Originally posted by 753
the explnation for his powers is quite irrelevant and they are clearly not limitless, that's just hyperbole. sentry couldnt put down wwh.
Nobody put down WWH. Sentry's showing in WWH shouldn't be a gauge for Sentry's power, but testament and a display of how the writers intended Hulk's power level to be at that time. I think many would agree that standard Thor wouldn't have done better than Sentry in the WWH.
Sentry wins a heavy majority in both scenarios
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Originally posted by 753
the comic speaks for itself really:http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Durability/WWHBlunt05WWH5.jpg.html
Shame those scans dont show the numerous punches the Sentry allowed the Hulk to have while he was laughing. Sentry used the Hulk as a tool to unleash all of his built up energy. Bob may have overestimated himself in thinking it would kill the Hulk, but actually trying to fight to win,,,,,,,,,um no.
Re: Thor vs Sentry (See details)
Originally posted by ozz81
Thor vs Sentry-SlugfestRound 1. H2H only no hammer for Thor
Round 2. Thor gets his hammer, Sentry can charge his fists
Who wins this ?
1. Most Sentrys win here
2. Depends on which Sentry
a. Sentry at his conception wins
b. unstable Sentry loses
c. WWH Sentry wins
Originally posted by tkitnaI would go to a full debate. But I got a better question.
Shame those scans dont show the numerous punches the Sentry allowed the Hulk to have while he was laughing. Sentry used the Hulk as a tool to unleash all of his built up energy. Bob may have overestimated himself in thinking it would kill the Hulk, but actually trying to fight to win,,,,,,,,,um no.
Dafuq Sentry was there for then? Hulk had every Hero left that could stop him on a leash,He was about to "kill" the Illuminati,it was about to be over.....but who was actually left? The Sentry,he himself prob knew that and that's why,at the end he came down like a Superman,😈,and decided to stop Hulk not to almost purposely lose...or act crazy....in fact he actually blasted Hulk a lot of times than people thought LOLOLOL it was not only a slugfest actually... :eek;
Whatever the case,both were arguably holding back....but yea quite obvious,Hulk for what he shown in HOTM arc,was holding back more.
Originally posted by TheHulk
I would go to a full debate. But I got a better question.Dafuq Sentry was there for then? Hulk had every Hero left that could stop him on a leash,He was about to "kill" the Illuminati,it was about to be over.....but who was actually left? The Sentry,he himself prob knew that and that's why,at the end he came down like a Superman,😈,and decided to stop Hulk not to almost purposely lose...or act crazy....in fact he actually blasted Hulk a lot of times than people thought LOLOLOL it was not only a slugfest actually... :eek;
Whatever the case,both were arguably holding back....but yea quite obvious,Hulk for what he shown in HOTM arc,was holding back more.
The Sentry was there because he was begged to go as he was the only known hero powerful enough to stop WWH. Bob was bat sh1t crazy at the time anyways and thought releasing his energy would fix that (for some reason) and he figured when he did, it would kill the Hulk (he wsnt sure the earth would make it either). He was wrong. Its also clear, Bob was trying to channel the energy through the wind tunnels so as to not destroy the area around him. Whatever the case, it was a poorly written story as usual. Regardless, if somebody was trying to win a fight, they dont let the other guy pound on them without trying to defend themselves. Hell, Sentry was asking for more. It was stupid, yet people take that as Sentry trying his hardest to win. Lol.
Yeah, they were both holding back. If the Void came out to play, the Hulk would have been killed or maimed as he was the few encounters before.
Originally posted by Raisen
Nobody put down WWH. Sentry's showing in WWH shouldn't be a gauge for Sentry's power, but testament and a display of how the writers intended Hulk's power level to be at that time. I think many would agree that standard Thor wouldn't have done better than Sentry in the WWH.Sentry wins a heavy majority in both scenarios
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Thor already faced WWH and got tossed around by a mere footstep with Hulk saying "the Avengers isn't a threat to him, sit on the sidelines and let Skaar fight".
Originally posted by carver9
Tkitna is wrong. He is forgetting in the beginning Hulk allowed Sentry to hit him as well. Then, let's not forget the fact that Hulk combos came when he got fed up with Sentry blitzing him through buildings. Sentry unleashed on Hulk like he's never done again.
No, i'm right.
Was Sentry trying to evade the Hulk punches at all?
Sentry unleashed energy, not a physical beating. He barely fought at all. He only gave him a few half assed karate chops and so forth to goad him into hitting him.
Originally posted by tkitna
No, i'm right.Was Sentry trying to evade the Hulk punches at all?
Sentry unleashed energy, not a physical beating. He barely fought at all. He only gave him a few half assed karate chops and so forth to goad him into hitting him.
It might not have been the most epic fight ever in terms of scope and collateral damage but imo it had a good emotional payoff and made sense because of Hulk and Sentrys past friendship.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
At the start of the fight Sentry was using pure physical force and speed (he was bullrushing/blitzing Hulk at speed through buildings), once Hulk got serious and started landing on he Bob he changed tactics (started unleashing his full energies) and basically went for broke but ultimately failed to take Hulk down.. Sentry himself and Greg Pak stated he was going all out but ultimately it wasn't enough, that should be a testament to the Hulk's power level but is somehow twisted into a low showing for Sentry?It might not have been the most epic fight ever in terms of scope and collateral damage but imo it had a good emotional payoff and made sense because of Hulk and Sentrys past friendship.
He was antagonizing him so he would fight. Do people not remember when the Sentry was basically laughing and having an orgasm when the Hulk was teeing off on him (in which the Sentry did nothing to defend himself from). How can people say that was Sentry at his best. He was not trying to win that fight.
Originally posted by tkitnaThis pretty much helped my case actually,cause it all proves that Sentry was seriously needed so that's why he charged in. 😂 no matter how you look at it.
The Sentry was there because he was begged to go as he was the only known hero powerful enough to stop WWH.
Originally posted by tkitnaBob was not. I mean seriously,believe it or not just because a person laughs off an attack that did physically hurt them,does not mean they are wackos. Hercules face was being pounded in by Hulk, and Herc was just standing there tanking it,despite his face was mashed into a potato by the 4th punch Hulk threw already. No one is calling Herc a wacko for that 🤨 whether or not Herc was there for diplomacy,the point still stands. Hercules was there to stop Hulk,he ignored his attacks that were eventually gonna bring him down,but no one is calling Hercules crazy. It's the same for Sentry,just because he ignored them does not mean he is crazy.....in fact in battles you barely see Sentry use his agility at all,not saying he can't,just saying you barely see him use it. The few times he used his agility was to save the doc from a bullet going through his head.
Bob was bat sh1t crazy at the time anyways and thought releasing his energy would fix that (for some reason) and he figured when he did, it would kill the Hulk (he wsnt sure the earth would make it either). He was wrong. Its also clear, Bob was trying to channel the energy through the wind tunnels so as to not destroy the area around him.
Originally posted by tkitnaHis mind was down to earth regardless,seriously i seen Hulk vs Thor,Hulk vs Hercules and Hulk vs Namor and Hulk vs Iron Man, Lol tell me why do this characters,who have way better agility than Hulk still get tagged? don't give me PIS,don't give me CIS either. As a matter of fact,Hulk even tagged Quicksilver once,not saying it brings anything to this arguement.
Whatever the case, it was a poorly written story as usual. Regardless, if somebody was trying to win a fight, they dont let the other guy pound on them without trying to defend themselves. Hell, Sentry was asking for more. It was stupid, yet people take that as Sentry trying his hardest to win. Lol.
Originally posted by tkitnaWWH is stronger than Savage Hulk thank you very much,not saying he would put up a fight,but to say Void would have treated WWH the same way he did to Savage is plain wrong. First of Hulk is supposedly more durable than Savage Hulk. Secondly, When Trauma an omega class mutant who had the ability to morph into his opponents darkest fear,for example,If WWH was still afraid of The Void,Trauma would have shapeshift into the Void,but guess what? he did not -.-. Thirdly WWH,of course with a little help,took down and pretty much tanked Avengers,X-Men,F4 and pretty much got the world on lock down,just like Void did back in the mini series.
Yeah, they were both holding back. If the Void came out to play, the Hulk would have been killed or maimed as he was the few encounters before.
Again i'm not saying WWH could have put up a fight against Void,but just saying he would not have been treated the same.
Originally posted by tkitna
He was antagonizing him so he would fight. Do people not remember when the Sentry was basically laughing and having an orgasm when the Hulk was teeing off on him (in which the Sentry did nothing to defend himself from). How can people say that was Sentry at his best. He was not trying to win that fight.
He took a huge amout of punishment, much more than Hercules who is basically Thor without the hammer and weather powers. I thought it was a good showing given the context /shrug
Originally posted by The Sorrow👆
Bob is mentally unstable at the best of times and has never been a smart fighter, often relying on raw power to get the job done. Eh? How is Sentry pinning the Hulk under a tornado of energy, and surrounding himself in his unleashed power and energy tendrils [B]not defending himself? Very few heralds, if any, could've did what Hulk did in that scene, his anger levels were off the charts and shouldn't reflect bad on Bob. It might've hurt for Sentry fans but I don't really see what more he could've done in that final fight.He took a huge amout of punishment, much more than Hercules who is basically Thor without the hammer and weather powers. I thought it was a good showing given the context /shrug [/B]
Originally posted by tkitnayou have it right man...people like to ignore his mental issue and what not to downplay his power
No, i'm right.Was Sentry trying to evade the Hulk punches at all?
Sentry unleashed energy, not a physical beating. He barely fought at all. He only gave him a few half assed karate chops and so forth to goad him into hitting him.