Imhotep vs Voldemort

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has a specific spell designed to kill which causes the soul to leave the body. I am dealing in logic and since Imhotep hasn't resisted any specific magic there's nothing to base off of that he can resist this spell or Crucio.

Voldemort wins.

Back to your No Limit Fallacy with AV that it can kill anything, no matter what. You're swinging from Voldermort's nuts and trying to force a win like you always do cos he's your favorite.

Repeat: Give me an example of Imhotep being harmed(AV harms/kills, it's not a spell designed to strip an immortal of his immortality) by magic? Give me one example of immortal-version Imhotep being killed.

Nope. You have yet to show how he could win against an immortal Imhotep.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
I used to think this too.

Quanchi's just lashing out in ange cos he's getting spanked again by everyone in here and his favorite can't win.

Originally posted by Robtard
Back to your No Limit Fallacy with AV that it can kill anything, no matter what. You're swinging from Voldermort's nuts and trying to force a win like you always do cos he's your favorite.

Repeat: Give me an example of Imhotep being harmed(AV harms/kills, it's not a spell designed to strip an immortal of his immortality) by magic? Give me one example of immortal-version Imhotep being killed.

Nope. You have yet to show how he could win against an immortal Imhotep.

Imhotep hasn't shown himself immune to any magic. Imhotep is only immune to mortal weaponry. It says so in the movie.

Imhotep loses to specific magic. Cry now.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Show us the proof or shut up.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
I used to think this too.

Originally posted by Utrigita
In some cases, marvel is such a example. However you don't go around comparing the "Magic" that the Gods from Clash of the Titans used to the one from HP do you? The magic from The Sorcerers Apprentice is imo a good example on when two types of magic are comparable. The magic used against Imhotep isn't such a example imo.

No Voldemort dies just like any other mortal, the difference is that his soul or whatever you want to call it, isn't killed along with his body because of the Horcruxes. Something that doesn't matter here, Voldemort doesn't have the option to come back if he is killed, and if he did it would take him so long that it would count as a KO.

Voldemort kills him with magic based on the fact Imhotep has shown no magical resistance. Simple, really.

Ooooor. Imhotep uses his enhanced speed/reflexes to not get hit by those spells that were slow enough that Harry could dodge them, plus his superior TK to blast Voldemort into the water, where he proceeds to drown him. Kinda like Dumbledore did on a much larger scale.

Originally posted by juggerman
Wow I've missed a lot since my last post yesterday. And yet.... it seems like I've missed nothing at all eh quan?

Ok it's debunk time:
1. Quan believes Imhotep's immortality is attached to his soul, and once his soul is taken away he is mortal.
2. Quan believes Voldemort can remove Imhotep's soul via Killing Curse
3. Quan believes once said soul is removed another Killing Curse will end it

Here's the problem tho:
1.We see a what a soul looks like in The Mummy franchise and it looks nothing like the “ghost” we see when Imhotep’s power is taken. In the first film he tried to bring back his gf and her soul looked like a purple oily wraith. It looked that way upon leaving her body too. It looks that way in part 2 as well. Imhotep’s "soul" on the other hand looked like his ghost as I said earlier. This shows us that what we saw was no intended to be a soul at all.

And that’s not even taking into account that in this franchise when you are absent a soul you are dead. We see his gf stab herself and die, then we see her soul return and she comes back to life right away, and when it leaves she’s dead again. So her having a soul took president over her having mortal injuries. Then in part 2 we see her “descendant” give up her life/soul to allow Anck Su Namun's soul access. She also seemed to die for a few moments before the new soul entered her body. This clearly shows us that had Imhotep’s soul actually been taken then he would have been dead, not still trying to kill Rick.

2. When has the Killing Curse ever been shown to take away a soul? Or destroy a soul? Or affect a soul in any way that differs from any other way a person dies? Plus in HP it’s made clear people can live without their soul so claiming the AK attacks the soul and therefore kills the person is not only baseless but contradicts what the movies clearly state. It’s not called the “Soul Destroying” Curse, or the “Soul Taking” Curse. All it does is kill a person, which can be achieved in any number of ways. It most likely just shuts off everything in your body all the way down to the cells. Unless there is a specific quote or showing of some kind of soul manipulation we cannot just assume it happens.

3. Since neither of the first 2 are proven then this one cannot be true.

Sorry for the length 😛

1. Imhotep was cursed and specific magic can take away his immortality via his soul. We see his soul clearly taken back to the underworld which renders him mortal. Her soul needed to be called back since she died but due to Imhoteps curse it was different.

2. It's function is death or killing but it's talked about in the films. When the curse rebounded Voldemort's soul latched itself onto Harry creating an unintentional Horcrux. When Voldemort hit Harry later on it killed the horcrux in Harry aka Vodemort's soul. When we see it hit Sirius we see his soul exit so I'm 100 percent correct.

3. The first 2 were correct so yeah I'm still right.

Originally posted by KingD19
Ooooor. Imhotep uses his enhanced speed/reflexes to not get hit by those spells that were slow enough that Harry could dodge them, plus his superior TK to blast Voldemort into the water, where he proceeds to drown him. Kinda like Dumbledore did on a much larger scale.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to compare them otherwise we wouldn't do any fictional match ups.

Voldemort kills him with magic based on the fact Imhotep has shown no magical resistance. Simple, really.

No I don't 🙂 What I need to compare are the characters in question, which I have done, I don't have to try and compare two sets of magic that is as different from each other as the American system is to the Scandinavian Wellfare System, because I know the differences are to big to even validate a comparison in the first place.

So instead lets look at the characters instead, their capacity and what not. What I don't get is why you stick with AK constantly, when there is a myriad of spells that Voldemort could use against Imhotep, but it's always freaking AK.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has he ever avoided an attack ? Quit arguing in a car never before seen fan boyish manner. One spell seals his fate. Crucio or Avada Kedavra.

And when has Avada Kedavra ever been stated/shown to steal someones soul and work on the undead?(Because Imhotep is undead and you can't kill an undead immortal mummy by trying to kill him) I can do this song and dance too.

And don't be asinine, if Harry Potter can dodge it, and Imhotep was jumping around like a spider monkey and skittering on the ceiling, he can dodge as well. Plus they're on a beach, he can just toss up a barrier of sand to block AK since you know, it can't penetrate anything to get to it's target behind them.

And lol at me being a Fanboy. You ride Voldemort's nose almost as hard as Rogue Jedi used to ride...well a lot of people.

Originally posted by Utrigita
No I don't 🙂 What I need to compare are the characters in question, which I have done, I don't have to try and compare two sets of magic that is as different from each other as the American system is to the Scandinavian Wellfare System, because I know the differences are to big to even validate a comparison in the first place.

So instead lets look at the characters instead, their capacity and what not. What I don't get is why you stick with AK constantly, when there is a myriad of spells that Voldemort could use against Imhotep, but it's always freaking AK.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because it kills Imhotep that doesn't mean it kills anyone. I debate based on abilities, facts, and common sense. You debate based on personal feelings.

Imhotep hasn't shown himself immune to any magic. Imhotep is only immune to mortal weaponry. It says so in the movie.

Imhotep loses to specific magic. Cry now.

You have yet to prove AV can kill an immortal form Imhotep. You debate based on Voldermort being your favorite, this is what you always do; it is known.

Repeat: Show me a scene where Imhotep is harmed by magic. Show me a scene where an immortal Imhotep dies.

Nope. Stop stealing my lines, you no talent hack.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's in character for him to do. He always used the attack in mostly every encounter. He was ruthless. Imhoteps lax approach of no one can harm me always cost him.

I think we already had that disagreement but nvm. My point is that Voldemort is a very intelligent and very accomplished Wizard, I don't personally see him relying on just AK to finish the job, but whatever.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I think we already had that disagreement but nvm. My point is that Voldemort is a very intelligent and very accomplished Wizard, I don't personally see him relying on just AK to finish the job, but whatever.

Originally posted by Robtard
You have yet to prove AV can kill an immortal form Imhotep. You debate based on Voldermort being your favorite, this is what you always do; it is known.

Repeat: Show me a scene where Imhotep is harmed by magic. Show me a scene where an immortal Imhotep dies.

Nope. Stop stealing my lines, you no talent hack.

Magic can take his soul effectively depowering him. We've never seen him resist magic only mortal weaponry. Movie clearly makes the point of there being a difference.

So now there are words and phrases I can't use. Calm down. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Avada Kedavra takes the soul from the body and kills you.

Where was it seen and stated that it takes the soul from the body? It kills you. And when you die your soul leaves your body because that's what happens in HP. But where exactly is it shown and or stated that AK takes your soul?

Originally posted by KingD19
Where was it seen and stated that it takes the soul from the body? It kills you. And when you die your soul leaves your body because that's what happens in HP. But where exactly is it shown and or stated that AK takes your soul?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've stated this multiple times. Hit Harry and destroyed /killed Horcrux inside Harry. Sirius soul leaves. Voldemort's soul initially created a Horcrux in Harry when the curse rebounded.

Sirius got hit with Avada Kedavra and fell through the Veil. The gateway between the living world and the spirit world. Other than that he would have just been dead. Like Cedric Diggory. Did we see his soul leave? Nope. Sure didn't. We only saw Sirius become a spirit because he fell through the veil. It took his physical body too.

There was no Horcux inside Harry. Harry was the Horcrux. And Voldie making an accidental Horcrux was a fluke due to the combination of his already fractured soul, Lily's protection, etc...

There's no evidence Avada Kedavra takes your soul. It kills you and your soul leaves your body after you die which happens to everyone who dies. Dumbledore. Snape. Cedric. Sirius. Everyone.

And as Imhotep is Immortal and Undead. And you can't use a killing spell on an undead being. AK being the be all end all is you wanking the the tip of Voldemort's wand yet again as you do in every thread ever of all time. You've got the nerve to call me a fanboy, hah. I bet if you met Voldemort's actor you'd blow your magical load.

Also Voldemort has no defense against the water, sand, air, or TK attacks Imhotep has at his disposal.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Avada Kedavra takes the soul from the body and kills you. We've already seen magic successfully take the soul from Imhotep. 2+2=4.

Magic can take his soul effectively depowering him. We've never seen him resist magic only mortal weaponry. Movie clearly makes the point of there being a difference.

So now there are words and phrases I can't use. Calm down. 🙂

First of all, prove that AV"takes the soul from the body and kills you". Cos the most famous AV death (Dumbledore's) didn't have this 'soul taking' you claim. He was hit; he died. Prove it or STFU already.

You're trying to force that AV is the same as the spell used in the book of Amon-Ra, which turned Imhotep mortal, it didn't kill him. So you fail still. Different spells do different things, you should know this being an HP fanatic. 😂 Does Confundus do the same thing as AV? No. Cry now.

Did magic kill him? Kill magic harm him while he was immortal? No and no. So you have two more fail arguments you continue to try and sell.

/derp