though, which is what I expected and they delivered, unfortunately.
The first half that has more story building was better than the second half where the heavier action started.
-Found the main villain to be ridiculous.
-The ****ing
Spoiler:
ninjas doing parkoor flips for no apparent reason at times annoyed me
-Famke has had way to much work done to her face, she's looking like a tranny
-Both lead females were annoying
-Script in general was just poor
/endrant
Originally posted by Kazenji
Wolverine doesn't really need a R rating on a movie to be successfuljust take a look at when Marvel had that Comics code thing on their comics back in the day.
No you definitely don't need an R rating to make a good movie. I would also be worried that if a studio were to condone an R rated wolverine movie we would probably get a lot of unnecessary violence. Implied violence can often be just as impactful as seeing it unfold visually. With that said, i wouldn't mind seeing an overly violent X-men or Wolverine movie but i'm sure the violence would probably take away from a good story. However, given that no one has really made a Wolverine or X-men movie with a compelling story i'd gladly take some gore in place of the absent story lol
I think what DD was implying, i could be wrong but i assumed he was just suggesting that a more adult tone would benefit these characters. Even though i think you can adapt these characters into a good PG or PG13 movie i think that would be a very hard thing to do. Following these characters in a comic book makes it easy for me to accept a lot of the things that make them look silly and cheesy in a live action movie.
Behind their often silly powers and ridiculous attire these characters often deal with extremely mature issues. This is why i think the more serious and mature adaptations are the ones that seem to work best, most of the time. Look at the DC animated movies. The movies that are more mature are far better than the ones that dont.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I think what DD was implying, i could be wrong but i assumed he was just suggesting that a more adult tone would benefit these characters.
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Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Behind their often silly powers and ridiculous attire these characters often deal with extremely mature issues. This is why i think the more serious and mature adaptations are the ones that seem to work best, most of the time. Look at the DC animated movies. The movies that are more mature are far better than the ones that dont.
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Originally posted by Robtard
Just got back from watching this, liked it better than Origins for the most part, still turned out to be a turd though, which is what I expected and they delivered, unfortunately.The first half that has more story building was better than the second half where the heavier action started.
-Found the main villain to be ridiculous.
-The ****ing
Spoiler:
ninjas doing parkoor flips for no apparent reason at times annoyed me-Famke has had way to much work done to her face, she's looking like a tranny
-Both lead females were annoying
-Script in general was just poor
/endrant
I actually lol'd at the random flips. Reminded me of Power Rangers.
Enjoy this Power Rangers tribute video to remind you of the flippy ninjas:
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
No you definitely don't need an R rating to make a good movie. I would also be worried that if a studio were to condone an R rated wolverine movie we would probably get a lot of unnecessary violence.
Watching Kill Bill again recently I was thinking I actually wouldn't mind Quinton Taretino doing a Wonder Woman movie 😎
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Man, I'm so pissed at Fox for the Wolverine. The first 3/4 of the movie were good but then the last part is so shitty in comparison. I didn't mind a big CGI ridden shitty ending in MOS because that's all the movie ever was but in Wolverine I really enjoyed the characters so I'm disappointed we lost great conclusions for a mech fight. Surprised at the chemistry between Jackman and Okamoto.Also the claws thing was so dumb. Whatever I had a good time and the mid credit scene alone was worth the price of admission.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
No you definitely don't need an R rating to make a good movie. I would also be worried that if a studio were to condone an R rated wolverine movie we would probably get a lot of unnecessary violence. Implied violence can often be just as impactful as seeing it unfold visually. With that said, i wouldn't mind seeing an overly violent X-men or Wolverine movie but i'm sure the violence would probably take away from a good story. However, given that no one has really made a Wolverine or X-men movie with a compelling story i'd gladly take some gore in place of the absent story lol
The only Marvel movie & character that truly deserved an R rating was Punisher:Warzone.
I would've loved to see Wolverine done in that same dark & violent tone.
Chris Claremont's view on the movie
"The first two acts were kick-ass, and they set this up to be a really exceptional, different movie. It was like the film took this giant step forward. I liked that it focuses on the essence of who Wolverine is and what he does. Hugh Jackman is eloquent, and he owns the character at this point. It’s a surprisingly multidimensional performance.The third act wasn’t bad, per se, but it was a different tone. That moment he starts motorcycling up the 400 kilometers … he was almost riding into a different movie. It would be interesting to talk to [director James] Mangold and ask why they felt they had to go in that direction."
Originally posted by Darth MartinYea, if they don't want to make profit.
Sometimes these studios have to sacrifice financial gain for quality.Transformers 2, Origins: Wolverine, and Die Another Day raked in alot of cash. But the overall feedback was terrible.
It's easy to say what they should do if you ignore they are businesses.