Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What? How does my post equate into "Superman hate" at all? 😬I like Superman, pretty much in all of his incarnations and enjoy his stories. That doesn't mean I think he can beat anyone. And pointing out that you'd have to specifically use high end/crazy showings of Superman and throw out everything else to justify him beating or even having a chance against certain characters doesn't translate into "hating him because he's so powerful".
Not sure why you'd bring up a Pre-Crisis feat here, but okay?
And yeah, Superman had been hovering next to the sun for God knows how long. And the fact he still was done in by Kryptonite makes hardly any sense considering the fact he was super charged enough to dismiss Black Adam with minimal effort, anyway.
not you, people hate superman's character because he was/is way too powerful. Maybe just the casual comic fans, but then to say that even then he has maybe a slight chance to win.
I only brought up the pre crisis feat because you yourself said to bring up the high end insane feats and he may have a chance. This superman will beat up tyrant in his sleep.
the dcu online superman wasn't in the sun, like a true sundipped superman, It was more of a sun amp and don't give a fuk superman. AND he treated BA like a flea.
I don't think a sun amp will cure him of his k weakness. I think he evolve past it over time like KC Superman.
Truth is that Superman has the feats that dwarf many and somehow is hard to digest that a serious superman can challenge some characters on the next tier. Specially since the superman portrayed the most moves in a world made out of paper, he grew up like that and is part of his behaviour.
Thor or Ss are other two characters that hold back as well.
Tyrant defeated those heralds stealing energy out of those heralds.
Having said that, I think Tyrant will win, but also, a serious superman will put a better fight, than those weakened heralds did.
Uhmmm. Intersting, how will those heralds would have fared at full power vs Tyrant? Probably, he wouldn't look so hot.
Originally posted by DTM
I didnt think Tyrant drained any of that grouping until after he beat them unconscious (easily at that), or maybe Im remembering that wrong.
Originally posted by carver9
Context?
TVO IIRC, but you should read it
Originally posted by -Pr-
Not sure if serious thread...
I think is more an inquire trying to see why some may believe that and if is based on something more than wishful thinking.
Which HE has some high end feats that sugggest he could move between tiers like others.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Not sure if serious thread...
It;s serious, I really wanted to see how many people believed that Superman could beat him. I mean look, people don't debate based on characters much more, because the tier system at times means an auto win for certain characters. Sometimes it's flat out wrong, so I just wanted to see how many people thought that Kal stands a chance, if he were to go at it with Tyrant like Lois depended on it.
Plus as I mentioned, a friend believes that Superman is stronger than Tyrant. I wanted to prove him wrong.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What? How does my post equate into "Superman hate" at all? 😬I like Superman, pretty much in all of his incarnations and enjoy his stories. That doesn't mean I think he can beat anyone. And pointing out that you'd have to specifically use high end/crazy showings of Superman and throw out everything else to justify him beating or even having a chance against certain characters doesn't translate into "hating him because he's so powerful".
Not sure why you'd bring up a Pre-Crisis feat here, but okay?
And yeah, Superman had been hovering next to the sun for God knows how long. And the fact he still was done in by Kryptonite makes hardly any sense considering the fact he was super charged enough to dismiss Black Adam with minimal effort, anyway.