Ultimate Nullifier Survival

Mr. M:
Do you believe Abraxas felt that the UN was the only 'thing' in the multiverse that could stop him, because the IG was non-functional at the time..?

Originally posted by operator616

i concede. well done.

Originally posted by operator616

though i must emphasize on the last point.

nullification isn't the same as destruction, if something is nullified it's
completely erased as if it never existed before, and abraxas doesn't
personify that, that part goes to oblivion, hence why i stated this
doesn't help your case here, so the sarcasm wasn't needed.

Well it's true, destruction and nullification in the literal sense are two different things.
But remember my friend these are comics, and other subtleties apply.

Abraxas' job is to destroy all creation.

But Abraxas himself is just the realization of what is happening because of Galactus' so called "death."

Big G dies, and All Reality collapses. He's like the foundation of all reality.

but ...

Instead of a boring scenario like reality just falling apart akin to a building going down,
Marvel gives us "Abraxas" who represents the act of that building falling down,
with cool affects and witty one liners.

In other words, Abraxas doesn't decide to destroy reality,
just like Abraxas can't make any real decisions,
just like Abraxas can't veer off course.

He's a Concept, just like the building analogy,
just imagine if while the building was falling
it could laugh at everyone getting crushed inside
and once it's all in bits on the floor it's had its fun/run & now serves no other purpose.

That's Abraxas.

*edit* lol, I lost myself there, as for nullification,
Abraxas wants the "Nothingness"

So, all reality collapsing must inevitably = nothingness.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mr. M:

Do you believe Abraxas felt that the UN was the only 'thing' in the
multiverse that could stop him, because the IG was non-functional at the time..?

I can't say if he ever knew about the Gems but I do know he would've got stomped by em.

The LT being incognito is easily explained
with the reasoning that he can't interrupt a Concept's purpose.

Cosmic law and whatnot.

Right, right. I understand LT not intervening. I'm just wondering if Abraxas didn't consider the infinity gauntlet as a viable tactic/power that could be used against him because at the time the gems couldn't be used in unison..? 'Cause like you said, we know the IG>>>Abraxas.

Nope, both of you nerds are wrong.

Come at me.

^^ 😂 .. luv ya pal.

Originally posted by Galan007

Right, right. I understand LT not intervening. I'm just wondering if
Abraxas didn't consider the infinity gauntlet as a viable tactic/power
that could be used against him because at the time the gems couldn't
be used in unison..? 'Cause like you said, we know the IG>>>Abraxas.

It's possible of course, but strictly comic book speaking as if Ab knew?

Absolutely, I agree, he could've said that with what you said in mind.

Spectre survived multiversal destruction by the Anti-Monitor IIRC

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1. he didn't

2. he was amped, so the spectre fighting AM doesn't count as being a feat for the spectre.

Originally posted by operator616
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1. he didn't

2. he was amped, so the spectre fighting AM doesn't count as being a feat for the spectre.

He banished the Anti-Monitor back to his universe without killing him, I'd say that's surviving....
Survive:

The Spectre
Lucifer
LT
Imperiex
Phantom Stranger

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what has banishing AM back to his universe have to do with surviving multiversal destruction? and you also missed the most important part, which is spectre was amped, heavily.

how is imperiex surviving this? he doesn't have the feats to suggest that he can.

The Presence said the Spectre could have beaten the Anti-Monitor but held back

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The Presence said the Spectre could have beaten the Anti-Monitor but held back

when was that stated? if you dont have a scan at least tell me what issue is it.

Originally posted by operator616
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what has banishing AM back to his universe have to do with surviving multiversal destruction? and you also missed the most important part, which is spectre was amped, heavily.

how is imperiex surviving this? he doesn't have the feats to suggest that he can.

I am saying he survived his fight with the Anti-Monitor. You said he did not...

Imperiex made everything in the DCU. It was shown in 2 storelines..

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1. he did survive the fight with AM but the fight didn't destroy the multiverse, thus he didn't tank a multiversal blast and there is no reason to believe that he can.

2. from what i know that's a flase claim, all that imperiex did was universal.

Originally posted by operator616
when was that stated? if you dont have a scan at least tell me what issue is it.

http://i.imgur.com/xrvAAmq.jpg