That's the main point I've been trying to make.
Even without sun-dip amp, or similarly to Tyrant being powered up, or the Hulk being angry, Superman's power fluctuates with his mental blocks. In OWAW we get Mongul II training him to overcome his mental blocks, and his feats sky-rocket.
Superman has both solar radiation and sun dip to attribute to why his feats fluctuate, more so than Tyrant does. Why not drop more feats from Superman? Especially because it's in character for him to make overpowered opponents, opponents stronger than him in the past like Darkseid, Imperiax, Doomsday Rex, (and War World and Solaris with sun-dip or sun-orbit amp,) etc, job to him. It's not like he doesn't make up powers on the fly sometimes.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Thinking that this should be closed for spite. Any objections? Or rather, any serious, educated objections?
I have no argument with this...
My argument is more of an in-character/portrayal of characters argument. More along the lines of CIS, a kind of he wins because he's Superman and he needs to win and "Superman is as strong as he needs to be."
I'll humbly admit that, as TGK has demonstrated, I know very little of Tyrant. Despite my limited knowledge, the members of KMC have put him in a higher tier than Superman, so obviously his feats must average out higher..
This I guess is a spite thread for Stoic's "friend", if said individual isn't an excuse for a normal spite thread. Either way, lower tier vs higher tier looks like spite - and I think Stoic has received sufficient feedback on that subject.
Originally posted by Diesldude
says the guy who picked thanos over lucifer and TOAA. 😬
Replies like that "clears it" should not be taken seriously.
Originally posted by Dolos
Just because you misinterpreted the first comment you quoted, and what I was getting at in the first place, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm trying to say.I'm not averaging out low and high end feats...I am saying that Superman's high end feats, the ones that have been claimed in this very thread to be absurd showings, space time shattering strikes, strikes that take apart planets, numerous ftl showings, tanking a super nova, tanking the Mageddon Warhead...can be attributed to the epitome of Superman when the stakes are highest and there are no mental blocks...
Thus I could make an argument that discards his low end feats.
So how does Tyrant's feats stack up against the aforementioned Superman feats while powered by the Heralds?
Are we using depowered Tyrant, Stoic?
Yes because I don't know what a full powered Tyrant is. I mean we've never seen him do much on panel. Let's stick to what we know is what I'm thinking.
Originally posted by DTM
I didnt think Tyrant drained any of that grouping until after he beat them unconscious (easily at that), or maybe Im remembering that wrong.
Yep, I just confirm it.
He did beat most heralds via ambush.
Worth to mention here, some of those heralds were already very weak.
Morg and Terrax were just being battling each other for a while.
Like Beta just woke up from the beating he got from B&T Thor. If any I believe B&T Thor actually faced a more well rested team of charatcters than Tyrant and b&t Thor was not syphoning energy from his enemies like Tyrant was doing right before He faced the Heralds.
And B&T Thor did not have an army of herald powered robots to help him fight. AND Morg and Terrax did not really help vs Tyrant.
If any was 4 weakened Heralds vs Tyrant.
Lots of context actually change points of view.
Now I wonder b&t Thor vs Tyrant who will come out on top?