Originally posted by TheHulk
Bob was not. I mean seriously,believe it or not just because a person laughs off an attack that did physically hurt them,does not mean they are wackos.
You mean the guy who was afraid to even leave the house and crying to himself was in his right mind? Yeah, ok.
.in fact in battles you barely see Sentry use his agility at all,not saying he can't,just saying you barely see him use it. The few times he used his agility was to save the doc from a bullet going through his head.
He has tons of speed feats. Heck Wolverine couldnt even lay a hand on him, but yet i'm to believe that he was unable to dodge punches from the Hulk? The fact is, he didnt want to dodge them. He wanted to get hit. Hardly a good way to try to win a fight.
His mind was down to earth regardless,seriously
Lol. No it wasn't. Not even close. WWH got the whiney Bob, not the top of his game Bob.
i seen Hulk vs Thor,Hulk vs Hercules and Hulk vs Namor and Hulk vs Iron Man, Lol tell me why do this characters,who have way better agility than Hulk still get tagged? don't give me PIS,don't give me CIS either. As a matter of fact,Hulk even tagged Quicksilver once,not saying it brings anything to this arguement.
For the sake of the story. Seriously, Thor, Herc, Namor, and Iron Man arent great examples of characters with agility feats. Your right. The Hulk tagging Quicksilver in the 70's brings nothing to your argument.
WWH is stronger than Savage Hulk thank you very much,not saying he would put up a fight,but to say Void would have treated WWH the same way he did to Savage is plain wrong. First of Hulk is supposedly more durable than Savage Hulk. Secondly, When Trauma an omega class mutant who had the ability to morph into his opponents darkest fear,for example,If WWH was still afraid of The Void,Trauma would have shapeshift into the Void,but guess what? he did not -.-. Thirdly WWH,of course with a little help,took down and pretty much tanked Avengers,X-Men,F4 and pretty much got the world on lock down,just like Void did back in the mini series.Again i'm not saying WWH could have put up a fight against Void,but just saying he would not have been treated the same.
As long as you agree that he would not have put up a fight is good enough here.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
How is Sentry pinning the Hulk under a tornado of energy, and surrounding himself in his unleashed power and energy tendrils [B]not defending himself? Very few heralds, if any, could've did what Hulk did in that scene, his anger levels were off the charts and shouldn't reflect bad on Bob. It might've hurt for Sentry fans but I don't really see what more he could've done in that final fight.[/b]
Lol. He could have moved when the Hulk was punching him and maybe not beg for more physical punishment. That would have been a start. Also, are you really indicating that when the Sentry had the Hulk suspended in mid air and was focusing on emitting the energy through wind tunnels that he was actually defending himself? I dont know what to say. Really, thats just mind boggling that you think that way.
He took a huge amout of punishment, much more than Hercules who is basically Thor without the hammer and weather powers. I thought it was a good showing given the context /shrug
After the fight Bob had with Genis and the Collective, I thought it was a horrible showing. Pak really out did himself with that one.
Originally posted by tkitnaAre you saying a man cannot cry under pressure,when literally the fate of the world rest on him? Yes they are super heroes but they still can crack under heavy pressure and yes i admit that it did not happen before but still my point stands! and Whether phobia is a case of instability is very debatable 🤨
You mean the guy who was afraid to even leave the house and crying to himself was in his right mind? Yeah, ok.
Originally posted by tkitnaThere is a difference between Speed and Agility....read my post again..
He has tons of speed feats. Heck Wolverine couldnt even lay a hand on him, but yet i'm to believe that he was unable to dodge punches from the Hulk? The fact is, he didnt want to dodge them. He wanted to get hit. Hardly a good way to try to win a fight.
Originally posted by tkitnaTop of his game Sentry is still at best a High Herald to Low Trans,WWH is a solid Low Trans.
Lol. No it wasn't. Not even close. WWH got the whiney Bob, not the top of his game Bob.
Originally posted by tkitnaAre you seriously trying to use the old "We'll it's for the story,that is why Character X lasted this long" story?? But anyway are you trying to suggest the guys I listed aren't Agile? Sure Sentry is more agile than most of them but still. The amount of years after a feat is produced does matter at all,unless it was Ret-Conned,Contradicts stuff or 100%,undisputable,undebatable and unarguably PIS.
For the sake of the story. Seriously, Thor, Herc, Namor, and Iron Man arent great examples of characters with agility feats. Your right. The Hulk tagging Quicksilver in the 70's brings nothing to your argument.
Originally posted by tkitna😂
As long as you agree that he would not have put up a fight is good enough here.
Originally posted by SamZEDTo be fair,many accounts were made on how Sentry was like god or even more powerful(stated once at least),Seriousness though the man was afraid to do more damage....and when he decided "you know what? **** it!" He brought it to Hulk,like no one did,in that arc.
If I may way in... In a matter of seconds Bob went from crying and rockin back on forth to "I. AM. GODDD!!!" and then back to whining. Id say thats instability all right..
Lol look anyway I still vote a non holding back WWH>Non holding back Sentry.
Originally posted by tkitnathis is a joke. it was plainly stated that sentry gave it his best and failed to put down the hulk. he pummeled him, blasted him, bullrushed him and literally exhausted himself to not come out on top. that's it. there is nothing more to it.
Shame those scans dont show the numerous punches the Sentry allowed the Hulk to have while he was laughing. Sentry used the Hulk as a tool to unleash all of his built up energy. Bob may have overestimated himself in thinking it would kill the Hulk, but actually trying to fight to win,,,,,,,,,um no.
Edit: as per forum rules, void and sentry aren't intechangeable, so you'd have to show which sentry only feats show he should have pawned the wwh or thor, for that matter.
Originally posted by TheHulk
Are you saying a man cannot cry under pressure,when literally the fate of the world rest on him? Yes they are super heroes but they still can crack under heavy pressure and yes i admit that it did not happen before but still my point stands! and Whether phobia is a case of instability is very debatable 🤨
I'm saying that the Sentry is a schizophrenic. He's been written that way since his inception. Surely you know this. The Sentry in WWH ws emo Bob. He was whining and afraid to even go outside. How are you trying to justify that he was mentally stable?
There is a difference between Speed and Agility....read my post again..
Whats the point here? The Sentry has shown to be more then fast enough to be able to dodge some punches from the Hulk. I suppose he has to try though.
Are you seriously trying to use the old "We'll it's for the story,that is why Character X lasted this long" story??
Yes. Why do you think the writer had the Sentry flying off and crying when he faced the Human Torch during the Invaders/Avengers storyline? Because the story would have lasted three panels. The Sentry could have taken the entire team out by himself. Stuff like that lends to bad stories. Theres thousands of these type of examples. I'm surprised you believe everything you read. You probably think Spiderman is more powerful then Firelord too huh? Hey, it happened so it must be right.
But anyway are you trying to suggest the guys I listed aren't Agile? Sure Sentry is more agile than most of them but still.
Agile isnt the word I associate with when characters like Thor, Hercules, and Iron Man are mentioned.
The amount of years after a feat is produced does matter at all,unless it was Ret-Conned,Contradicts stuff or 100%,undisputable,undebatable and unarguably PIS.
Ok great. He hit Quicksilver but Spiderman can dodge him for days. Makes perfect sense to me.
Originally posted by 753
this is a joke. it was plainly stated that sentry gave it his best and failed to put down the hulk. he pummeled him, blasted him, bullrushed him and literally exhausted himself to not come out on top. that's it. there is nothing more to it.
If Pak was trying to show Sentry at his best in a fight where he stands there and allows his opponent to continuously punch him while doing nothing to prevent it, then he failed miserably.
Edit: as per forum rules, void and sentry aren't intechangeable, so you'd have to show which sentry only feats show he should have pawned the wwh or thor, for that matter.
Never agreed with those forums rules as I think the Sentry at his best is Void, but it is what it is. I think the fight with Genis where they were exerting enough energy and punching each other hard enough to shatter worlds in the microverse (while holding back) was a Sentry that should pawned WWH. Not the whiney Bob that was written.
Originally posted by bbrem123
sentry didnt even know how his powers work then...so wwh fight is weak for debating his powers
That makes very little sense. Bob easily wrecked Terrax, so if he didn't know how to use his powers, Terrax would have won that battle. Bob was simply up against a power above his in that fight with the Hulk. I would also like to bring up the fact that Bob defeated the Void on his own. So, for those thinking that the Void would wreck Thor, how do you think a guy that wrecked the Void would do against Thor? Just something to think on I guess?