3rd Raikage vs Hashirama Senju

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only on-panel feats, for example feats that are manga only and feats done by the 3rd or hashi directly, not other people using their powers/techniques

Originally posted by psycho gundam

look at that face. He's phucking adorable.

Originally posted by Damborgson
look at that face. He's phucking adorable.

Don't lie. You're only interested in his wood. biscuits

I don't think the 3rd has a chance. Naruto was able to defeat in sage mode. I don't think the 3rd would hold up to Hash's overwhelming power.

naruto used his own technique against him, and it's unknown if it was even considered a fatal blow (assuming non-zombie form)

I was under the impression that it was a show stopper since it nearly killed alive. Hell, I though it was stated that ET enhanced regen, so Naruto would have done more damage with just his frs if the 3rd wasn't ET

most likely. not to mention that if Naruto was able to keep up with the 3rd Raikge enouhg to land that hit and Hashirama is faster than this is to Hashirama's advantage.

Hell Finger Stab, ridiculous stamina, and Lightning Armor with speed,

vs.

Genjutsu that renders sight useless, Giant Wood Constructs (one of which makes the Kyuubi look like a puppy and can bust Susanoo; others that can block Bijuu Damas and swords that can cut through mountains), Sage Mode, speed on par with Madara who had no trouble reacting to A, Wood Clones, and Healing techs on par with Tsunade's Byakugou.

How is this not a mis-match?

^ My thoughts exactly. lol

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Don't lie. You're only interested in his wood. biscuits

😂

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hell Finger Stab, ridiculous stamina, and Lightning Armor with speed,

vs.

Genjutsu that renders sight useless, Giant Wood Constructs (one of which makes the Kyuubi look like a puppy and can bust Susanoo; others that can block Bijuu Damas and swords that can cut through mountains), Sage Mode, speed on par with Madara who had no trouble reacting to A, Wood Clones, and Healing techs on par with Tsunade's Byakugou.

How is this not a mis-match?

I don't see a total stomp

The one who can summon a mountain-sized Buddha that can beat the Kyuubi and Susano'o armour like a two dollar ho.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
no wind chackra, though. Izuna can be said to have a lot of stuff his bro had, but he still got wft ran though cause he's not invincible. The 3rd is nigh-invincible in his sleep and then can further increase it with raiton armour.

I don't see a total stomp

Hashirama's raw power output is a lot higher than what we saw the 3rd tank.

I don't either given his crazy durability, but I don't see it being even. The 3rd has to get close to Hashirama to hurt him, and that is going to be next to impossible when Hashirama has his genjutsu activated, and is on one of his constructs.

Heck, the 3rd died after fighting for three days. I bet with his wood stamina Hashirama could wear him out 🙂

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
...Sage Mode...

No, Hashirama does not have Sage Mode. I don't know where the wiki got that from but his mode is not Sage Mode: it is storing up his own chakra and then burning it up very quickly at once.

That is not taking in nature chakra like Kabuto or Naruto.

Wiki is wrong. Should be edited. Until it says, in the manga, "Hashirama had sage mode" or something like it, he does not have sage mode.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, Hashirama does not have Sage Mode. I don't know where the wiki got that from but his mode is not Sage Mode: it is storing up his own chakra and then burning it up very quickly at once.

That is not taking in nature chakra like Kabuto or Naruto.

Wiki is wrong. Should be edited. Until it says, in the manga, "Hashirama had sage mode" or something like it, he does not have sage mode.

But it does.

http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v63/c621/14.html

Senpô: Mokuton: Shin Sûsenju.

Literally translates means = Sage Art: Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands.

And one cannot do Sage Jutsu... without Sage Chakra mode....

Granted though, Hashirama's sage mode is not, or at least does not appear to be, animal related like Naruto, Jiraya and Kabuto's were. So, we have no idea where, how, or from whom he learned it. So, in essence, all we know is that it allows him to do an even bigger asspull than Susanoo itself.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, Hashirama does not have Sage Mode. I don't know where the wiki got that from but his mode is not Sage Mode: it is storing up his own chakra and then burning it up very quickly at once.

That is not taking in nature chakra like Kabuto or Naruto.

Wiki is wrong. Should be edited. Until it says, in the manga, "Hashirama had sage mode" or something like it, he does not have sage mode.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Granted though, Hashirama's sage mode is not, or at least does not appear to be, animal related like Naruto, Jiraya and Kabuto's were. So, we have no idea where, how, or from whom he learned it. So, in essence, all we know is that it allows him to do an even bigger asspull than Susanoo itself.

http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v61/c579/12.html

There's a third place where Sage Mode could be learned from. Presumably, it is slug related.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
But it does.

http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v63/c621/14.html

Senpô: Mokuton: Shin Sûsenju.

Literally translates means = Sage Art: Wood Release: True Several Thousand Hands.

Sage Arts are not necessarily tied completely and wholly to a Sage Mode. Just because a wiki says it, does not make it true.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
And one cannot do Sage Jutsu... without Sage Chakra mode....

Incorrect. This is not confirmed in canon nor stated by Kishimoto in any interviews.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
What DZ said.
Storing up a bunch of chakra and releasing it all at once is what Tsunade does, and she has a mark on her forehead that disappears when she does. Hashirama had no such thing.

This:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c577/3.html

Looks much closer to this:

(don't have time to look it up...here was supposed to be an image of Hashirama in his chakra release mode).

Then this:

(This is supposed to be Naruto in Sage Mode)

This is what made me think that Tsunade is using a technique similar to Hashirama's:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c576/15.html

Originally posted by dadudemon
This:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c577/3.html

Looks much closer to this:

(don't have time to look it up...here was supposed to be an image of Hashirama in his chakra release mode).

Then this:

(This is supposed to be Naruto in Sage Mode)

This:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v45/c415/2.html

Looks much closer to this:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v56/c526/8.html

Than this:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v42/c389/15.html

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