Superman vs Tyrant (No holds barred)

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Maybe in the distant past yes but you would do well to prove that statement to be true now.

Even just before the reboot, he was doing it pretty consistently.

You could even argue that he's been doing it since then too.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Maybe in the distant past yes but you would do well to prove that statement to be true now.

Is just as easy as to read "the weird"

Character wrecks the JLA, Superman gives a fight.

This happened on the first issues after the post crisis and is been a constant

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even just before the reboot, he was doing it pretty consistently.

You could even argue that he's been doing it since then too.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
I'd disagree, in his own series his feats toned down a lot towards the end. Since the reboot, Clark isn't the center of DC's universe as he once was (although he's still arguably the most powerful on Earth) and looks more vulnerable aswell. It's only in the last few months he's really been producing high herald level feats with any kind of regularity.

He was only toned down in the Krypton series by Robinson, and even then he was taking on teams of people.

The reason he's seemed more vulnerable, imo, is because either a) it was in Action, when he was still growing, or b) because since the reboot he's been faced with a consistently higher level of villain.

@That Ignored Fellow who can't behave...

Tyrant doesn't job like Superman, getting ko'd by a Predator esque Extradimensional Alien because he's too quick and then go out and tag the Flash or tank lunar collisions in battles with the likes of Helspont.

Going from struggling with Street Levelers like random mutants, and then go out and cut a moon in half at 2.5 times the speed of light because he found out Obama Luthor is president, or containing a black hole by grabbing it like it doesn't even have an event horizon.

I meant it as in his power REALLY fluctuates, and it can be attributed to his mental blocks. Don't blame me you took it offensively to one of your Tyrannical Idols.

Superman hasn't struggled with a street leveller in years.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman hasn't struggled with a street leveller in years.

Yeah, a few years ago he gets sent into a solar coma by Doomsday, then a little bit ago he uses the Flash's super power to overcome a far stronger Doomsday who had Heat Vision of his own.

Originally posted by abhilegend
OWAW says hi.

Originally posted by Dolos
@That Ignored Fellow who can't behave...

Tyrant doesn't job like Superman, getting ko'd by a Predator esque Extradimensional Alien because he's too quick and then go out and tag the Flash or tank lunar collisions in battles with the likes of Helspont.

Going from struggling with Street Levelers like random mutants, and then go out and cut a moon in half at 2.5 times the speed of light because he found out Obama Luthor is president, or containing a black hole by grabbing it like it doesn't even have an event horizon.

I meant it as in his power REALLY fluctuates, and it can be attributed to his mental blocks. Don't blame me you took it offensively to one of your Tyrannical Idols.

I mean, there's a reason that at their averages, Tyrant is placed in a whole tier above Superman in the KMC comic forums. I am also guessing that you've never heard of DP Tyrant. Again, read a comic for a change. It'll benefit you greatly the next time you post on this forum.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Read a comic, you tool. It's clear that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, spouting inane bullshit like that. Struggling with street-levelers? That's an obsolete argument made by pre-pubescents on comicvine.

I mean, there's a reason that at their averages, Tyrant is placed in a whole tier above Superman in the KMC comic forums. I am also guessing that you've never heard of DP Tyrant. Again, read a comic for a change. It'll benefit you greatly the next time you post on this forum.

Don't make me have to come in there and separate you two. 😛

Originally posted by Stoic
Don't make me have to come in there and separate you two. 😛

Hang on......

😎

K, I'm good.

Originally posted by Stoic
Don't make me have to come in there and separate you two. 😛

for backseat modding

Okay, your assertion is that I'm uninformed for claiming that Superman fluctuates more than Tyrant between jobbing specifically and high end feats, then you reference a stronger depiction of Tyrant?

How exactly does that counter what I said?

In any case, that's one example of a high end feats, versus typical old Tyrant, Superman is actively portrayed lower than usual and higher than usual.

I believe this is because the author's attempts at trying not to overpower him...it's not like they haven't created a shit storm of weaknesses specially for the Man of Steel.

Originally posted by Dolos
Okay, your assertion is that I'm uninformed for claiming that Superman fluctuates more than Tyrant between [b]jobbing specifically and high end feats, then you reference a stronger depiction of Tyrant? [/B]

Originally posted by Dolos
How exactly does that counter what I said?

Originally posted by Dolos
In any case, that's one example of a high end feats, versus typical old Tyrant, Superman is actively portrayed lower than usual and higher than usual.

Originally posted by Dolos
I believe this is because the author's attempts at trying not to overpower him...it's not like they haven't created a shit storm of weaknesses specially for the Man of Steel.

superman wins,thread over

Originally posted by TheGodKiller What example are you talking about? Take all their showings into account, including both high-end feats and low showings, Tyrant still comes out ahead by a significant margin.

Get back to me when you yourself are sure about what you're trying to convey.

Just because you misinterpreted the first comment you quoted, and what I was getting at in the first place, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm trying to say.

I'm not averaging out low and high end feats...I am saying that Superman's high end feats, the ones that have been claimed in this very thread to be absurd showings, space time shattering strikes, strikes that take apart planets, numerous ftl showings, tanking a super nova, tanking the Mageddon Warhead...can be attributed to the epitome of Superman when the stakes are highest and there are no mental blocks...

Thus I could make an argument that discards his low end feats.

So how does Tyrant's feats stack up against the aforementioned Superman feats while powered by the Heralds?

Are we using depowered Tyrant, Stoic?

Originally posted by Dolos
I'm not averaging out low and high end feats...I am saying that Superman's high end feats, the ones that have been claimed in this very thread to be absurd showings, space time shattering strikes, strikes that take apart planets, numerous ftl showings, tanking a super nova, tanking the Mageddon Warhead...can be attributed to the epitome of Superman when the stakes are highest and there are no mental blocks...

Originally posted by Dolos

Thus I could make an argument that discards his low end feats.

Originally posted by Dolos

So how does Tyrant's feats stack up against the aforementioned Superman feats while powered by the Heralds?

Originally posted by Dolos

Are we using depowered Tyrant, Stoic?

Edit: Also, if you have me on ignore then honor the function and stop playing peek-a-boo.

superman wins

OWAW or FC Superman could win a majority. Standard loses though.