Loki vs Hellboy

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Firstly, you cannot just say that Hellboy hasn't taken on someone like Thor or Hulk because Thor and Hulk are perceived differently in your mind. Thor is a God right? Well, so is Hellboy. So, i don't want to hear people pointing out that Loki didn't need time to recover before he was able to re-gather his faculties.

I ask you...,advise me to scenarios where, Loki has displayed such, speed, strength and agility feats that, Hellboy has displayed. You retort with...,"well, he survived a beating from a Thor who wasn't trying to kill but detain him and an encounter with the, Hulk.

That's a pretty weak argument, man. I never said Loki wasn't durable. I just argue that he has nothing serious to offer a physical threat. The movies' themselves focus on the fact that, Loki is a weak and callus warrior. The focus of his strengths in, both Avengers and Thor showcased him as a plotter. Unless, Loki has some kind of mystical device no one ever takes him serious, he is just a nuisance that the heroes deal with because they're kind of responsible for his existence.

You people also seem to focus a f*ck ton on Hellboys guns. I have no idea why. Hellboys' guns' are deadly because the ammunition is tailored made to each enemies weaknesses. This ties in with his team and also his broad understanding of both paranormal entities and magical beings hellboys guns, in this match, would most likely only be used for strategy. In other words, he can have the advantage of forcing Loki to go on the defensive has he leaps to and fro...,Either way, his speed, strength and agility are unmatched here. Red hand of Doom smashes, Loki's face to ectoplasm. Oh yeah and he didn't even have to go all Dark lord and shit 😉

So far all of us who are backing Loki has provided lots of proof on Loki's strength, durability, speed, and fighting skill. As for all of you Hellboy supporters, only Robtard has taken the time and effort to come up with feats for Hellboy. So instead of simply saying stuff like "prove that Loki is stronger or faster, etc. etc.", why don't you come up with your own proof that Hellboy is stronger, faster and more agile.

I'll say it again. Loki has proven himself bullet proof against machne gun fire. Can Hellboy say the same?

Name me 1 opponent that Hellboy has faced who was as strong and as skilled as Thor. Thor is always holding back. He was holding back against IM yet damaged IM's suit even when IM was at 400%. Thor was holding back against Hulk but even then was able to hurt Hulk and block his punches. This is the same Thor that Loki fought, and although he lost in the end the mere fact that he was able to go toe to toe with Thor on his own (IM needed a 400% charge before he could do that) puts his strength level and skill level just a few notches below Thor's.

As for agility, see his first fight with Thor in the THOR movie. I'd like to see Hellboy pull of fighting moves like that.

Strength? Picked up Tony Stark with one hand and threw him 10 feet through the window. Took on multiple hits from Captain America (who showed superhuman strength) and didn't even take a step back while tanking those hits.

Fast enough reflexes to catch Hawkeye's arrows.

Now you believe Hellboy stands a chance at winning this, then fine. But debate it properly and list down feats of Hellboy that show he can match up to Loki. So far the only decent feat I've seen here is what Robtard posted on Hellboy punching that SUV.

You claim that Hellboy can punch Loki's face into ectoplasm. Loki has taken punches from Thor and a thrashing from Hulk and was still not knocked out. Prove to me that Hellboy can punch stronger than Hulk or Thor.

Originally posted by Robtard
Is this in part because he's 6'4" 525lbs, is a pretty big guy and has a good presence?

No cause hes a god

Originally posted by FrothByte
So far all of us who are backing Loki has provided lots of proof on Loki's strength, durability, speed, and fighting skill. As for all of you Hellboy supporters, only Robtard has taken the time and effort to come up with feats for Hellboy. So instead of simply saying stuff like "prove that Loki is stronger or faster, etc. etc.", why don't you come up with your own proof that Hellboy is stronger, faster and more agile.

I'll say it again. Loki has proven himself bullet proof against machne gun fire. Can Hellboy say the same?

Name me 1 opponent that Hellboy has faced who was as strong and as skilled as Thor. Thor is always holding back. He was holding back against IM yet damaged IM's suit even when IM was at 400%. Thor was holding back against Hulk but even then was able to hurt Hulk and block his punches. This is the same Thor that Loki fought, and although he lost in the end the mere fact that he was able to go toe to toe with Thor on his own (IM needed a 400% charge before he could do that) puts his strength level and skill level just a few notches below Thor's.

As for agility, see his first fight with Thor in the THOR movie. I'd like to see Hellboy pull of fighting moves like that.

Strength? Picked up Tony Stark with one hand and threw him 10 feet through the window. Took on multiple hits from Captain America (who showed superhuman strength) and didn't even take a step back while tanking those hits.

Fast enough reflexes to catch Hawkeye's arrows.

Now you believe Hellboy stands a chance at winning this, then fine. But debate it properly and list down feats of Hellboy that show he can match up to Loki. So far the only decent feat I've seen here is what Robtard posted on Hellboy punching that SUV.

You claim that Hellboy can punch Loki's face into ectoplasm. Loki has taken punches from Thor and a thrashing from Hulk and was still not knocked out. Prove to me that Hellboy can punch stronger than Hulk or Thor.

Your Points are irrefutable. Very well written I might add.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So far all of us who are backing Loki has provided lots of proof on Loki's strength, durability, speed, and fighting skill. As for all of you Hellboy supporters, only Robtard has taken the time and effort to come up with feats for Hellboy. So instead of simply saying stuff like "prove that Loki is stronger or faster, etc. etc.", why don't you come up with your own proof that Hellboy is stronger, faster and more agile.

I'll say it again. Loki has proven himself bullet proof against machne gun fire. Can Hellboy say the same?

Name me 1 opponent that Hellboy has faced who was as strong and as skilled as Thor. Thor is always holding back. He was holding back against IM yet damaged IM's suit even when IM was at 400%. Thor was holding back against Hulk but even then was able to hurt Hulk and block his punches. This is the same Thor that Loki fought, and although he lost in the end the mere fact that he was able to go toe to toe with Thor on his own (IM needed a 400% charge before he could do that) puts his strength level and skill level just a few notches below Thor's.

As for agility, see his first fight with Thor in the THOR movie. I'd like to see Hellboy pull of fighting moves like that.

Strength? Picked up Tony Stark with one hand and threw him 10 feet through the window. Took on multiple hits from Captain America (who showed superhuman strength) and didn't even take a step back while tanking those hits.

Fast enough reflexes to catch Hawkeye's arrows.

Now you believe Hellboy stands a chance at winning this, then fine. But debate it properly and list down feats of Hellboy that show he can match up to Loki. So far the only decent feat I've seen here is what Robtard posted on Hellboy punching that SUV.

You claim that Hellboy can punch Loki's face into ectoplasm. Loki has taken punches from Thor and a thrashing from Hulk and was still not knocked out. Prove to me that Hellboy can punch stronger than Hulk or Thor.

The reason i dont argue that Hellboy cant take a punch from the Hulk or Thor is because he has never fault them. That should be common sense. It's the same reason i never bring up the fact that i believe, Loki isn't skilled enough to have survived the encounters of the enemies that, Hellboy has encountered. it's just common sense.In all of your dribble you have still failed to give me an example where Loki has proven to be on the same level as Hellboys physical prowess. Show me where, Loki has displayed, Strength, speed and agility on the same level as, Hellboy..,please.

i'm waiting 🙄

Originally posted by Supra
No cause hes a god

He's actually a runt Frost Giant. But who cares about facts.

Loki clearly wins.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
The reason i dont argue that Hellboy cant take a punch from the Hulk or Thor is because he has never fault them. That should be common sense. It's the same reason i never bring up the fact that i believe, Loki isn't skilled enough to have survived the encounters of the enemies that, Hellboy has encountered. it's just common sense.In all of your dribble you have still failed to give me an example where Loki has proven to be on the same level as Hellboys physical prowess. Show me where, Loki has displayed, Strength, speed and agility on the same level as, Hellboy..,please.

i'm waiting 🙄

So in short, you still have given zero examples of feats showing why you think Hellboy is stronger, faster, or more agile.

You probably can't think of any, which is why all you can do is try to turn the argument around.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So in short, you still have given zero examples of feats showing why you think Hellboy is stronger, faster, or more agile.

You probably can't think of any, which is why all you can do is try to turn the argument around.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Show me where, Loki has displayed, Strength, speed and agility on the same level as, Hellboy..,please.

i'm waiting 🙄

He fought thor in te movie and in avengers. Fought Captain America with ease, hes bulletproof. And survived a extreme thrashing from Thor.

In all the Hellboy Movies he was always getting smacked around by monsters in pretty much every fight.

If Thor can beat Hellboy and Loki can go toe to toe with Thor, Loki<Hellboy

Hellboy has a hard time with even this minion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVHFp7y90l0

Originally posted by Robtard
He's actually a runt Frost Giant. But who cares about facts.

True however he has the powers of both Asgaurd and Yodenheim. Odin used his powerful magic to make him not look like a frost giant, but as we can see from Thor when a frost giant grabbs him it does not hurt him and he can use the Casket the same way Laufey.

This is one of the reasons why Loki is so strong cause he still has the strength and power of the frost giants mixed with powers of Magic and enchantments from Asgaurd and Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It reminds of of Robards debating. Proving nothing and yet demanding the other side continues to prove their points without addressing them.

Nope. You're totally not butthurt and aren't crying, Quanchi. Totally 😂 Not 😂 Butthurt 😂

Originally posted by Supra
True however he has the powers of both Asgaurd and Yodenheim. Odin used his powerful magic to make him not look like a frost giant, but as we can see from Thor when a frost giant grabbs him it does not hurt him and he can use the Casket the same way Laufey.

This is one of the reasons why Loki is so strong cause he still has the strength and power of the frost giants mixed with powers of Magic and enchantments from Asgaurd and Odin.

Yup, and we also need to remember that frost giants are strong enough to hurt and kill asgardians. That's why their war was so devastating on both sides. So Loki being a frost giant isn't exactly a bad thing on his part. Whether Asgardian or Frost Giant, both have superhuman strength, just that Loki was raised with Asgardian training plus whatever magic Odin put on him to make him more Asgardian.

Originally posted by Supra
True however he has the powers of both Asgaurd and Yodenheim. Odin used his powerful magic to make him not look like a frost giant, but as we can see from Thor when a frost giant grabbs him it does not hurt him and he can use the Casket the same way Laufey.

This is one of the reasons why Loki is so strong cause he still has the strength and power of the frost giants mixed with powers of Magic and enchantments from Asgaurd and Odin.

But actually, all we know is that Odin made him appear to be Asgardian, which appears to be just cosmetic and that he was trained in fighting and a few spell/tricks by Asgardians.

This whole "powers and magic and enchantments from Asgard, oh my" is little more than wankery.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yup, and we also need to remember that frost giants are strong enough to hurt and kill asgardians. That's why their war was so devastating on both sides. So Loki being a frost giant isn't exactly a bad thing on his part. Whether Asgardian or Frost Giant, both have superhuman strength, just that Loki was raised with Asgardian training plus whatever magic Odin put on him to make him more Asgardian.

Kudos!

Originally posted by Robtard
Nope. You're totally not butthurt and aren't crying, Quanchi. Totally 😂 Not 😂 Butthurt 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is how you debate. Don't get mad at me. Just relax.

Anytime you want to stop obsessing over me and post on the topic would be good. I don't mind your infantile attention, but it's not fair to the other posters who are trying to have a fun debate. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Anytime you want to stop obsessing over me and post on the topic would be good. I don't mind your infantile attention, but it's not fair to the other posters who are trying to have a fun debate. 🙂