Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhat power levels do Angels operate on ? Are they all equal in fiction ? Do we ignore Gandalf's portrayal from the films and scream Angels. Get a clue and an actual point. Impressive angels do not rely on pine cones while they hide up on trees from orcs. What an embarrassingly awful angel.
No he wouldn't.. Gandalf is the equivalent of an angel.. His might is vastly superior to Dumbledore. Gandalf had cuffs on because of higher ups so to speak... but make no mistake.. in a forum setting with no restraint... Gandalf crushes D with a gesture
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Originally posted by That Lotr Fan
Not usually, I will accept defeat, for example in a straight up one-on-one Dumbledore would beat Gandalf as he has more versatile magic. In the same vein, if they didn't realise its power then the basilisk would kick ass. But once they worked it out I don't think it would stand a chance, as we see in the films it can clearly be harmed by weapons.
Yeah, no, Dumbledore ain't defeating a guy who was able to temporarily hold off a guy who was able to level a massive tower as a casual extension of his power. Then I think Gandalf also demonstrated some kind of teleportation/flash stepping in DoS
To say nothing of outclassing Dumbeldore physically by a considerable margain
Originally posted by StealthRangerA severely worn down tower. Did you see what happened to Sauron in this film ? Let's just say he was not impressive at all.
Yeah, no, Dumbledore ain't defeating a guy who was able to temporarily hold off a guy who was able to level a massive tower as a casual extension of his power. Then I think Gandalf also demonstrated some kind of teleportation/flash stepping in DoSTo say nothing of outclassing Dumbeldore physically by a considerable margain
Gandalf was scared shirtless of the bear changer in humiliating fashion.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
A severely worn down tower. Did you see what happened to Sauron in this film ? Let's just say he was not impressive at all.Gandalf was scared shirtless of the bear changer in humiliating fashion.
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Dol Guldur was actually in fairly good condition, that 'ruined fortress' thing was just illusionary shit
From what I heard he was beat by Galadriel, who in the film had a feat of causing a shockwave/earthquake that extended miles from the fortress and some cloud splitting, that level of energy is way above Voldemort and the HPverse. Context
No, he wanted to keep his friends safe from the skin changer, because that thing would be able to kill them, and it's not like Gandalf wanted to kill it
Originally posted by quanchi112
You cannot even grasp the point of the thread. Why am I not surprised ?
I put forward a reasonable way for the Lotr army to deal with the basilisk thus allowing them to send out the army of the dead. I could have pointed out that all they really have to do is look down and swing their swords while walking forwards as that would avoid petrification and no one else can hurt them as far as I remember. But instead I gave a well reasoned argument that they would use the Orc war machines to kill it then send the dead out.
So I repeat how did I fail to grasp the point of the thread?
Originally posted by StealthRangerNo, it was not. We see how easily Gandalf brought it down.
Dol Guldur was actually in fairly good condition, that 'ruined fortress' thing was just illusionary shitFrom what I heard he was beat by Galadriel, who in the film had a feat of causing a shockwave/earthquake that extended miles from the fortress and some cloud splitting, that level of energy is way above Voldemort and the HPverse. Context
No, he wanted to keep his friends safe from the skin changer, because that thing would be able to kill them, and it's not like Gandalf wanted to kill it
False, as wizards can create shields than can completely disintegrate bodies and withstand hundreds of blasts.
He was afraud the bear man would kill him and his friends. Rewatch the scene. If he was more powerful than the bear man quit acting like a ***** around him.
Gandalf was weak and scared.
Originally posted by ReflassshhCompletely untrue. Hp wizards is far more powerful and versatile. Most of the armies of Lotr would be fodder to the spells of a hp wizard.
Lotr has the more powerful people and the numbers.When you have to debate using the basilisk as a cheap mean to win it means admittedly or not, you know im right.
Basilisk is a creature Tom Riddle had power over so deal with it. I am not using death.
Originally posted by That Lotr FanThis is not a versus army debate. This is a which universe has more power debate. Which universe wields more power ? You failed to comprehend the point of the thread, dumb guy.
How have I failed to grasp the point of the thread?I put forward a reasonable way for the Lotr army to deal with the basilisk thus allowing them to send out the army of the dead. I could have pointed out that all they really have to do is look down and swing their swords while walking forwards as that would avoid petrification and no one else can hurt them as far as I remember. But instead I gave a well reasoned argument that they would use the Orc war machines to kill it then send the dead out.
So I repeat how did I fail to grasp the point of the thread?
Originally posted by quanchi112More versatile? Maybe. More powerful? No.
Completely untrue. Hp wizards is far more powerful and versatile. Most of the armies of Lotr would be fodder to the spells of a hp wizard.Basilisk is a creature Tom Riddle had power over so deal with it. I am not using death.
I have yet to see a wizard killing something similar to one of lotr giants.
So? A kid with a sword killed it, don't see why a giant/army/legolas would have problem stomping it and screwing tom just for laughs.
Originally posted by ReflassshhBased on feats absolutely. Greater feats of destruction, one shot death spells, greater magic in general. Versatility is not a maybe it is a fact there are a lot more spells in Potter than the shit they come up for the Lotr films. Quit being so ignorant or else kindly back the **** down to me.
More versatile? Maybe. More powerful? No.
And most wizards would be fodder to hundreds of arroes flying among other thingsI have yet to see a wizard killing something similar to one of lotr giants.
So? A kid with a sword killed it, don't see why a giant/army/legolas would have problem stomping it and screwing tom just for laughs.
Basilisk and Nagini.
If you want to ignore the phoenix blinding it and the sword of Gryffindor destroying it. You can't run from the context, boy. Try as you may I'll never let you fanboys out of my grasp.
Flight, tk, massive area of effect spells that would decimate the elves. We also see a wizard easily dismiss an arrow. Hundreds of wizards stomp these weaklings who need aid against orcs who go down in scores in massive battles.
Well...WatchMojo put Dumbledore against Gandalf. Gandalf won 4:1, but the only category Dumbledore took was the 'flashiest magic' category. Ironically, Gandalf only beats Dumbledore in badassery when he's NOT using magic. Gandalf kicks a LOT of ass with Glamdring and his staff used as melee weapons.
But...to get the scope of power of the universes, look at the Silmarillion. Put Voldemort up against Sauron, and pity poor Voldemort. Put Voldemort up against Melkor, and it's that much more of a curbstomp. Voldemort couldn't take a Balrog either. Nor could he take the Witch King of Angmar (Though it'd be interesting to see if Bellatrix could. 'No man can slay me' is still in effect, after all)
Originally posted by Angelalex242Books are not allowed and I saw that. Ridicukous and not really based on the evidence. Dumbledore is more powerful, more versatile, and wiser.
Well...WatchMojo put Dumbledore against Gandalf. Gandalf won 4:1, but the only category Dumbledore took was the 'flashiest magic' category. Ironically, Gandalf only beats Dumbledore in badassery when he's NOT using magic. Gandalf kicks a LOT of ass with Glamdring and his staff used as melee weapons.But...to get the scope of power of the universes, look at the Silmarillion. Put Voldemort up against Sauron, and pity poor Voldemort. Put Voldemort up against Melkor, and it's that much more of a curbstomp. Voldemort couldn't take a Balrog either. Nor could he take the Witch King of Angmar (Though it'd be interesting to see if Bellatrix could. 'No man can slay me' is still in effect, after all)
Originally posted by quanchi112Will you ever stop being wrong?
Based on feats absolutely. Greater feats of destruction, one shot death spells, greater magic in general. Versatility is not a maybe it is a fact there are a lot more spells in Potter than the shit they come up for the Lotr films. Quit being so ignorant or else kindly back the **** down to me.Basilisk and Nagini.
If you want to ignore the phoenix blinding it and the sword of Gryffindor destroying it. You can't run from the context, boy. Try as you may I'll never let you fanboys out of my grasp.
Flight, tk, massive area of effect spells that would decimate the elves. We also see a wizard easily dismiss an arrow. Hundreds of wizards stomp these weaklings who need aid against orcs who go down in scores in massive battles.
In character just a few wizards will use one-shot kill spells.
Doesn't matter since the fenix wasn't bigger than a chicken. Giants>>>>>> Chickens and a sword.
Massive area effects? Such as??????
They cannot defend themselves against hundreds of arrow flying to them, prove they can or accept my victory.
Originally posted by ReflassshhIronic post coming from a doofus such as yoursel.
Will you ever stop being wrong?In character just a few wizards will use one-shot kill spells.
Doesn't matter since the fenix wasn't bigger than a chicken. Giants>>>>>> Chickens and a sword.
Massive area effects? Such as??????
They cannot defend themselves against hundreds of arrow flying to them, prove they can or accept my victory.
In character many are killed. We see other nameless wizards using Avada Kedavra as well. This isn't about a gigantic battle this is about which universe has more power. You still don't get it so one wizard using the kill curse makes it fair game.
Phoenix is not a chicken and does increase Harry's chances since the basilisk was blind. You ignored the context because you're biased.
Fiendfyre. 😆 Did you even watch the films you ignoramus.
They can control the arrows through tk or fly above them. One wizard punked centaurs until a giant got involved and got her focus off.
Fiendfyre kills them where they stand. They can also aprate, erect giant shields that can withstand hundreds/thousands of wizard bolts which are more powerful than arrows which bounce off stone.
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Originally posted by quanchi112Throwing insults on a third reply? Looks like holidays have you stressed Chiquan 😂
Ironic post coming from a doofus such as yoursel.In character many are killed. We see other nameless wizards using Avada Kedavra as well. This isn't about a gigantic battle this is about which universe has more power. You still don't get it so one wizard using the kill curse makes it fair game.
Phoenix is not a chicken and does increase Harry's chances since the basilisk was blind. You ignored the context because you're biased.
Fiendfyre. 😆 Did you even watch the films you ignoramus.
They can control the arrows through tk or fly above them. One wizard punked centaurs until a giant got involved and got her focus off.
Fiendfyre kills them where they stand. They can also aprate, erect giant shields that can withstand hundreds/thousands of wizard bolts which are more powerful than arrows which bounce off stone.
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If they don't use avada kedavra in character you can't assume they would or should just because you need it. That's desperate.
Like I said, a glorified chicken. An Stone giant would step on it and tom by accident, killing them pathetically.
They have to either defend or attack, so they either have a shield on or try to attack and get an arrow to the face.
Show me the wizards having something to put Lotr's giants down. If you can't then we will be done 🙂