The Silver Surfer Vs Thor

Originally posted by zopzop
Fuses molecules? How does that work exactly? Explain how that would affect a being that's not mortal......

The exact same way it affected Hulk or Superman? The simple fact that her phasing powers worked on him proves that immortality doesn't provide you in itself immunity.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm not the one ignoring what's DEPICTED on panel.

The "matter manip" side has to explain why the ground EXPLODED, why the ground was smoldering, and why glassification occurred at his feet.

Explain that to me. Because that's consistant with what happens when you heat solids like rocks/stone rapidly. Depending on the composition of the stone/rock it will explode and glassify, just explode, go molten, etc...

This is EXACTLY what occurred ON PANEL.

And Asgardians aren't human. Their physiology allows them to survive and recover from wounds that would kill mortals.

Yes you are. You literally are choosing to ignore what the characters, narration and overall comic clearly told us.

Because f*cking magic fool, who cares? Heating up the pavement would not undo the bonding/fusing of his lower half. It would have killed him most likely.

Yes they are, but Thor isn't able to recover from any type of injury either. The simple fact that Thor was conscious and not pretty much dead from being phased into the ground is in itself a crazy feat as it would kill pretty much anybody else 99% of the time.

Originally posted by zopzop
Fuses molecules? How does that work exactly? Explain how that would affect a being that's not mortal......

On panel we saw what happened, he superheated the ground and he got out. That's not matter manip, no matter how much you wish it to be.

Plus where are the other matter manip examples you said he had?

How the hell would I know?

Who's "we" you're the only one who's being dense about this. I already explained what happened. Deal with it. Your hate for Thor shouldn't get in the way of proper thinking.

Did I? He's transmuted stuff before:

transmutes the absorbing man's molecules. Oddly enough, a glassy surface appeared! Don't worry I'm sure it means nothing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The exact same way it affected Hulk or Superman? The simple fact that her phasing powers worked on him proves that immortality doesn't provide you in itself immunity.

Yes you are. You literally are choosing to ignore what the characters, narration and overall comic clearly told us.

Because f*cking magic fool, who cares? Heating up the pavement would not undo the bonding/fusing of his lower half. It would have killed him most likely.

Yes they are, but Thor isn't able to recover from any type of injury either. The simple fact that Thor was conscious and not pretty much dead from being phased into the ground is in itself a crazy feat as it would kill pretty much anybody else 99% of the time.

Saying that Thor used matter manip to escape being trapped is contradicted by what's DEPICTED ON PANEL. Look at the god damn scans. The floor explodes, the floor is smoldering, the floor is glassified. Yeah, that's matter manip alright. 🙄

Originally posted by Damborgson
How the hell would I know?

Who's "we" you're the only one who's being dense about this. I already explained what happened. Deal with it. Your hate for Thor shouldn't get in the way of proper thinking.

Did I? He's transmuted stuff before:

transmutes the absorbing man's molecules. Oddly enough, a glassy surface appeared! Don't worry I'm sure it means nothing.

Originally posted by Damborgson
How the hell would I know?

Who's "we" you're the only one who's being dense about this. I already explained what happened. Deal with it. Your hate for Thor shouldn't get in the way of proper thinking.

Did I? He's transmuted stuff before:

transmutes the absorbing man's molecules. Oddly enough, a glassy surface appeared! Don't worry I'm sure it means nothing.

Yes, he did use matter manip here. Gratz.

The ground was glassified because there was AN EXPLOSION when he transmuted AM into helium.

Originally posted by zopzop
It didn't kill Hulk did it? And he got out, no matter manip needed.

Saying that Thor used matter manip to escape being trapped is contradicted by what's DEPICTED ON PANEL. Look at the god damn scans. The floor explodes, the floor is smoldering, the floor is glassified. Yeah, that's matter manip alright. 🙄

No, but World War Hulk has one of the best healing factors and damage soaks ever. And it was his hands mostly IIRC while it was Thor's lower body.

Whatever bro, think what you want. There was an explosion that turned the ground to glass. Why you think Thor's matter manipulation can't cause that as a side effect as beyond me.

Still haven't explained how an explosion would reversing him bonding/fusing with the ground fyi.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, but World War Hulk has one of the best healing factors and damage soaks ever. And it was his hands mostly IIRC while it was Thor's lower body.

Whatever bro, think what you want. Damborg's scan already proved that the glass being there is completely irrelevant (Not that this isn't obvious to anyone who's sane).

Nice job going back into the 60-70s for that feat too. Deus Ex powers ftl.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, he did use matter manip here. Gratz.

The ground was glassified because there was AN EXPLOSION when he transmuted AM into helium.

Yes. Just like their was an explosion when he used matter manip on himself. Glad you agree.

did something happen recently

I noticed the thorbags have been coming out in force recently... 😕

Originally posted by zopzop
The glass being there was caused by the explosion when Thor transmuted AM into Helium! It's right there on panel dude.

Nice job going back into the 60-70s for that feat too. Deus Ex powers ftl.

See my edit, I want that explanation from you. Thor was bonded to the ground. There was an explosion, great, why does this mean there was nothing else at play?

Also:

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yes. Just like their was an explosion when he used matter manip on himself. Glad you agree.

Originally posted by Starscream M
did something happen recently

I noticed the thorbags have been coming out in force recently... 😕

Eat my Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Starscream M
did something happen recently

I noticed the thorbags have been coming out in force recently... 😕

They come full force
With no remorse
Deleting wack arguments
Like yours...
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Originally posted by Starscream M
did something happen recently

I noticed the thorbags have been coming out in force recently... 😕

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Originally posted by Starscream M
did something happen recently

I noticed the thorbags have been coming out in force recently... 😕

The preview had them cowering in their closets because it seemed like Hulk was lifting Mjlonir.

Well it turns out that

Spoiler:
Thor was merely calling it to him

So now they are out and about up to their usual.

Originally posted by zopzop
It has to do with the recent Hulk issue.

The preview had them cowering in their closets because it seemed like Hulk was lifting Mjlonir.

Well it turns out that

Spoiler:
Thor was merely calling it to him

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So now they are out and about up to their usual.

Lol, this guy is unbelievable. You're lucky no one has reported your ass for trolling. We Thorbags must be very merciful.

Dealing with him personally is more satisfying than having a mod telling him to shut up anyway 👆

I agree with Zopzop. I don't think Thor used matter manip there, not to say he can't because really, but it looks like he just raw doggied out of it like the Hulk did. Except Hulk hurt his hands and Thor didn't damage his cock

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I agree with Zopzop. I don't think Thor used matter manip there, not to say he can't because really, but it looks like he just raw doggied out of it like the Hulk did. Except Hulk hurt his hands and Thor didn't damage his cock

You're agreeing with the person who is ignoring what the comic shows and states?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're agreeing with the person who is ignoring what the comic shows and states?

But anyway, the feat is open to interpretation.

My interpretation is that while he was bonded to to the ground, his feat had to do with more physical (as physical as a blast gets anyway) means of getting out, than it did of matter manipulation.
Ie, powered out of being fused with the concrete

Not ruling out matter manip being at play, just from my viewpoint he powered out like Hulk did, except he isn't a baby like Hulk so he didn't get hurt

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
are you going to ask for scans now?

But anyway, the feat is open to interpretation.

My interpretation is that while he was bonded to to the ground, his feat had to do with more physical (as physical as a blast gets anyway) means of getting out, than it did of matter manipulation.
Ie, powered out of being fused with the concrete

Not ruling out matter manip being at play, just from my viewpoint he powered out like Hulk did, except he isn't a baby like Hulk so he didn't get hurt

You're ignoring what the scan actually shows and states. if the ground was only bonded to the outside of Thor's body, he wouldn't have been in pain and the cop would have been able to blast him free.