I don't understand the reason to lowball Malgus. He have struck down extremely skilled foes in single combat and survived against heavy-odds on several occasions. He have tolerated powerful explosives, lightsaber stabs and even cliff-shattering surge of energy unleashed by Satele shan. In addition, he have handled buildings collapsing around him; something that even Vader and Kas'im couldn't do under similar circumstances.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't understand the reason to lowball Malgus. He have struck down extremely skilled foes in single combat and survived against heavy-odds on several occasions. He have tolerated powerful explosives, lightsaber stabs and even cliff-shattering surge of energy unleashed by Satele shan. In addition, he have handled buildings collapsing around him; something that even Vader and Kas'im couldn't do under similar circumstances.
A regular trooper also tanked the same detonator blast that Malgus did, and he also survived Malgus' lightning. No one is low-balling him, we're just pointing out that while his feats are not weak, he is not on the top tier of Dark Lords.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
You deserve a cigar. 👆
Originally posted by Ascendancy
A regular trooper also tanked the same detonator blast that Malgus did,
As an example, this man survived 7 bullets: http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/01/13/kaysville-man-who-survived-7-bullets-credits-god-police-and-2-armed-citizens
How many people do you think would have survived in his place?
Heck, look at this example: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/09/01/afghan-soldier-took-14-5mm-bullet-to-head-and-survived/
How many people do you think would have survived in his place?
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The regular trooper in question here was wearing a Durasteel armor. This level of protection may have afforded him survival against a grenade blast.
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Prior to this grenade event, Malgus tolerated a direct SLM hit; same SLM destroyed everything else it touched during the battle.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
and he also survived Malgus' lightning.
Originally posted by Ascendancy
No one is low-balling him, we're just pointing out that while his feats are not weak, he is not on the top tier of Dark Lords.
Heck, Sidious regards Malgus as a role-model for Vader to follow.
Sidious regards Malgus as a role-model because, IIRC, Malgus did not harbor extreme ambitions to take over. He followed orders like a soldier with the Force and a lightsaber. This fits with how Sidious planned to be immortal and have the Chosen One serve him until death.
Meanwhile, he doesn't encourage Vader to be like Bane due to the fact that Bane manipulated the Sith into all dying so he could take over. He also was more powerful than any at the time. Go figure.
Bane.
Despite Malgus' superior physical strength/speed/durability (Orbalisk armor removed from the equation) and Oneness with the dark side, Bane is more clever, slightly more skilled in combat, he is more talented and possesses vastly superior telekinetic abilities, superior Force lightning, a superior array of powers, etc. I'd say he'd actually exhaust his Force reservoir before Malgus, but by that point I'd say Malgus is more in ruin than he was against Satele Shan.
SWLegend is beginning to strike me as an almost unreasonably biased supporter of SWTOR characters in Versus debates.
Originally posted by Dolos
Bane.
Originally posted by Dolos
Bane is more clever,
Originally posted by Dolos
slightly more skilled in combat,
Originally posted by Dolos
he is more talented and possesses vastly superior telekinetic abilities,
Malgus > Kas'im
If you are not getting a clue about Malgus's telekinetic abilities here then picture this:
Maul managed to drag a shuttle for a short while; Malgus, with focus, would lift that shuttle in the air and then toss it around a like a missile. Yes, Malgus is this damn strong.
Originally posted by Dolos
superior Force lightning,
Have Bane actually reduced a powerful opponent to charred smoking husk with his lightning?
Originally posted by Dolos
a superior array of powers, etc.
Originally posted by Dolos
I'd say he'd actually exhaust his Force reservoir before Malgus, but by that point I'd say Malgus is more in ruin than he was against Satele Shan.
Originally posted by Dolos
SWLegend is beginning to strike me as an almost unreasonably biased supporter of SWTOR characters in Versus debates.
I can actually point out some fellow members who indeed fit the criteria of being "unreasonably biased supporters" but I am not the one to initiate mud-slinging.
Issue is that when some people start to loose a debate or are given a reality check then they resort to accusations and mud-slinging which is unfortunate. Treat science fiction like a hobby but do respect effort of those members who attempt to bring objectivity in debates.
In the interests of fairness, I submit this to LeGeND to do with as he will, from the Book of Sith:
'Through the principles of anger, I will structure and maintain my Empire. The writings of Darth Malgus confirm that anger, combined with will, is the key to power. When anger intensifies to rage, it is unstoppable. Malgus submitted utterly to the dark Side, and doing so made him an exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have ever been duplicated.
It must be understood that anger can be funnelled through the body and released near the heart at the "vital gate." The destruction that can be unleashed by this method is immense. Thousands of enemies can be annihilated in a single act of malice.
In time, the channeled anger of the dark side will prove just as destructive as the Death Star. there will no longer be a need for costly constructions. Already, I have perfected the Force maelstrom, which creates an invulnerable energy sphere to block incoming attacks while bombarding enemies with debris and electrifying them with bolts of lightning.
This technique can be increased into a Force Storm. The churning energy mass of a Force Storm can consume everything it touches, for at its eye is pure hate. Just as a black hole devours a star, this storm can swallow armies and fold space. It may take decades to master this art, but once I have perfected it, I will be invincible. '
Theres a picture of Malgus using the Maelstrom too but I don't know how to post it.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Its Sidious writing the quote. I should have been more clear on that. Malgus is only confirmed to possess that maelstrom ability, not a full Force Storm. Malgus did form the inspiration for it though.
So maelstrom ability is Malgus's signature move? Very impressive still.
Can you explain the pictorial depiction of this power? How it looks like? Whom Malgus targeted?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_Maelstrom
An interesting attack. Not quite on the level of Bane's Force Void, but it definitely seems like something that could be maintained for a longer period of time.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Whats your point?...... Huh? It's.... just logical that Bane's speed should let him handle Malgus. Malgus isn't as fast as he is, which gives Bane a huge advantage in lightsaber combat. If Malgus can't keep up with Bane's blade, he dies. Thats it. I've already proven that Bane is amazingly fast, right now its your task to prove that Malgus can handle Bane's speed. What, do you think in a fight where a single hit cuts off limbs that it won't matter?
Well you're wrong. So I ask you: 'Remind me again what Malgus has done thats so impressive you think he can
one of the top duelists in the mythos?beat[b]draw with[/B]
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We all know how Sirak and Fohargh are >> above Zallow, Darach, Satele, and the strike team Malgus held his own against