Originally posted by -Pr-
You lowballed Doomsday plenty. What, you think I can only see the last post you made?And I wasn't just talking about you. You were included, sure, but there were more.
The only thing I said about Doomsday is, he doesn't have fts that puts him on Hulk level. Come on, you dont think he is as powerful as Hulk, do you? Hulk fts as of late has him comparable durability wise to adamantium. Its near impossible to damage him.
Originally posted by carver9
Doomsday doesn't have a single ft that puts him on Hulks level, not one. That's like me posting this as reference that Hulk can beat Superman.http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media-full//3114412-0871561041-Hulk__zps8dda60a4.jpg.html
Cryptoman...if you need to know how powerful this version of Cryptoman was then here.
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media-full//3114408-3722992211-Hulk__zps291d82fd.jpg.html
Then the Doctor gave him MORE POWER.
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/3114411-8848111281-Hulk__zpsfb201b09.jpg.html
He started off with half of Thor power but the Doctor you see DOUBLED that power which made him stronger than Thor. Then he gave him more power.
Hulk shattered him. I would never argue that Hulk would stomp Superman because of this.
Here is my Doomsday post. Never said he didn't have any fts.
Originally posted by carver9
The only thing I said about Doomsday is, he doesn't have fts that puts him on Hulk level. Come on, you dont think he is as powerful as Hulk, do you? Hulk fts as of late has him comparable durability wise to adamantium. Its near impossible to damage him.
You said he was featless, which is false.
You said a dose of heat vision took him out, when it didn't.
Acting like all it took was one blast of heat vision is lowballing, Carter. And yes, I'm going to keep calling you that until you stop lowballing.
He is on Hulk's level though, as he's a legitimate herald. Hulk could still beat him, but that doesn't suddenly mean Doomsday is shit.
You need to understand that.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I've been breaking Quan in defense of Superman for several posts now!Take notes!
If that's the best you can do, I feel bad for you.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You said he was featless, which is false.You said a dose of heat vision took him out, when it didn't.
Acting like all it took was one blast of heat vision is lowballing, Carter. And yes, I'm going to keep calling you that until you stop lowballing.
He is on Hulk's level though, as he's a legitimate herald. Hulk could still beat him, but that doesn't suddenly mean Doomsday is shit.
You need to understand that.
If that's the best you can do, I feel bad for you.
Ok...good point about the heat vision since that wasn't the only attack he endured at that moment but imo he isn't as durable as Hulk and nothing short of a pounding and a barrage of high end energy is taking Hulk out.
Never said Doomsday was weak though. Just said he isn't on Hulks OR Supermans level.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I like to draw out my conquests and savor every moment of victory.DON'T RUSH ME!
When you actually achieve anything close to victory, let me know.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok...good point about the heat vision since that wasn't the only attack he endured at that moment but imo he isn't as durable as Hulk and nothing short of a pounding and a barrage of high end energy is taking Hulk out.Never said Doomsday was weak though. Just said he isn't on Hulks OR Supermans level.
How could he not be on Superman's level given the fight they had?
Originally posted by -Pr-
When you actually achieve anything close to victory, let me know.How could he not be on Superman's level given the fight they had?
Superman showed that he was superior when he stopped holding back. Also, Doomsday fled from Superman because he/it felt as if he wasn't powerful enough to face him.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman showed that he was superior when he stopped holding back. Also, Doomsday fled from Superman because he/it felt as if he wasn't powerful enough to face him.
Superman is superior to most people when he stops holding back, but those people are still considered heralds. It's been going since long before the reboot too, so i'm not sure I see your point.
Doomsday was powering up at the time (iirc Cyborg said so).
Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman is superior to most people when he stops holding back, but those people are still considered heralds. It's been going since long before the reboot too, so i'm not sure I see your point.Doomsday was powering up at the time (iirc Cyborg said so).
Agreed. A lot of Herald can jump a tier when pushed which means my statement is true since we both know Doomsday doesn't hold back.
Doomsday was getting more powerful but his meeting with Superman wasn't meant to be. Diana went looking for him for revenge which resulted in Superman and Doomsday fighting iirc. We have no clue if he was at his peak condition, powerful enough to face Supes since we didn't receive confirmation of this (that I'm aware of). The only thing we know is before hand he wasn't fully developed to face Superman in the beginning. He received a power increase, poison but it was never mentioned if he reached his full potential.
Originally posted by carver9
Agreed. A lot of Herald can jump a tier when pushed which means my statement is true since we both know Doomsday doesn't hold back.Doomsday was getting more powerful but his meeting with Superman wasn't meant to be. Diana went looking for him for revenge which resulted in Superman and Doomsday fighting iirc. We have no clue if he was at his peak condition, powerful enough to face Supes since we didn't receive confirmation of this (that I'm aware of). The only thing we know is before hand he wasn't fully developed to face Superman in the beginning. He received a power increase, poison but it was never mentioned if he reached his full potential.
Or maybe Doomsday is the kind of character that Superman has to cut loose just to hang with?
It was stated in the books that Doomsday was powering up to face Superman, yes? So why stay and fight when they did meet again? Unless of course he was at the power level required? Doomsday chased Superman, remember?
Originally posted by carver9
About to reread the book
lol, suuure.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Or maybe Doomsday is the kind of character that Superman has to cut loose just to hang with?It was stated in the books that Doomsday was powering up to face Superman, yes? So why stay and fight when they did meet again? Unless of course he was at the power level required? Doomsday chased Superman, remember?
lol, suuure.
Come on Pr...This isn't a knock against Superman or anything but he was more powerful than Doomsday. No 'peer' can just grab another peer and rip them in half and Superman was already hanging with him from the getgo.
Yeah, it did say he was looking for Superman during the end...teleporting everywhere. Doesn't matter though due to what I wrote above.
Originally posted by carver9
Come on Pr...This isn't a knock against Superman or anything but he was more powerful than Doomsday. No 'peer' can just grab another peer and rip them in half and Superman was already hanging with him from the getgo.Yeah, it did say he was looking for Superman during the end...teleporting everywhere. Doesn't matter though due to what I wrote above.
I never said Superman wasn't more powerful than Doomsday. I consider him to be, yes. I also consider him to be more strong than Doomsday is durable, when push comes to shove. That doesn't exclude the possibility, though, that Doomsday is someone that Superman has to push himself to beat.
How-so?
Originally posted by -Pr-
I never said Superman wasn't more powerful than Doomsday. I consider him to be, yes. I also consider him to be more strong than Doomsday is durable, when push comes to shove. That doesn't exclude the possibility, though, that Doomsday is someone that Superman has to push himself to beat.How-so?
You see, that's what I'm trying to get you to understand though. We have nothing to compare their battle too. If Doomsday would of fought someone and actually defeated them, someone on Superman level or little below, then we can use that as evidence of how powerful Doomsday is/was. The fights he does have though, he lost. He fought Zod (who didn't have his Kryptonian powers at the time) and lost. Now he did break WW arms but she even said he caught her off guard. So we have nothing. It's an open window tbh.
I personally don't think using that fight is evidence that he would pull a majority against people like Thor or Hulk or whoever... Superman has better fts than his fight against Doomsday. It was a good showing for him but I think the fight was rushed. Don't see people going around praising Cyborg after he did this...
http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/galanpics/media/rod_cyborg10.jpg.html
And this Doomsday have fts from beating teams to slaughtering Heralds.
Glad we agree that Superman is stronger and more durable than Doomsday. At least we are on the same page with that.
