Yes, Bruce would just fight them all one on 30 physically and be mauled. He wouldn't try to escape(which he could), he wouldn't strategize w/o prep beforehand(because he apparently is incapable of that), and he isn't smart enough to figure out how to incapacitate/capture 30 animals with a whole jungle presumably full of caves, cliffs, etc at his disposal. 2 cowboys can herd who knows how much wild cattle into a pen, but no, the most superhuman human in dcu can't pull this off. Its way more than hes dealt with.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, Bruce would just fight them all one on 30 physically and be mauled. He wouldn't try to escape(which he could), he wouldn't strategize w/o prep beforehand(because he apparently is incapable of that), and he isn't smart enough to figure out how to incapacitate/capture 30 animals with a whole jungle presumably full of caves, cliffs, etc at his disposal. 2 cowboys can herd who knows how much wild cattle into a pen, but no, the most superhuman human in dcu can't pull this off. Its way more than hes dealt with.
The OP says that Bruce is in the middle of 30 Gorillas. Strength dictates speed.. a gorillas burst speeds are far greater than a humans. There is a greater chance that they would grab him than it would be for him to simply evade them all. If however he were able to escape and go into a cave they would cease the pursuit. Gorillas are territorial not evil by nature. If he went at them like they were a finely tuned group of ninja's he would be destroyed though.
Originally posted by namorsubby
So what you all are saying is that if 30 regular, "real life" gorrillas went against bruce in a comic, they would have him lose because he isnt smart enough to do away with wild animals like real life humans do other than beating them all down physically? Lol ok I'm done.
Can you please give an example of rl human who has outsmarted and survived being surrounded by Gorillas in a circle out to kill him/her.
Heck they don't even have to do it bare handed if you can cite one.
Originally posted by Stoic
The OP says that Bruce is in the middle of 30 Gorillas. Strength dictates speed.. a gorillas burst speeds are far greater than a humans. There is a greater chance that they would grab him than it would be for him to simply evade them all. If however he were able to escape and go into a cave they would cease the pursuit. Gorillas are territorial not evil by nature. If he went at them like they were a finely tuned group of ninja's he would be destroyed though.
Yeah, but of course we know he wouldn't make it to a cave. Tactics only matter if you have the distance and the time to employ them. If we give him time or distance he has a chance . If we just throw him into a circle of gorillas intent on killing him with no equipment, he's dead. It's pretty much common sense. a gorilla can easily kill a man with one swipe.
What are Wayne's choices? He can't go anywhere on the ground he's surrounded. He can't go up because the Gorillas climb faster than he does and there are thirty of them. Literally his only option is an exercise of knowledge of animal Psychology that he can pull off in 10 seconds, and I don't think you can find a primatologist on Earth that would confidently state that he knows he could get out of that situation. And those are people who ONLY do that, Bats is a polymath and this isn't even his specialty. Furthermore Gorillas are extremely individual, they aren't as pack minded as certain other animals, so you would have to convince each one to desist; within 10 seconds.
Now if you give Bats his utility belt back the gorillas will literally be helpless, it wouldn't even be a match. That huge difference is why I think Namor's claims don't mean much until he puts up some feats of Batman's without his utility belt..
http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfuv2.jpg
Not really sure how to post links but I found this in Batman's respect thread and thought it might be relevant. I'm not sure of the context but it appears that Batman took out a bunch of cyberneticaly enhanced gorillas with nerve strikes.
Originally posted by Raptor22well he MAY be able to last a while an take out a few, but 30 bloodlust silverback gorillas I don't think he's winning this at all
http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asdfuv2.jpgNot really sure how to post links but I found this in Batman's respect thread and thought it might be relevant. I'm not sure of the context but it appears that Batman took out a bunch of cyberneticaly enhanced gorillas with nerve strikes.
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedNot at all necessary. Batman is to real humans what Superman is to Batman.lol
Can you please give an example of rl human who has outsmarted and survived being surrounded by Gorillas in a circle out to kill him/her.Heck they don't even have to do it bare handed if you can cite one.
Originally posted by Perceiver1lol I guess you all have reduced bruce to the formmidability of an actual real life man for this fight, huh? It is much more likely that bruce would oneshot a gorilla in a comic than vice versa. Hell, Wildcat has oneshotted a polar bear.
Yeah, but of course we know he wouldn't make it to a cave. Tactics only matter if you have the distance and the time to employ them. If we give him time or distance he has a chance . If we just throw him into a circle of gorillas intent on killing him with no equipment, he's dead. It's pretty much common sense. a gorilla can [B]easily kill a man with one swipe.What are Wayne's choices? He can't go anywhere on the ground he's surrounded. He can't go up because the Gorillas climb faster than he does and there are thirty of them. Literally his only option is an exercise of knowledge of animal Psychology that he can pull off in 10 seconds, and I don't think you can find a primatologist on Earth that would confidently state that he knows he could get out of that situation. And those are people who ONLY do that, Bats is a polymath and this isn't even his specialty. Furthermore Gorillas are extremely individual, they aren't as pack minded as certain other animals, so you would have to convince each one to desist; within 10 seconds.
Now if you give Bats his utility belt back the gorillas will literally be helpless, it wouldn't even be a match. That huge difference is why I think Namor's claims don't mean much until he puts up some feats of Batman's without his utility belt.. [/B]
Here bruce pulls a few 1000lb cape buffalos with a rope and wrestles the down bare handed to form shelter from a stampede. Im absolutely sure a real life gorilla would not be strong enough to do that. Comics>>>Reality. You guys need to get out more.lol
Originally posted by Silent MasterYes, that was literally what I meant. It wasnt a joke or anything....its not like I put an "lol" at the end, right?
Batman is millions of times stronger,faster, more durable etc than real world humans?
Is there a gas leak around here somewhere?
Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, that was literally what I meant. It wasnt a joke or anything....its not like I put an "lol" at the end, right?Is there a gas leak around here somewhere?
Right, so you were joking about Batman being far above real world humans, in that case you must believe that he gets destroyed in this match then. Seeing as 1 silver back would be enough to pwn multiple RL humans.
Originally posted by Silent MasterIt was an overexaggeration meant to be a joke, but yes, Bruce is MUCH stronger, faster, etc etc than a real life human or even a real life gorilla.
Right, so you were joking about Batman being far above real world humans, in that case you must believe that he gets destroyed in this match then. Seeing as 1 silver back would be enough to pwn multiple RL humans.
I know youre not really that ignorant and youre justing being antagonistic to an absurd extent, but I bit anyway and decided to "clarify" what I meant(as if you needed me to).
Originally posted by namorsubby
It was an overexaggeration meant to be a joke, but yes, Bruce is MUCH stronger, faster, etc etc than a real life human or even a real life gorilla.I know youre not really that ignorant and youre justing being antagonistic to an absurd extent, but I bit anyway and decided to "clarify" what I meant(as if you needed me to).
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