Thor vs S2 Goku

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Be angrier. Goku's physical strength is outstripped by some mid metas.

Why are we meant to be impressed by 400 tons?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Why are we meant to be impressed by 400 tons?

Let me get the tier list. 🙂

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
[b]Metahuman

High

Angron (1), Dante (DMC1&4) (2), Dante (DMC2) (3), Hideyoshi Toyotomi (Sengoku Basara) (2), Kratos (God of War) (1), Lemen Russ (1), Lorgar (1), Megaman X (2), Mew (1), Sanguinius (1), Sora (2), Zero (2),

Mid

Dante (DmC) (2), Donkey Kong (2), Fingolfin (1), Knuckles (2), Link, Hero of Legend (6), Link, Hero of Light (6), Link, Hero of Time (6), Mario (2), Mega Man (4), Megaman X (2), Sora (Kingdom Hearts) (1)

Now in two pieces because character limit.

This should be up to date, let me know if I missed anything. [/B]

The above characters can all be argued to be physically stronger than Goku, and that's not even dipping into Herald level characters. In raw strength they are all at least comparable. And I left out candidates I'm not familiar enough with to make the call on.

haermm Yes, lets measure up to human limits.

But no, as Scream said something like 400 tons is beaten by M.Metas. Alex Mercer, Hancock, Death and War, Optimus, Blade Liger and Liger Zero, Kenichi, Kain and Raziel, TP!Link, Natsu, Jin and Jackie Chan are all easily into the 100+ ton range. OoT!Link, Knuckles, Megaman, DmC Dante and Vergil, Cloverfield monster, the Kaiju and Jaegar's, , Cyborg!Raiden, Donkey King and Ben Tennyson are around the 1,000 ton mark.

And these are only Low and Mid Metas.

What? 400 tons is low for a meta human? In what world is this? When did Alex and the rest display this level of strength? Granted Hancock's greatest feat was the whale chuck but that's nowhere a 400 ton limit. What strength feats does the Cloverfield monster even have? Where is Knuckles 1,000 ton feat along with the others?

Out of all of those you named, only Knuckles is on my list. 😛

http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Knuckles+the+Echidna OBD says he's a city buster in base form, but I was just basing it on him being stronger than Shadow.

@Wei:

The hundred tonners;
Alex Mercer runs with 100 ton tanks like carrying a toy to throwing it over a city block. Hancock's whale may have only been 30 tons, but its the ease and distance of it. War hurls buses over city blocks and is on the level of Death who overpowers huge beasts with strength alone. Optimus can easily hurl around guys larger than a tank formed Megatron. Blade Liger and Liger Zero weigh nearly 100 tons and easily throw each other good distances. Kenichi was nearly a 100 tonner at the start of the manga. Kain and Raziel have the feat of tipping a 300 ton pillar. TP!Link smacks around 300 ton ice. Natsu smacks around 100 ton beasts. Jin's stronger than guys who can casually flip <100 tons. Jackie Chan with the Ox Talisman can crack open a massive area of rock.

The thousand tonners;
OoT!Link threw a pillar that weighs 1,000 tons. Knuckles is stronger than Sonic who is able to do this at 5:05. Megaman was able to support a large section of a metallic ceiling. DmC Vergil nearly matches Dante who overpowers a demon that pushed 1,000 tons and himself shattered a bridge with a punch. Clover crushed a tank by walking. Kaiju and Jaegar's can throw around the Kaiju which weigh 2,000-3,000 tons. Cyborg!Raiden's 10,000 ton Excelsus feat. Donkey Kong's million ton moon punch. Ben Tennyson's power aliens who go from casual 100 tonners to causing a massive area to violently shake with a punch, an area which dwarfs a mid sized plane.

400 tons is by itself is only M.Meta.

Its actually a lot more thats when he trained at kais planet hes at kid buu level of stregth now which supased level 3 goku so its more than 400 Br dont make me get you buthurt again we have already been through this you know he can lift more.

At the end of the saga he is more than capable of lifting of 1500 tons with ease their is no feat but he was able to beat kid buu in base who kicked the crap out of him when he was level 3.

Originally posted by I am Vegeta
At the end of the saga he is more than capable of lifting of 1500 tons with ease their is no feat but he was able to beat kid buu in base who kicked the crap out of him when he was level 3.

Nope.

Actually you failed to comeback on the scaling, might want to get before bitching again. Funny enough, 1,500 tons is still a M.Meta strength level 😛

Oh and just realised.. as weight is applied after gravity, the 40 tons would be the weight on that planet. Meaning under 10g the weights weigh 40 tons.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So he got stronger to an unknown degree, but you're certain he can lift 1500 tons, despite never doing so? Hm.

Nope.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Actually you failed to comeback on the scaling, might want to get before bitching again. Funny enough, 1,500 tons is still a M.Meta strength level 😛

Oh and just realised.. as weight is applied after gravity, the 40 tons would be the weight on that planet. Meaning under 10g the weights weigh 40 tons.

ill even go by BR's opinion. he thinks goku's strength is boosted 20, 2, and 4 when it comes to his forms

Originally posted by BloodRain
Fair enough. Right, we all know that SS states increases their Ki by a certain amount while making them stronger/faster/etc, a well known fact I'm not disagreeing with. The problem here is that you're saying Goku's physical strength etc goes up by exactly 50x when every single statement about SS only states how it increases the Battle Power/Power Level/Ki of the user.

The physical attributes do increase but nothing has ever said that they would multiply by the exact same amount as it does for their Ki.

so lets multiply shall we

Actually it can this was even BR's opinion who is basically a mini you screampaste and if your not agreeing with that we can always change it back to 50. Anyway ever heard of the kaio-ken ya it boost his power base on what number he calls out along with a lot of other stuff so Im right. And even the false super sayin mode could beat a kaio-ken times 20 goku.

Originally posted by I am Vegeta
Actually it can this was even BR's opinion who is basically a mini you screampaste and if your not agreeing with that we can always change it back to 50. Anyway ever heard of the kaio-ken ya it boost his power base on what number he calls out along with a lot of other stuff so Im right. And even the false super sayin mode could beat a kaio-ken times 20 goku.

And go ahead, multiply Goku's ki by 50, then prove to me that this multiplies his power by 50. Those are completely different things. 🙂

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, you are not. Kaioken demonstrably does not add a whole extra Goku of power for every level he cranks it up. This is exceedingly apparent during the Vegeta fight. Lol.

And go ahead, multiply Goku's ki by 50, then prove to me that this multiplies his power by 50. Those are completely different things. 🙂

Pre-SSJ Goku during Frieza fight was already thousands of times more powerful than spaceship Goku. Saying that Goku was not class 100 by beginning of part 1 is one thing (wrong, but whatever), but during Frieza fight? Lol

Claim you're right all that you like, without evidence you simply are not. It's simple.