Originally posted by carver9
Sure did...don't know why you would bring up Classic Superman in one thread as a power source but in another say he is unusable.
Wait, so you failed to see the point of me bringing-up what a WEAKER version of Superman than the one in H/P did to show as a comparison to Doomsday, considering Doomsday fought a Superman who'd been powered-up since that grappling with Blaze?
And you think it's the same thing as you bringing-up Superman dying in DEATH OF SUPERMAN despite the fact that Superman had several power-ups after that?
Also, since human Betty Banner owned a version of Hulk, Superman rapes Hulk a billion times out of 10. Carter Logic.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Hulk is still outclassed here. Superman wins. He just has too many options.
Superman is outclassed here and punching Hulk or heat visioning him will make him even more powerful. Hulk has fought people like Superman and won And superman has fought people like Hulk and won. If you don't know anything about Hulk, its best not to debate in threads involving him. From what I am seeing of your posts, you don't know about Hulk fts because everytime someone brings up a ft, you are unaware of it.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman is outclassed here and punching Hulk or heat visioning him will make him even more powerful. Hulk has fought people like Superman and won. If you don't know anything about Hulk, its best not to debate in threads involving him. From what I am seeing of your posts, you don't know about Hulk fts because everytime someone brings up a ft, you are unaware of it.It gets tiresome spoon feeding you scans.
you don't know anything about Superman, yet here you are.
Originally posted by Odekahnfreeze breath aint doing shit.
Hulk is still outclassed here. Superman wins. He just has too many options.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman is outclassed here and punching Hulk or heat visioning him will make him even more powerful. Hulk has fought people like Superman and won. If you don't know anything about Hulk, its best not to debate in threads involving him. From what I am seeing of your posts, you don't know about Hulk fts because everytime someone brings up a ft, you are unaware of it.It gets tiresome spoon feeding you scans.
And Hulk has also been beaten by people "like" Superman too.
And sorry, but considering the source, it's important to check the accuracy of claims.
Also, you do realize that people who don't actually take part in the discussions lurk here, right? Not everyone is as comic guru-like as others and I think showing instances when they are brought up is important to the discussion. I would say, don't make claims if you don't want to back them up.
Originally posted by OdekahnI love debateing you in particular yet you ignore me.....JERK! MY FEELINGS ARE CRUSHED.....just like supermans body
And Hulk has also been beaten by people "like" Superman too.And sorry, but considering the source, it's important to check the accuracy of claims.
Also, you do realize that people who don't actually take part in the discussions lurk here, right? Not everyone is as comic guru-like as others and I think showing instances when they are brought up is important to the discussion. I would say, don't make claims if you don't want to back them up.
Originally posted by Odekahn
And Hulk has also been beaten by people "like" Superman too.And sorry, but considering the source, it's important to check the accuracy of claims.
Also, you do realize that people who don't actually take part in the discussions lurk here, right? Not everyone is as comic guru-like as others and I think showing instances when they are brought up is important to the discussion. I would say, don't make claims if you don't want to back them up.
Odekahn, I enjoy debating against you (alot more than others TBH) but lets keep it real here, you haven't read much on WWH.
Lets not bring up low showings here but what Superman like character defeated the Hulk? What Herald? Not saying that it didn't happen but I'm wondering who you are talking about.
Hulk has defeated Hyperion, Gladiator, ran through Genis, destroyed Captain Marvell, defeated an all out Sentry that was stated on panel as using his power of a million exploding suns. Black Bolt has defeated him with his voice in the past. I'm trying to figure out what other Herald has defeated him. He ran through jack of hearts. Aaaahhhhh, surfer did defeat him by draining him of his gamma radiation. Superman wins 10/10 due to gamma draining.
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
freeze breath aint doing shit.
Heat vision gets weaker when away from the sun He most his other powers are gone because they need super speed.( such as vibrating to become invisible) he has Slower healing factor, cant get stronger as he fights so I fail to see where hes more versatile
I don't think freeze breath will stop him all by its lonesome, but it will be a factor. There are too many variables that FB can factor in.
It can slow Hulk down via means of obstacles or simply changing the battleground. And Superman also has Super Breath. If Hulk gets too close, a puff of air would be like a hurricane suddenly falling on Hulk. Clark is extremely intelligent and isn't foreign to using science and physics to take down an opponent.
Also, I'm still wanting to see Hulk recover from a concentrated head blow like the one he delivered to Wolverine in WWH that messed up Logan's healing factor.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman is outclassed here and punching Hulk or heat visioning him will make him even more powerful. Hulk has fought people like Superman and won And superman has fought people like Hulk and won. If you don't know anything about Hulk, its best not to debate in threads involving him. From what I am seeing of your posts, you don't know about Hulk fts because everytime someone brings up a ft, you are unaware of it.
Pre-DOS Superman one-shots Lobo and Lar Gand(two Top-Tiers) by smashing their heads together.
Superman one-shots a Top-Tier white Martian with a casual backhanded blow as she's trying to sneak-up on him.
Superman one-shots the Above Top-Tier Despero with Heat Vision.
Superman one-shot rips apart the Top-Tier Bizarro enhanced by O.M.A.C. tech(and people are impressed by Sentry ripping Ares apart?)
Superman bursts-through the universal reality manipulating Emperor Joker.....while holding back.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Strength/Striking-Throwing/Bursts_Through_EJ
Bursts through a universal(perhaps multiversal) version of Death.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Strength/Striking-Throwing/Death
Darkseid becomes Soulfire Darkseid and fights The Source/ALE combined being, in a fight that devastates so badly it's "cuts reality to The Bleed." Scott Free with the ALE alone was able to destroy The Source Wall, which was likely galaxy sized.
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Infinity_Man/VS_Scott_Free
http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Darkseid/SF_Darkseid_vs_The_Source-ALE
Not a scratch on Darkseid. Superman bursts through him.
Hulk is outclassed.
Carter--
Originally posted by carver9
Odekahn, I enjoy debating against you (alot more than others TBH) but lets keep it real here, you haven't read much on WWH.Lets not bring up low showings here but what Superman like character defeated the Hulk? What Herald? Not saying that it didn't happen but I'm wondering who you are talking about.
Hulk has defeated Hyperion, Gladiator, ran through Genis, destroyed Captain Marvell, defeated an all out Sentry that was stated on panel as using his power of a million exploding suns. Black Bolt has defeated him with his voice in the past. I'm trying to figure out what other Herald has defeated him. He ran through jack of hearts. Aaaahhhhh, surfer did defeat him by draining him of his gamma radiation. Superman wins 10/10 due to gamma draining.
I was mainly talking about Thor, but how about Aquarius?
And I've read my share of Hulk and do have lots of books (and merchandise period) with him in it, although I must admit when it comes to Hulk I tend to wait for the graphic novels and don't keep up with the latest trade paper backs.