Imhotep vs Voldemort

Started by Silent Master41 pages

I've already explained why you're wrong.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've already explained why you're wrong.
He occupied a physical body and you don't dictate the rules of their fictional universe, gaara.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His soul is stripped thus making him mortal. I agree. The soul is the immortal part of man, kiddo.

Voldemort one shots him. No magical immunity.

😂 You've been arguing that immortal form Imhotep died for pages, just one example:

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see an immortal die.

Immortal Imhotep never died. Glad you finally agree. Immortal Imhotep is the version being used here; not the mortal.

Voldermort has nothing to one shot him with. Last time I checked, AV wasn't from the book of Amun-Ra. We only see one spell work on him, a spell specifically designed to take away his immortality from a book of a god. So prove he has "no magical immunity". Stop making claims you don't support.

Originally posted by Robtard
😂 You've been arguing that immortal form Imhotep died for pages, just one example:

Immortal Imhotep never died. Glad you finally agree. Immortal Imhotep is the version being used here; not the mortal.

Voldermort has nothing to one shot him with. We only see one spell work on him, a spell specifcally designed to take away his immortality from a book of a god. So prove he has "no magical immunity". Stop making claims you don't support.

His immortality only made him immune to mortal weaponry as per movie.

There's usually always a way to kill an immortal. Separating the soul from body makes him mortal.

No limits fallacy. One shot kill or torture for laughs.

Originally posted by Robtard
😂 You've been arguing that immortal form Imhotep died for pages, just one example:

Immortal Imhotep never died. Glad you finally agree. Immortal Imhotep is the version being used here; not the mortal.

Voldermort has nothing to one shot him with. We only see one spell work on him, a spell specifcally designed to take away his immortality from a book of a god. So prove he has "no magical immunity". Stop making claims you don't support.

He's not even smart enough to realize the difference between being immortal and anchoring your soul so that you can be resurrected.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's not even smart enough to realize the difference between being immortal and anchoring your soul so that you can be resurrected.
Watch the movies you're embarrassing yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His immortality only made him immune to mortal weaponry as per movie.

There's usually always a way to kill an immortal. Separating the soul from body makes him mortal.

No limits fallacy. One shot kill or torture for laughs.

His immortality made him incapable of being killed. Once that was taken away, he could be killed. ie "mortal", as per the film. Which you don't remember anything about as I've had to correct you several times now.

Thanks, I obviously watched the film and did link you to the wiki which finally made you do a 180*.

Considering I'm saying Imhotep can be killed if he's made mortal, no. But the clown insisting AV can kill anything doesn't get to accuse others of no limit fallacies.

Originally posted by Robtard
His immortality made him capable of being killed, ie "mortal", as per the film. Which you don't remember anything about as I've had to correct you several times now.

Thanks, I obviously watched the film and did link you to the wiki.

Considering I'm saying Imhotep can be killed if he's made mortal, no. But the clown insisting AV can kill anything doesn't get to accuse others of no limit fallacies.

He's only unkillable per mortal weaponry. You don't have one single example of him resisting magic.

Av is specific magic whereas Imhotep hasn't resisted specific magic. Voldemort wins just like Harry Potter wins over in Lotr since you abandoned it therefore submitting the thread to me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's only unkillable per mortal weaponry. You don't have one single example of him resisting magic.

Av is specific magic whereas Imhotep hasn't resisted specific magic. Voldemort wins just like Harry Potter wins over in Lotr since you abandoned it therefore submitting the thread to me.

You don't have a single example of Imhotep being killed while immortal. You don't have a single example of Imhotep being harmed by magic. Only thing you have is a spell designed specifically to make him mortal, making him mortal and you're trying to insist AV can do something similar. This is why you fail and continue to fail.

AV is a spell that kills. Why it's called the "killing curse". Your no limit fallacy that it can kill anything, except Harry under the love spell regardless of other outside HP factors is just that and can be ignored. LoTR isn't in this thread, so another derp tactic from you.

Originally posted by Robtard
You don't have a single example of him being killed while immortal. You don't have a single example of him being harmed by magic. Only think you have is a spell designed specifically to make him mortal, making him mortal. This is why you fail and continue to fail.

AV is a spell that kills. Why it's called the "killing curse". Your no limit fallacy that it can kill anything, no matter what is just that and can be ignored. LoTR isn't in this thread, so another derp tactic from you.

We have two examples of specific magic working on Imhotep so why wouldn't this magic work other than you hating Lord Voldemort ?

It kills and drives soul out. The av kills Imhotep due to him showing no resistance to magic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have two examples of specific magic working on Imhotep so why wouldn't this magic work other than you hating Lord Voldemort ?

It kills and drives soul out. The av kills Imhotep due to him showing no resistance to magic.

Repeat: Because Voldermort doesn't have a "specific" spell designed to strip someone of their immortality. Might as well argue that Imhotep can cast Voldermort's spells, cos you know, 'he's magic'. But I'm not a clown like you.

No limit fallacy. Ignoring.

Yeah, and the 2 specific magics that worked were both magics specifically designed to rob him of his immortality and invincibility. And considering he was an undead cursed mummy returned from the underworld, your claim of him having a soul is dubious at best.

Imhotep's got sand, water, wind(all 3 in abundance on a beach), tk, and he's more than agile enough to dodge any spell Voldemort throws at him even though it's not necessary.

Originally posted by Robtard
Repeat: Because Voldermort doesn't have a "specific" spell designed to strip someone of their immortality. Might as well argue that Imhotep can cast Voldermort's spells, cos you know, 'he's magic'. But I'm not a clown like you.

No limit fallacy. Ignoring.

He has a specific spell designed to kill which causes the soul to leave the body. I am dealing in logic and since Imhotep hasn't resisted any specific magic there's nothing to base off of that he can resist this spell or Crucio.

Voldemort wins.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, and the 2 specific magics that worked were both magics specifically designed to rob him of his immortality and invincibility. And considering he was an undead cursed mummy returned from the underworld, your claim of him having a soul is dubious at best.

Imhotep's got sand, water, wind(all 3 in abundance on a beach), tk, and he's more than agile enough to dodge any spell Voldemort throws at him even though it's not necessary.

In the same franchise his bride is specifically stated to only be his bride by her soul ala her memories/experiences.

Voldemort also has tk as does any HP wizard. 😆

Voldemort has two spells which win this easily. Imhotep doesn't dodge attacks you should watch the movies he calmly walks about thinking nothing can hurt him. You never argue in character.

Originally posted by Robtard
You don't have a single example of Imhotep being killed while immortal. You don't have a single example of Imhotep being harmed by magic. Only thing you have is a spell designed specifically to make him mortal, making him mortal and you're trying to insist AV can do something similar. This is why you fail and continue to fail.

AV is a spell that kills. Why it's called the "killing curse". Your no limit fallacy that it can kill anything, except Harry under the love spell regardless of other outside HP factors is just that and can be ignored. LoTR isn't in this thread, so another derp tactic from you.

Jedi rape.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Jedi rape.
One thing is for certain Robbie hates anything Harry Potter related.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One thing is for certain Robbie hates anything Harry Potter related.
I used to think this too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's only unkillable per mortal weaponry.
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Show us the proof or shut up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The word god is just a title. By that logic marvel ares slaughters the Silver Surfer.

Voldemort can only be truly killed under special circumstances.

Crucio or Avada Kedavra. No resistance to magic of any kind. Voldemort wins.

In some cases, marvel is such a example. However you don't go around comparing the "Magic" that the Gods from Clash of the Titans used to the one from HP do you? The magic from The Sorcerers Apprentice is imo a good example on when two types of magic are comparable. The magic used against Imhotep isn't such a example imo.

No Voldemort dies just like any other mortal, the difference is that his soul or whatever you want to call it, isn't killed along with his body because of the Horcruxes. Something that doesn't matter here, Voldemort doesn't have the option to come back if he is killed, and if he did it would take him so long that it would count as a KO.

Wow I've missed a lot since my last post yesterday. And yet.... it seems like I've missed nothing at all eh quan?

Ok it's debunk time:
1. Quan believes Imhotep's immortality is attached to his soul, and once his soul is taken away he is mortal.
2. Quan believes Voldemort can remove Imhotep's soul via Killing Curse
3. Quan believes once said soul is removed another Killing Curse will end it

Here's the problem tho:
1.We see a what a soul looks like in The Mummy franchise and it looks nothing like the “ghost” we see when Imhotep’s power is taken. In the first film he tried to bring back his gf and her soul looked like a purple oily wraith. It looked that way upon leaving her body too. It looks that way in part 2 as well. Imhotep’s "soul" on the other hand looked like his ghost as I said earlier. This shows us that what we saw was no intended to be a soul at all.

And that’s not even taking into account that in this franchise when you are absent a soul you are dead. We see his gf stab herself and die, then we see her soul return and she comes back to life right away, and when it leaves she’s dead again. So her having a soul took president over her having mortal injuries. Then in part 2 we see her “descendant” give up her life/soul to allow Anck Su Namun's soul access. She also seemed to die for a few moments before the new soul entered her body. This clearly shows us that had Imhotep’s soul actually been taken then he would have been dead, not still trying to kill Rick.

2. When has the Killing Curse ever been shown to take away a soul? Or destroy a soul? Or affect a soul in any way that differs from any other way a person dies? Plus in HP it’s made clear people can live without their soul so claiming the AK attacks the soul and therefore kills the person is not only baseless but contradicts what the movies clearly state. It’s not called the “Soul Destroying” Curse, or the “Soul Taking” Curse. All it does is kill a person, which can be achieved in any number of ways. It most likely just shuts off everything in your body all the way down to the cells. Unless there is a specific quote or showing of some kind of soul manipulation we cannot just assume it happens.

3. Since neither of the first 2 are proven then this one cannot be true.

Sorry for the length 😛