Unicron Vs John Mcclane, Korben Dallas, Joe Colton (G.I.Joe), and Butch(pulp fiction)

Originally posted by Newjak
clearly her forearm and hand are roughly the size of the Exosuits arm.

so since the blaster arm is as long as her forearm and hand, and you already admitted that the pistol is shorter than her forearm+hand, then blaster arm is longer than pistol. good so that point is squashed. thank you.

but lets get real
its clear that her pistol is barely the length of elbow to wrist and the exo arm is longer than arcee's forearm+hand. the part that extends behind the elbow-hole puts it well over. you need to quit all that dancing and just deal with the fact that you were and are wrong.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
so since the blaster arm is as long as her forearm and hand, and you already admitted that the pistol is shorter than her forearm+hand, then blaster arm is longer than pistol. good so that point is squashed. thank you.

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm sorry I forgot to mention hand in the first part but I did mention in the statement below the pictures.

I'm not avoiding the shot of her holding the exosuit. I keep telling you even in those pictures everything I've said stays true while what you say is wrong.

Her hand in that pic alone is as big as the upper portion of the arm.

And even then I'v said multiple times that the pistol is roughly the size of the arm but definitely larger than half of the arm to account for size variances in the pictures although both ranges make the blaster far bigger than anything the suit has.

At this point you're trying to nitpick what I'm saying hoping for some kind of inconsistency. All I can say is the visual evidence, even the ones you presented, point to what I've said multiple times times already.

why do i keep arguing with stevie wonder.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
why do i keep arguing with stevie wonder.

Anyways I don't know why you keep replying to me or acting like this is a competition I've already told you multiple times I'm not trying to change your mind cause you're wrong or just trying to troll like you've trolled quan multiple times. I'm just making sure everyone understands your wrong and your evidence doesn't show what you think it does.

ffs their hands are even the same size. i've had enough of your clown dance for one day. your downplaying is baseless and contributes nothing.

Originally posted by focus4chumps

ffs their hands are even the same size. i've had enough of your clown dance for one day. your downplaying is baseless and contributes nothing.

If you look at the left arm you can see her upper arm by itself is longer than from hip to knee of the exosuit.

So her forearm length in that picture is the size of the entire exosuit bodies width plus the width of the other arm.

Like I said your picture doesn't show what you think it does.

today i learned that unicron's smelting vat's only weakness was aids and pixie dust since thats all the exosuit could fire. also apparently clearly defined scale is subjective...like a picasso. 🙄

Originally posted by focus4chumps
today i learned that unicron's smelting vat's only weakness was aids and pixie dust since thats all the exosuit could fire. also apparently clearly defined scale is subjective...like a picasso. 🙄

It just isn't nearly as powerful as a transformer's gun.

And it is clearly defined showing her forearm supporting the exosuit's body and other arm. It just looks smaller do to perspective and a little poor drawing unless you believe her left arm is significantly longer than her right.

Nice try with going to extremes though.

oh dear 😂

Originally posted by Newjak
poor drawing

right. whichever scenes prove you wrong were just drawn poorly.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
oh dear 😂

right. whichever scenes prove you wrong were just drawn poorly.

Some of the perspective is off a bit but that's common in the transformers movie. Unless you really want to admit her left arm way longer than her right one.

Like I said you're obviously trolling and trying to nitpick me apart looking for something.

You are still wrong though and I'm right.

look bro, i've been infinitely patient with you despite your implications of trollery and have continued to entertain your silly notion of scale in the hopes of teaching you perspective. im not sure if you got it down now or if you only acknowledge it when it suits you.

the hands are almost the same size. even in that perspective it is abundantly clear that it can grip and fire a standard autobot pistol like rc had. the strength of the exosuit was proven when daniel knocked wreckgar down with a huge chunk of metal. now go on and tell me how arcee's hands were probably juuuuuuuuuussssssssssssst large enough to hold and fire the pistol and even a millimeter less size would make it impossible.

now i could just reboot the topic and give them pistols, but that would be silly since they are already equipped with blasters, using obvious autobot tech. everything you have argued is completely blind-guessing balderdash, so there is no need to do a reboot.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
look bro, i've been infinitely patient with you despite your implications of trollery and have continued to entertain your silly notion of scale in the hopes of teaching you perspective. im not sure if you got it down now or if you only acknowledge it when it suits you.

the hands are almost the same size. even in that perspective it is abundantly clear that it can grip and fire a standard autobot pistol like rc had. the strength of the exosuit was proven when daniel knocked wreckgar down with a huge chunk of metal. now go on and tell me how arcee's hands were probably juuuuuuuuuussssssssssssst large enough to hold and fire the pistol and even a millimeter less size would make it impossible.

now i could just reboot the topic and give them pistols, but that would be silly since they are already equipped with blasters, using obvious autobot tech. everything you have argued is completely blind-guessing balderdash, so there is no need to do a reboot.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
here newjack. more hypothesis-damning visual evidence. when you dance around it, try mixing it up this time. salsa? oh wait, the tango!

so much for blaster-arm-size gimping.

shall we proceed to more reasonable discussion or shall we continue kicking that dead horse?

Originally posted by Newjak

In almost every single picture you've shown of her and Daniel in the exosuit she is nearly twice as tall as it is. Are you really going to sit here and with a straight face say her hand is as big as Daniel's?

That would mean she has a freakishly small arm compared to the rest of her body, but we know from other shots she doesn't.

So it's just a little badly drawn perspective and her forearm is still clearly holding the exosuits entire body + other arm.

And her forearm + hand is still roughly the size of the exosuit's arm which still makes her blaster at least the very minimum slightly over half of the exosuits arm or roughly the size of its arm.

So you can restart the thread and give them pistols the size of Arcee's they won't be able to wield them properly considering how much bigger they are. They will still get over run by Unicron's internal defenses.

interesting. i'll take your pontificating into serious consideration

Originally posted by focus4chumps
interesting. i'll take your pontificating into serious consideration

As long as people realize you're terribly wrong.

yeah look at the long line of agreement 🙄

well ok there are 4 who will rush to agree with you without even knowing wtf either of us is talking about. i dont want to mention names but their first initials are "dadudemon, The Fat Rambo, Quanchi, and Lestov" but other than that...

do you really think you can be the boss of all things downplaying while claiming majority of one?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
yeah look at the long line of agreement 🙄

well ok there are 4 who will rush to agree with you without even knowing wtf either of us is talking about. i dont want to mention names but their first initials are "dadudemon, The Fat Rambo, Quanchi, and Lestov" but other than that...

do you really think you can be the boss of all things downplaying while claiming majority of one?

All I'm saying is your wrong I'm right and I hope people understand that so they don't agree with you and get the wrong facts.

Originally posted by Newjak
your wrong I'm right

yes you keep spamming on about that without a shred of evidence.

Anyway.... Unicron wins.

interesting. how so?

I honestly love how people love to paint the inconsistencies of the 80's toon movie as some sort of definitive proof of ANYTHING reguarding Unicron's actual capabilities...

I'm sorry Focus, but this is pure bullshit. You never said which Unicron we are using, as even G1 has several incarnations, including a God of Chaos variant from the comics.

But hell, why stop there, even toon G1 movie. 'Cron stomps, as the Willises have no hope of doing any lasting damage. What, you honestly thought that Daniel's arm cannons on a buch of Bruce clones are going to make a difference? Reffer to New Jack's point, Arcee plogging a hole in a minor lube line took no less than 5 pinpoint shots on the exact same point in rapid succession. And thats from a trained and experienced sharpshooting warrior robot with millions of years of warfare under her belt, with a weapon beyond human weapon desig capability. And while under duress from the claws.

And thats another thing, whats all this bullshit of the claws not being able to do anything? Does common sense not exist anymore? Are you telling me now, that the 'Bot's ran in all kinds of different directions to evade "harmless claws", thats absolutely perfect bloody logic....

Anyways, I guess it doesn't matter at all anyways, the Willises have no means to do any lasting damage anyways, even if they went ahead all guns on those suits firing all over the place. They have no way of knowing where to hit anything vital, even if they walked across it by accident, and before long, they use up the juice on the suits and slowly suffocate due to lack of oxygen.