OWAW Sun-dip Superman Vs Loki AND Thor

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman isn't one-shotting Thor or Loki.

Come on.

Why couldn't he???

Now I know you're underestimating his dc at these levels.

They're too durable, and he's not at all likely to use an IMP before they could get their defences up.

Superman should win, having said that.

I don't think pc feats apply to post crisis superman, unless specifically retcon into post continuity.

Superman could dimensional hop and he has maybe like 3 to 5 showings that SUGEST he could do it via speed, however the scan presented applies to pre crisis earh one superman not post crisis superman.

Also OWAW SM had the tendency of blitzing a lot and use multi power attacks.

But I would not try to present evidence of another incarnation of superman and try to apply it to a weaker version of superman who is at best a lite PC kryptonian. IMO and I will recomend Dolos to the same as a poster and as a superman fan.

Originally posted by -Pr-
They're too durable, and he's not at all likely to use an IMP before they could get their defences up.

Not in character.

Actually, that would be within Sun-dip's parameters to do-he went and shoved War World right off the bat, unassumingly with fullspeed. IMP isn't that much more complicated an attack.

Originally posted by Dolos
Not in character.

Actually, that would be within Sun-dip's parameters to do-he went and shoved War World right off the bat, unassumingly with fullspeed. IMP isn't that much more complicated an attack.

I'm actually talking in character.

War World was a completely different scenario, and a completely different mindset.

Originally posted by Dolos
An attack that can break Soulfire Darkseid in half should be sufficient enough to break Loki and Thor in half.

The only thing you have going for you is that we don't know his full speed. And his ability to hit two of these before FTL reactions kick in. How FTL are their reactions, we know OWAW was many times FTL before the Sun-dip.

That's the extent of my argument.

And yet, Thor alone has endured attacks from Mephisto in his realm, a crazed Odin, Galactus, Glory, Silver Age Mangog, Celestials, etc.

So really, based on Thor's feats - not just Superman's, like you seem to be doing - Superman won't be able to crush him in the time needed to do so before either could react to him.

facepalm @ this thread.

Rao, what is Soulfire Darkseid's best durability feat.

I recall it was just as impressive as some of the ones Jake claims Thor has endured...yet Darkseid TANKED it. ?

Plus a sun-dipped Superman could hit a LOT harder than that.

He is surviving attacks that cut the fabric of reality to the bleed according to narration.

That a version of Superman could hit harder than that will depend on the writer IMO.

Spite. Superman oneshots both.

Superman wins if they fight in character. However, I can see Team 2 winning if say, they do some unconventional attacks. Still I have my doubts on that, so Superman wins

1. The showing on page 2 or so of Superman racing after Supergirl is pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths (COIE). It was in DC Comics Presents and was her last appearance before COIE, if memory serves.
It is NOT post-Crisis, in any event.

2. Superman did not reach the Source Wall using his own power.
He used a Boom Tube. Presumably he used the same Boom Tube that Big Barda allowed his group to use to get to and from Apokolips an issue or two prior (Superman/Batman #11 and 12 or thereabouts).

Note the signature of that very device in the following image:

Superman didn't have the mother box with him which always mkes it presence known in the vicinity of Darkseid by its "ping-ping" noise.

Supes. 😮‍💨

Superman has flown to the source wall under his own power before, iirc, so it's not like he can't do it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has flown to the source wall under his own power before, iirc, so it's not like he can't do it.

Maybe not, maybe so.

But I've never seen it.

And you don't recall.

Superman/Batman #13 isn't an instance of it at any rate.

Besides, if we're talking dimensional warping/hopping/travel, Thor has far more intrinsic ability to perform such a thing than Kal-el, Our Worlds at War version or no, sundip or no.

Who says I don't recall?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Who says I don't recall?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has flown to the source wall under his own power before, iirc, so it's not like he can't do it.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider

Yes, as in "If I recall correctly", which means I remember it happening, but will need to check issues to verify it.

Long as I got you here, one question, for I was actually interested to see what result you were thinking of ...

That OWAW Superman Trion Jug, WBH Hulk thread you just closed for spite. Which one did you think was overpowered compared to the other two and why? 'Cause if your answer is "OWAW Superman is overpowered compared to the other 2", well, that tells me anyone arguing for Thor and Loki here has a VERY tough order to fill in ...